Any Other SP's Feel The Same Way?

[GiGiStarr]

So I've been working for about 2 months now collectively and I find I get men asking me to lower my rates, sometimes they use the excuse that someone else is cheaper, does this not offend you? Or am I taking it too seriously?
I mean when you walk into a store to buy say designer jeans you don't walk up to the cashier and say 'oh well you know that's a high price how about we lower it to ----- ' you either pay it or yearn for it and start saving your pennies. I feel like we should be treated the same way, don't you?
For me the money is a fixed price being its a business I'm trying to run I'm not about making the most I can I'm about giving an experience, if a man can't afford it I simply tell him to save up someone else will text who can afford it, it makes it an exclusive thing as well (the difference between those who shop at winners and those who shop at GUCCI)
I honestly feel that Im giving up something that to me is very personal, not to say I don't offer days with specials for all those on a tight budget, but I feel they should look for those special days rather than try to Bargain and barter with me for a different rate on a normal day.

Thoughts?!?

 

[Ridgeman08]

Thoughts?!?

Simple... First, don't take it personally. Some guy are just douchebags... and, whenever they try that tactic that so and so is cheaper, tell them that you have no control over other SP's rates, and if they'd rather, to book with them, then.

Negotiating rates is SO disrespectful.

 

[VIPhunter]

So I've been working for about 2 months now collectively and I find I get men asking me to lower my rates, sometimes they use the excuse that someone else is cheaper, does this not offend you? Or am I taking it too seriously?
I mean when you walk into a store to buy say designer jeans you don't walk up to the cashier and say 'oh well you know that's a high price how about we lower it to ----- ' you either pay it or yearn for it and start saving your pennies. I feel like we should be treated the same way, don't you?
For me the money is a fixed price being its a business I'm trying to run I'm not about making the most I can I'm about giving an experience, if a man can't afford it I simply tell him to save up someone else will text who can afford it, it makes it an exclusive thing as well (the difference between those who shop at winners and those who shop at GUCCI)
I honestly feel that Im giving up something that to me is very personal, not to say I don't offer days with specials for all those on a tight budget, but I feel they should look for those special days rather than try to Bargain and barter with me for a different rate on a normal day.

Thoughts?!?

When you negotiate with a guy to do your roof, or remodel your bathroom, do you take the quote and pay it, without asking for a discount?

Hard goods like a pair of jeans have a more or less set cost. Labour is almost always negotiable.

 

[DanJ]

Yeah, don't take it personal. We are in a negotiating society. You might not try to talk someone down on a pair of jeans, but you do in getting a room painted, for example. The willingness of some groups of professional services providers to negotiate rates while others don't is simply the ability of those groups to show their services should not be discounted. If you call a lawyer who is 250/hour and offer 200, he'll likely decline because that lawyer probably has no shortage of work. If you are getting the amount of work you want to get at your rates, you should have no problem to simply decline the offer and move on.

 

[IM469]

Negotiating rates is SO disrespectful.

Bullshit. If a guy believes he is offering a fair price for services offered - let him. Some may accept - others won't. I don't know of many services which aren't open to some form of negotiation. I would suggest the guy has more balls than someone who just cowers in fear of hurting feelings. [For the record - I don't negotiate simply because I'm too lazy to bounce around deal making. If the price up front is a $1 shy of what I'm willing to pay - I just move on.]

 

[Mr Bret]

The clerk in most retail stores do not normally have the authority to change prices, so your analogy doesn't really work.
Most self employed people in any service industry have the right to charge whatever they want. That includes you.
Personally, I have more respect for a SP who sticks to her guns and doesn't negotiate. I have even more respect for an SP who, after a few sessions with a repeat customer shows some kind of customer appreciation. It could be dollar related or something else.
Just some food for thought.

 

[TRossi]

When you negotiate with a guy to do your roof, or remodel your bathroom, do you take the quote and pay it, without asking for a discount?

Hard goods like a pair of jeans have a more or less set cost. Labour is almost always negotiable.

You may want someone like Nate Berkus or Candice Olson to design and remodel your bathroom, but if you can't afford them, then you find someone else whom you can afford.

We are in a negotiating society.

I don't know of many services which aren't open to some form of negotiation. I would suggest the guy has more balls than someone who just cowers in fear of hurting feelings.

Some things - like spending time with an SP - should NOT be negotiable. Having 'more balls' doesn't make it the right thing to do.

 

[IM469]

Some things - like spending time with an SP - should NOT be negotiable. Having 'more balls' doesn't make it the right thing to do.

Doesn't make it wrong - it just makes it more likely that wild suppositions don't fly around unchallenged.

Let's take a real plausible case where a young uneducated mother makes a decision to offer her services as an SP to feed her child and sets the rate at $1,500 per 30 minute session. TRossi, Ridgeman08 among others have no intention of contacting her because they refuse to provide crucial knowledge of what the market will bear. With no phone calls coming in - she is now starving and it a fit of extreme hunger - eats her baby........ OR .......
BB Balls calls her and asks her if she would consider $150 for 30 minutes which is more in line with what he would pay. Our young SP realizes that her initial market valuation had a decimal placed wrong. She changes her rate and becomes extremely successful. In 6 months she bought a house for her baby, a new sports car and a second home on the Riviera.... all thanks to BB Balls.

Negotiation is a path for success because it keeps both sides of the equation balanced and saves baby's lives.

The defense rests !

 

[IM469]

I do get pissed when I see a sp and she up sells every service on the menu, now that's disrespectful!

+ 1

 

[mrsCALoki]

So I've been working for about 2 months now .........
Thoughts?!?

Oh my oh my. No one warned you?

Most men here are bargain hunters. Think about people who go to stereo review boards? They shop around looking for a deal. Same with most men here.

It seems that most men seeing the "lower" cost providers (under $300) want Prime Rib and Chambertin wine and pay hamburger and beer rates.

You need to decide if you want to see adults with a bit of class or boys on a budget (regardless of age).

Now the bad news. If you mention things like that in open forum you will get tagged as a bitch and make enemies. Most SPs think that the clients have to feel good about the entire thing or you get less customers.

Sadly they are right. My advice is delete the thread before the women haters decide you are a terrible person

Best of luck.


Oh FYI a handful of men adore feisty girls and are able to afford us

 

[evilbaga]

Ummm... how is it disrespectful?

Looking at it as any other service/good makes more sense.
For starters, some clients might be more hygienic, some better looking (so the sex isn't a one way street), might arrive on time, more fun to be around etc etc more than other clients. Why would such clients NOT get a rate, especially if they become repeat business?

Its really up to you ofc... but the idea that what the clients are asking for is wrong is just not realistic.

 

[Buick Mackane]

Simple... First, don't take it personally.

Someone telling you that you're overvaluing yourself is offensive and very personal.

It's best not to engage with these guys or others who want to cut down your self-esteem.

GiGiStarr, I've heard the same thing from other escorts - it's a problem common to all of them regardless of their price.

 

[mrsCALoki]

Oh I almost forgot, some how they assume that when you "negotiate" the price down of a service you get the same service provided. LOL

same old story, you do not always get what you paid for, but you almost never get what you did not pay for.

 

[Dmac1701x]

Don't show your frustration with the hagglers and politely move on. I feel that attempts at negotiation are disrespectful. If the fee is too high just don't book. There are a lot of options. This is not a typical service and I understand how attempts to haggle could be offensive but you have to not show it. As regards mrs. C's assertion that people will tag you as "bitchy", some may, but most will respect your position.

Your body= your menu and your rates.

I hope I get the chance to meet you in the future!

 

[Malika Fantasy]

It's common regarding the price you are charging.
You could charge 80/hh people will try to have 60/hh (cause come on it's only 20$!)
or you could charge 1k/2hr and will have people doing the same.

I found it also depend where you advertise.
BP is way worst for those trying to bargain compare to Terb.

 

[GiGiStarr]

Now the bad news. If you mention things like that in open forum you will get tagged as a bitch and make enemies. Most SPs think that the clients have to feel good about the entire thing or you get less customers.

Sadly they are right. My advice is delete the thread before the women haters decide you are a terrible person

Best of luck.


Oh FYI a handful of men adore feisty girls and are able to afford us [/QUOTE]


I doubt I will be tagged as a bitch im a very nice person just struggling to wrap my head around this concept. I have several reviews ALL of them are positive with happy satisfied men, I do however find it disheartening that regardless my great reviews (thanks to all who have posted them I am very happy I have made you a happy camper) and my attractive looks I still get LOWBLLERS who ask for 60 half hours (as an example), I don't personally feel 120 is an above average price and I don't loose business rejecting the ones who ask for a discount which is why I'm comfortable doing so BUT it does feel like a blow to the face when a man regardless the reviews or pictures asks for such an extremely low price, almost as if saying 'I don't think your worth full price plz discount for me'

I can understand asking for a bargain price for general labour, however I do feel its your way of saying... Nah I don't think your worth that I think your worth this.....
Ouch!

 

[thesun]

So I've been working for about 2 months now collectively and I find I get men asking me to lower my rates, sometimes they use the excuse that someone else is cheaper, does this not offend you? Or am I taking it too seriously?
I mean when you walk into a store to buy say designer jeans you don't walk up to the cashier and say 'oh well you know that's a high price how about we lower it to ----- ' you either pay it or yearn for it and start saving your pennies. I feel like we should be treated the same way, don't you?
For me the money is a fixed price being its a business I'm trying to run I'm not about making the most I can I'm about giving an experience, if a man can't afford it I simply tell him to save up someone else will text who can afford it, it makes it an exclusive thing as well (the difference between those who shop at winners and those who shop at GUCCI)
I honestly feel that Im giving up something that to me is very personal, not to say I don't offer days with specials for all those on a tight budget, but I feel they should look for those special days rather than try to Bargain and barter with me for a different rate on a normal day.

Thoughts?!?

Perhaps you should state on your ad that your price is firm an haggling allowed. If you don't, then they'll assume or be encouraged to negotiate with you.

 

[rhuarc29]

I'm sure some people are offended an SP thinks spending an hour of her time with him is worth $250+. With the way our society is set up, where this kind of supply is low and demand is high, the suppliers can charge above the value of their services. Some people don't like that and will try to get "their money's worth". I wouldn't take offense if I were you.

Take a car dealership. Many dealerships have hourly service rates of $125/hour+. Many people blindly pay that. I know from experience that that rate is negotiable. I would do the work myself before I'll pay that rate for most services. The dealership would rather drop their rates than lose my business. You just need to have a good "feel" for what services are worth to be able to counter effectively.

I don't know about you, but $250/hour for anything seems exorbitant. Will I pay it? Sure, once in awhile. I can afford it and I'll indulge myself. But I never lose sight of the fact I'm being taken.

 

[thecuriousgeorge]

Where is ur ad?
Im interested now..as long as you dont upsell...i dont mind paying a premium...whether i not i repeat is based on if i feel ur services warranted ur rate

 

[peter4025]

Now the bad news. If you mention things like that in open forum you will get tagged as a bitch and make enemies. Most SPs think that the clients have to feel good about the entire thing or you get less customers.

Sadly they are right. My advice is delete the thread before the women haters decide you are a terrible person

Best of luck.


Oh FYI a handful of men adore feisty girls and are able to afford us

I doubt I will be tagged as a bitch im a very nice person just struggling to wrap my head around this concept. I have several reviews ALL of them are positive with happy satisfied men, I do however find it disheartening that regardless my great reviews (thanks to all who have posted them I am very happy I have made you a happy camper) and my attractive looks I still get LOWBLLERS who ask for 60 half hours (as an example), I don't personally feel 120 is an above average price and I don't loose business rejecting the ones who ask for a discount which is why I'm comfortable doing so BUT it does feel like a blow to the face when a man regardless the reviews or pictures asks for such an extremely low price, almost as if saying 'I don't think your worth full price plz discount for me'

I can understand asking for a bargain price for general labour, however I do feel its your way of saying... Nah I don't think your worth that I think your worth this.....
Ouch![/QUOTE]

Unfortunately every type of service industry has the same problem. I own a construction co. And my labour cost is fixed. I can not lower my employees wages. You won't believe how many people try to bargain my quotes. Most of them are people with good jobs and above average earnings. (Teachers, lawyers, etc).
Just stick to your prices and politely decline your services to those asking. You'll be fine.
Please check your pm.