Obama casts doubt on Canada’s ambition to be an energy superpower

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These discounts really surprised me, the dragging of feet by President Solyndra not so much...

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Goar: Obama casts doubt on Canada’s ambition to be an energy superpower

Hopes for a quick U.S. approval of the Keystone XL pipeline fade, forcing Canada to rethink its status as an energy superpower.

Much has changed since Barack Obama threw a spanner into Stephen Harper’s plan to make Canada an energy superpower.

A year ago, the U.S. president rejected an application by TransCanada to run a massive pipeline from Alberta to Texas. Canada’s prime minister assured oilsands producers it was just a hiccup; the project would get the green light after the U.S. election.

Three months ago, Americans re-elected Obama. He still hasn’t approved the Keystone XL pipeline.

Last week he pledged to make climate change a higher priority in his second term. “The path toward sustainable energy sources will be long and difficult,” he said in his Jan. 21 inaugural speech. “But America cannot resist this transition; we must lead it.”

Two other shifts in the landscape have occurred:

The U.S. has moved a long way toward energy self-sufficiency. It produces enough natural gas to meet its own needs thanks to hydraulic fracturing (“fracking”). And it is ramping up domestic oil production, thanks to new technologies that have unlocked the “tight oil” trapped in rock formations. Americans won’t be buying nearly as much energy as Harper anticipated.

The bottleneck has already driven down the price of Alberta’s tarlike oil. It is now selling at 40-per-cent below the North American benchmark (the West Texas Intermediate price) and 50-per-cent below the global standard (Brent crude price).

Last week Premier Alison Redford warned Albertans the province faces a $6-billion budgetary shortfall because of dwindling royalty payments. Ottawa is feeling the fiscal pain, too. For two years running, Finance Minister Jim Flaherty has had to reduce his revenue projections because of lower-than-expected taxes from the oilpatch.

The bottom line is clear: Canada needs the Keystone XL pipeline more than the U.S. does.

“We’ve made it extremely easy for Obama to say no,” warns Simon Dyer, policy director of the Pembina Institute.

The Edmonton think-tank is not opposed to oilsands development, he stresses. But the rapid pace of expansion and the complete lack of federal regulation over greenhouse gas emissions are sending the wrong signal to the White House. (Alberta has regulations but they’re too weak to provide much protection.)

Dwyer places most of the blame on the prime minister. Unlike Alberta Premier Alison Redford, who is open to ideas to clean up the oilsands, Harper and his natural resources minister, Joe Oliver, are inflaming environmentalists on both sides of the border, thereby validating Canada’s reputation as a producer of “dirty oil.”

Obama is expected to wait until the state department completes its analysis of the environmental impact of the proposed pipeline in April before making a decision.

Keystone has support in the U.S. Congress. Fifty-three senators (out of 100) called for quick approval of the pipeline application last week. The House of Representatives has voted in favour of the project four times in the last two years. And Nebraska Governor Dave Heineman, mollified by TransCanada’s acquiescence to his demand that the pipeline be rerouted around an environmentally sensitive region, has dropped his opposition.

But that won’t be enough to convince Obama to give TransCanada the go-ahead.

Harper could improve the odds, Dyer says, by placing a firm cap on carbon emissions. Redford could do her part by closing Alberta’s coal-fired generators and requiring oilsands producers to adopt cleaner technologies and extraction methods.

Neither will guarantee a yes from the White House. But both would strengthen Canada’s position whatever lies ahead.


Carol Goar's column appears Monday, Wednesday and Friday.
 

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I can't see the price of oil declining in the future. Really, the only question is, do we sell it now, or do we sell it later? In a lot of ways we'll probably get a better price for it selling it later.
 

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We, or at least Alberta, still needs a way to get the oil to the people that want to buy it.
 

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I can't see the price of oil declining in the future. Really, the only question is, do we sell it now, or do we sell it later? In a lot of ways we'll probably get a better price for it selling it later.
How many jobs are dependent on that oil production? Isn't Oil Canada's largest export item (something like 25%)? Are you sure you can afford to sit on it?
 

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How many jobs are dependent on that oil production? Isn't Oil Canada's largest export item (something like 25%)? Are you sure you can afford to sit on it?
Plainly we are not going to sit on it, the question is really whether we expand production now or sometime in the future. I assume we would just continue exporting at the present rate.

Waiting until one of the big middle east producers taps out before expanding might not be such a bad idea.
 

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Plainly we are not going to sit on it, the question is really whether we expand production now or sometime in the future. I assume we would just continue exporting at the present rate.

Waiting until one of the big middle east producers taps out before expanding might not be such a bad idea.
It seems to be a big lever for growth, would seem hard to turn away from. Will getting the oil to the West coast be easier in 15 years?

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1. Ship by Rail.

2. Refine the crude into gasoline and other distillates in Alberta and get the value added that way (Mind you, big oil doesn't want to hear about such nonsense)

3. Ship via pipeline or rail to Ontario and Quebec (which currently import most of their oil from the Middle East).
 

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As the price of oil rises, yes. It will be easier to approve keystone XL at $200/bbl as well.
I don't see it, I think refinery capacity in the Gulf will be supplied by US sources....
 

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Don't worry, the oil addicted Americans will be back begging for it before you know it.
Odd that Canada's energy consumption per capita is higher than the US...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_energy_consumption_per_capita

and seems to have leveled off since the mid 80s: http://www.google.com/publicdata/ex...A&dl=en&hl=en&q=energy consumption per capita

Our Co2 emissions are also lower as a % of GDP: http://www.google.com/publicdata/ex...USA:CAN&ifdim=region&hl=en_US&dl=en&ind=false

and this is before the dramatic fall due to fracking

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It might be colder in Canada than in Florida. We might also live further apart from one another.
So your saying it's not as simple as....

Don't worry, the oil addicted Canadians will be back begging for it before you know it.
 

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Buffalo was 66° F yesterday......:eyebrows:
 

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You know, I can seriously see a time where the Americans will pay us not to ship crude oil to China.Harper is a Bush acolyte(see below).I don't believe the Democrats like him by proxy.I doubt it gets approved in the next 3 years.

http://thetyee.ca/Mediacheck/2005/11/29/HarperBush/
I wouldn't count on that.... and you'll need a way to get it there.

I think JTK has it right in his second option, you should refine it yourself, in Alberta, and ship finished product.

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I wouldn't count on that.... and you'll need a way to get it there.OTB
Simple, just tell the citizens of British Columbia that their equalization payments and that annual donation to the First Nations tribes will be paid out of the taxes gathered from the export of the oil from the "tar sands" and then cut off the current payments. Start building an west to east pipeline and I think the folks of British Columbia may see the light that without the necessary pipeline, Alberta is no longer willing to support them.
 

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I can't see the price of oil declining in the future. Really, the only question is, do we sell it now, or do we sell it later? In a lot of ways we'll probably get a better price for it selling it later.
I can see oil declining sunstantially, probably down to 60-70/bbl. People who say producers will not produce at this price have already been proven wrong. Oil sands oil is already selling at $50/bbl and they are still producing...and this oil has the highest production cost today. US oil production is rising MUCH faster then Canada's and Iraqi oil production is also soaring. Sooner or later oil will fall lower. The US does not want to share their market with Canada. Environmental regs are just the excuse to keep Canadian oil out.
 
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