Teens are saying Apple is 'done'. Ha ha!!

[lovelatinas]

Apple products are over rated. They just know how to market their products as cool to have, so everyone wants them. The Blackberry playbook is actually better for web-browsing than the Ipad because of flash. Unfortunately Blackberry cannot market their products like Apple.

 

[djk]

Apple products are over rated. They just know how to market their products as cool to have, so everyone wants them.

Then why is their market share for the Mac and the iPhone not a majority?

The Blackberry playbook is actually better for web-browsing than the Ipad because of flash. Unfortunately Blackberry cannot market their products like Apple.

Android is enjoying great success and it doesn't support Adobe Mobile Flash either. Maybe the issue isn't marketing but RIM's lack of technical prowess?

 

[SirWanker]

Opposed to the neck break speed that Android phones come out? Every time someone blinks Sony, LG, HTC, Samsung, etc is releasing a newer model.

IMHO that is simply not sustainable in the long run.

 

[IM469]

Apple's market share is between 20-25%. I believe you've harped about this point. How is that a monopoly?

You missed the point on the monopoly aspect in my comments. In the Apple iPhone all your software (unless you JailBreak your iPhone) must be made through Apple. In Android we have complete freedom where were source our software. If you have only one source for your software purchases and that is a monopoly.

In case your definition of monopoly needs refreshing: 'The exclusive possession or control of the supply or trade in a commodity or service'

or a shorter version: 'Apple iPhone Apps'

 

[goodguy1977]

So far I haven't read anything that I would define as solid on why Apple is done??? It's a much more competitive market yes but so far I have the following reasons:

- Idiots follow numbers
- Apple products are overrated because everyone owns them. (A terrible thing for a consumer electronics company)

So far that's it.... ???? So tell me why is Apple done?

Goodguy

 

[onthebottom]

But let me guess, you think Amazon is a steal trading at a P/E of 3,546.38, right?

LMAO... I never realized it was that bad - 8 cents per share earnings on a $250 stock... that's nuts.

OTB

 

[onthebottom]

Apple products are over rated. They just know how to market their products as cool to have, so everyone wants them. The Blackberry playbook is actually better for web-browsing than the Ipad because of flash. Unfortunately Blackberry cannot market their products like Apple.

That's funny, even Adobe has given up on mobile flash (it's a sucky experience)....

 

[djk]

In Android we have complete freedom where were source our software.

Really? I recall you have a S3. Can you use Google Wallet without rooting on your device in Canada? My friend has a Note 2 crammed with apps from the carrier. He cannot delete those apps. Why can't he?

Here's some more examples of the complete freedom on Android:

http://techcrunch.com/2010/10/06/the-g2-will-repair-itself-on-rooting/

Some excited rooters at the XDA Dev Forum tried to root the G2 – namely to unlock the software so they can add their own programs and control the OS – only to find that there is a built-in lock in the G2 hardware that returns the handset to the stock state upon rooting.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2010/07/android-junkware.html

Remember the golden days of personal computing when you'd bring home that expensive wonder box, remove the machine from its Styrofoam swaddling, plug it in, switch it on and -- hey! What's this?

AOL? Quicken SE? A 3-D chess game with a license that expires after a few plays?

Well, customers who bought Motorola's new Droid X smart phone or Samsung's Vibrant, both of which launched Thursday, may feel a tinge of deja vu.

The Droid X comes loaded with several nonstandard applications for Google's Android, most of which cannot be removed.

http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...soft_improperly_showed_Android_code_to_expert

A protective order in the case restricts access to the Android source code, limiting the number of people who can review the code and requiring that Microsoft and Motorola "give prior written notice" to Google before showing the source code to a technical advisor. Google is to have 10 days to object.

Microsoft did not do that, Google alleged, as it moved to prevent Stevenson from testifying at the evidentiary hearing slated for later this month.

"The confidential source code improperly provided to Dr. Stevenson is highly proprietary source code that Google does not even share with its partners, such as Motorola," Google said.

http://arstechnica.com/information-...s-least-open-of-open-source-mobile-platforms/

Market research firm VisionMobile has published a report that evaluates the openness of eight major open source software projects. The study—which was partly funded by the European Union—focuses largely on open governance, inclusiveness, transparency, and ease of access to source code. To quantify relative openness, the researchers established criteria and a numerical rating system with points.

The projects that VisionMobile analyzed include Android, Eclipse, the Linux kernel, MeeGo, Firefox, Qt, Symbian (based on the governance model of the Symbian Foundation prior to the the platform's transition back to a closed model), and WebKit. They ranked these projects in an "open governance index" based on the percentage of points that they received. Google's Android mobile operating system ranked the lowest, with only 23 percent.

Man, that is definitely a perfect example of open source software. LOL.

In case your definition of monopoly needs refreshing: 'The exclusive possession or control of the supply or trade in a commodity or service'

or a shorter version: 'Apple iPhone Apps'

I'd say email is pretty much commoditized and its definitely a service. So, I can only gain access to it if I use an Apple product? Same goes for the web? FTP? SSH? XML?

I think that hard-on you have for Apple is causing all the blood to leave your brain. Why don't you spread some time reading about an actual monopoly like Standard Oil.

 

[IM469]

Really? I recall you have a S3. Can you use Google Wallet without rooting on your device in Canada? My friend has a Note 2 crammed with apps from the carrier. He cannot delete those apps. Why can't he?

You have no F**king idea what you are talking about. (Probably because unlike those of us that have actually researched and used both devices - you have to frantically search for third party info to defend your fanatical support of Apple iPhone.)

You can only get your apps from the Apple iTune store .... I can get mine from Play, Samsung stores, amazon, software web sites, on, & on & on.

If you want to break free from the app monopoly Apple has from your phone - you must Jailbreak it. Now you can get new non-Apple supported apps (e.g. good ones) but these apps will never appear in an Apple store. Not only that but Jailbreak phones are not only not supported by Apple but every new iO/S version will wipe out the Jailbreak and try to prevent the Jailbreak until patch is discovered (could take a few weeks).

In Android you can root your phone. This is a procedure that in itself is a little complicated but prevents the unsophisticated user from access to a new level of programming control over their phone. I have a rooted phone and now I can download programs that ask 'superuser' permission because they offer much more control of your phone features. So where can you get rooted programs (e.g. Titanium, Voodoo, etc) ???? From Google Play (among thousands of other sources). That's right - unlike Apple - I get even rooted programs from Google.

BTW: Google Wallet is a service not available (officially) in Canada - that's why it isn't available. (Duh) As a past Apple user this isn't surprising since Apple had lots of apps only available in certain areas. Of course Apple pulled many apps simply because the pulled apps offered better alternatives to their own crap software which why I had to Jailbreak mine. Google, BofM, etc are preparing Wallet's introduction soon and some who have found ways to install it now are using it at McDonalds, Tim Hortons, other paypass stations - so I know I will get this feature when the software is available. Sadly NFC isn't available on iPhone 5 but you can always toss it away and get a new one that includes current technology - iPhone 6 or 7 ?? LOL

You can't possibly win any argument on features or software so why not stick to figures that show the gullibilty factors among Apple purchases ?

 

[benstt]

That's funny, even Adobe has given up on mobile flash (it's a sucky experience)....

Yeah, but the internet hasn't given up on it quite yet. The flash support is actually handy to have, at least for now - you get a full web experience, not a mobile version.

 

[pakboy26]

But let me guess, you think Amazon is a steal trading at a P/E of 3,546.38, right?

The problem with the interweb is you can't tell somebody's tone and if they're being rhetorical or not.
So with that in mind, to answer your question, which seems to be rhetorical lol:

Would I go long Amazon at these prices? No.
Would I sell Amazon if I owned it at these prices? Yes

Would I short Amazon at these prices? Even though it's so fking tempting my answer is No because of what Keynes writes: “Markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.”

 

[mtm2011]

Apple isn't part of the free market? Huh?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/free+market?s=t



Apple's market share is between 20-25%. I believe you've harped about this point. How is that a monopoly? And I don't remember hearing any government ramming Apple products down anyone's throat.

The "Free" market is a myth anyways. Read Karl Polanyi's The Great Transformation.

In other news, Ubuntu's OS for phones is pretty fucking impressive:

http://youtu.be/cpWHJDLsqTU

... and early BB10 benchmarks/testing are already smashing iP5s, HTC with Android and Win8 in many areas and innovations.

 

[Piratos]

I knew it was coming. Things are only considered 'cool' until everyone else has them. Apple fanturds should know this.. Alas they felt otherwise hence it is too late for them .

Facebook (I hope) has got to be next. BTW, isn't the iphone a chick phone

 

[Flapjack]

So far I haven't read anything that I would define as solid on why Apple is done??? It's a much more competitive market yes but so far I have the following reasons:

- Idiots follow numbers
- Apple products are overrated because everyone owns them. (A terrible thing for a consumer electronics company)

So far that's it.... ???? So tell me why is Apple done?

Goodguy

Smartest post yet!!

What a pitiful life if your main concern is hating a successful electronics manufacturer. Ick!

 

[Flapjack]

BTW, isn't the iphone a chick phone

Einstein has nothing on Terb intellects!!

 

[George The Curious]

From developer point of view, I would not jump to a new platform until market share is more than 15%

 

[Gettin$$$$$]

apple's time will pass as does every other big company

 

[djk]

You have no F**king idea what you are talking about.

Come on buddy, you're posting on a forum where men pay to have sex with women. Let the swear words fly.

Probably because unlike those of us that have actually researched and used both devices

I own a Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy S and Nexus 7 with my iPhone and iPad. Thanks for coming out. =)

Now you can get new non-Apple supported apps (e.g. good ones) but these apps will never appear in an Apple store.

So you're now the arbiter of what's a good or not good app on iOS for everyone? Got it.

Not only that but Jailbreak phones are not only not supported by Apple but every new iO/S version will wipe out the Jailbreak and try to prevent the Jailbreak until patch is discovered (could take a few weeks).

AFAIK, if you're rooted, you may not be able to receive updates from the OEM or Google. And if you do, the root is reversed. But, that's okay because it's Android. But it's horrible if its Apple. Ok, got it.

If you want to break free from the app monopoly Apple has from your phone - you must Jailbreak it.

In Android you can root your phone. This is a procedure that in itself is a little complicated but prevents the unsophisticated user from access to a new level of programming control over their phone.

Okay, so both devices have the ability to remove all restrictions through a third party workaround but one is to free users from an evil Apple monopoly but on Android, "the procedure prevents the unsophisticated user from access to a new level of programming control over their phone". LMAO, two different standards. OK, got it.

BTW: Google Wallet is a service not available (officially) in Canada - that's why it isn't available. (Duh)

NFC is a ISO standard. Some retailers have NFC terminals. Why doesn't Google just enable it for all and let the market figure it out? That's be free opposed to the current solution.

As a past Apple user this isn't surprising since Apple had lots of apps only available in certain areas. Of course Apple pulled many apps simply because the pulled apps offered better alternatives to their own crap software which why I had to Jailbreak mine.

Apple's allowed duplicate functionality on third party apps for years now. When did you switch to Android?

You can't possibly win any argument on features or software so why not stick to figures that show the gullibilty factors among Apple purchases ?

So, if you buy an Android device, you're an enlightened person but if you buy an iOS device, you're a gullible idiot. Ok, got it. And they call Apple users condescending smug pricks. =)

 

[djk]

apple's time will pass as does every other big company

Someone gets it.

 

[djk]

What a pitiful life if your main concern is hating a successful electronics manufacturer. Ick!

LMAO. Yup.

But hey, they're good for a nice chuckle every now and then.