Linux Killed Firefox
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I re-installed LinuxMint 14 and Firefox seems to be fine now. Since Firefox is the default browser for Linux, I did not try other browsers.
FF 18.0.1 is the default Linux browser right now.
I also install and use Chrome and Opera browsers with Linux. They all run good.....
I also install and use Chrome and Opera browsers with Linux. They all run good.....
Firefox came with Linux so I decided to stick with it for now (also had experience with it using XP). Are Chrome and Opera the same or better than FF?I also install and use Chrome and Opera browsers with Linux. They all run good.....
Chrome and Opera are faster than FF. Chrome is the fastest.
Forget to mention I also use the Tor browser on Linux but because of its settings Tor is the slowest of them all.
Forget to mention I also use the Tor browser on Linux but because of its settings Tor is the slowest of them all.
One of my friends suggest the following.
1) Install a second internal harddrive.
2) Install Linux Mint or Ubuntu in that harddrive.
3) Install FF (or Chrome or Opera).
4) No need for anti-virus.
He said that I could partition the existing harrddrive but might be better to install a second one, so the existing one for Windows and a separate new one for Linux.
I do both of the above options which both run great....
Get a SSD to be used as a boot drive for Linux and watch your PC ....SCREAM!....:thumb:
Get a SSD to be used as a boot drive for Linux and watch your PC ....SCREAM!....:thumb:
A second drive isn't a bad option. Especially if you're not experienced with partitioning drives.
Personally, I don't use any of those browsers, but I'm a Debian / KDE guy. A few things to keep in mind:
1) A big distro (Ubuntu, Debian, Kubuntu, Mint, Open Suse, Fedora, etc.) means choice. If you don't like your desktop, and can't modify it, change it. The same goes for your web browser. Space is dirt cheap, so there's no reason not to have more than one of everything if you want to.
2) Always use you distribution's package / software manager (if you aren't a developer). Always. Never just download some mystery binary. Package management is your friend.
3) Always do your updates. Always.
4) ClamAV, and it's various front ends are free for linux. There are also programs like rkhunter that hunt for rootkits. You should probably still have both, and should run them periodically if you don't run them as system services. You might even consider a firewall, if you don't really know what services you have running. Linux boxes are often attacked because they look like servers. While a given virus might not infect you that can still be passed on to others. Linux isn't magic. It just tends to be more secure by design for all of the software / packages available for a given distribution, and the target of fewer consumer oriented viruses.
As far as your initial Firefox crash goes: 'That ain't right'. It could have been crashing for any number of reasons. FOR ANY LINUX DISTRIBUTION, THE SOLUTION IS ALMOST NEVER RE-INSTALL EVERYTHING. In the case of a program like Firefox, I'd have suggested running it from a terminal / console, and seeing what the program had to say before it crashed. Try looking that up on google. Sometimes it just comes down to waiting for a newer, or switching back to an older, version of the package.
I've had systems with broken kernels, broken bootloaders, and broken init sequences, all mostly self inflicted, and all nasty, hard, problems, that I've managed to fix without re-installing. chroot and a bootable linux on a usb key are your friends.
Agreed.
If you don't want to bother learning how to partition drives, just add a second drive. With SATA drives this is very easy.
Though people calling their distribution Linux is making me very grumpy. (Well, not really THAT grumpy.)
Linux is just a kernel. A kernel is:
"In computing, the kernel is the main component of most computer operating systems; it is a bridge between applications and the actual data processing done at the hardware level. The kernel's responsibilities include managing the system's resources (the communication between hardware and software components).[1] Usually, as a basic component of an operating system, a kernel can provide the lowest-level abstraction layer for the resources (especially processors and I/O devices) that application software must control to perform its function. It typically makes these facilities available to application processes through inter-process communication mechanisms and system calls."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_(computing)
That's Linux.
What most desktop users mean when they say Linux is the linux kernel, with a gnu userland and libraries, the x-windows system, and a desktop environment with a collection of applications. That's wordy as all hell.
Yes, you should specify you're using Linux, or GNU/Linux if you're that pedantic, but the best way to do that is <DISTRIBUTION><optional 'Linux' or 'GNU/LINUX><VERSION><optional ARCHITECTURE-BITS>. IE- Debian Testing, or Debian GNU/Linux, Testing, x86-64.
Linux really didn't eat your Firefox. It's could have been a simple bug in the code of Firefox, it could have been a simple bug in the code of a patch applied to Firefox by the packager, it could have been a bug in a library (or their patches) that Firefox used (down to the C / C++ libraries), it could have been a bug in the compiler, or in how any of those various things that were compiled. Your bug probably had nothing at all to do with the linux kernel.
Yes, I know, pedantic, but the language actually matters to people that know. Calling it 'Linux' can run the gamut from a router, to set top boxes, to android devices, to Gnome or KDE desktops, to systems that use .rpm or .deb, to any number of other things not at all related to your problem (and really don't help narrow it down).
(Well, not really THAT grumpy.)Linux is just a kernel. A kernel is:
"In computing, the kernel is the main component of most computer operating systems; it is a bridge between applications and the actual data processing done at the hardware level. The kernel's responsibilities include managing the system's resources (the communication between hardware and software components).[1] Usually, as a basic component of an operating system, a kernel can provide the lowest-level abstraction layer for the resources (especially processors and I/O devices) that application software must control to perform its function. It typically makes these facilities available to application processes through inter-process communication mechanisms and system calls."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_(computing)
That's Linux.
What most desktop users mean when they say Linux is the linux kernel, with a gnu userland and libraries, the x-windows system, and a desktop environment with a collection of applications. That's wordy as all hell.
Yes, you should specify you're using Linux, or GNU/Linux if you're that pedantic, but the best way to do that is <DISTRIBUTION><optional 'Linux' or 'GNU/LINUX><VERSION><optional ARCHITECTURE-BITS>. IE- Debian Testing, or Debian GNU/Linux, Testing, x86-64.
Linux really didn't eat your Firefox. It's could have been a simple bug in the code of Firefox, it could have been a simple bug in the code of a patch applied to Firefox by the packager, it could have been a bug in a library (or their patches) that Firefox used (down to the C / C++ libraries), it could have been a bug in the compiler, or in how any of those various things that were compiled. Your bug probably had nothing at all to do with the linux kernel.
Yes, I know, pedantic, but the language actually matters to people that know. Calling it 'Linux' can run the gamut from a router, to set top boxes, to android devices, to Gnome or KDE desktops, to systems that use .rpm or .deb, to any number of other things not at all related to your problem (and really don't help narrow it down).
M$, Mac, Linux and PC stuff confuses lots of peeps.....
Someone in another thread thought FF browser was an OS......:eyebrows:
Someone in another thread thought FF browser was an OS......:eyebrows:
Actually, it is: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefoxos/
There is no such thing as a default browser for Linux, BTW.
If you really want choice over your GUI in GNU/Linux then I would suggest Fedora:
http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/01/federa-linux-interface/
When I installed LinuxMint 14, Firefox 16 was automatically installed but it then crashed. Anyway, I re-installed LinuxMint 14 and Firefox is fine so far.
Uggh, why?
F18, and the updater seem to be 'uugh', it uses .rpm (which is a dead series of forks and patches), it actually tries to use Gnome 3, it's testing distribution rather notoriously eats kittens, and it's developer community has a lot of the problems Debian had 10 years ago.I'd run Fedora if I had insured and licensed Red Hat systems, otherwise...
I'm a Debian dinosaur. I wouldn't recommend that much default 'vanilla', 'choice', and relative lack of hand holding for any newbie. (Though, if you have any experience, I'd suggest Debian.) With that being said, I would suggest Ubuntu, some kin of Ubuntu like Kubuntu, or some cousin of Ubuntu like Mint. It doesn't matter if you like gtk/gnome or qt/kde, so long as a system is easy to install, easy to update, has a decent community, and dumps a user into a desktop that is humanly usable without a desire for suicide. Stock Gnome 3 and Unity both tend to be rage inducing, and Fedora and stock Unbuntu have paid because of it.
True but each of the 100+ flavors of Linux has one and FF is the default browser for the Ubuntu family.
Surprised they use FF 16 since Ubuntu now is up to FF 18.0.1 version.
FF seems to upgrade almost weekly lately....:eyebrows:
The 'new big number every time you cough' where a point release would do, makes it hard for distros that do long term support because that can't tell when a big version is a big version.
Firefox might be the default browser for Linux Mint. There are what, 1,000s of linux distros? With anything from Firefox to Galeon to Konqueror to Web as the default browser.
There is no default linux browser.
