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the company will always be in good standing, will it be the best forever, no. is china better than america, it happens with time.
 

SirWanker

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You are kidding right!! They are the most valuable company in the world! Stocks keep going up. New iPad is coming out in march!
As was Xerox or Kodak or RIM.
Considering that the iPad4 was just released several months ago, it is rather self-defeating to bring a "new" one out so soon.
If it was the iPad mini with the same features as the iPad4, that would be entirely different.
 

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As was Xerox or Kodak or RIM.
Considering that the iPad4 was just released several months ago, it is rather self-defeating to bring a "new" one out so soon.
If it was the iPad mini with the same features as the iPad4, that would be entirely different.
When was RIM the most valuable company in the world?
 

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Let's just clarify, Apple being clearly over and above everyone else... those days are probably over. They have to compete, they are probably still on top but they have to compete.

The thread states they are over, the first two posts don't create a case aside from everyone owning Apple products. (Which is actually a good thing from a business perspective)

I still haven't heard a competent debate of why Apple is done?

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pakboy26

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AAPL is down from $700 a share to $500. There were idiot analysts saying it would go to $1000.

Morons...

It's a good company. But not worth $700, or a $1000.
 

IM469

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AAPL is down from $700 a share to $500. There were idiot analysts saying it would go to $1000.

Morons...

It's a good company. But not worth $700, or a $1000.
The analysts as well as some of the writers all got taken in by the Job's hype. Look at Facebook and those who are old enough - the Internet bubble of the late '90s. AOL was once a the media/tech darling carried by a throng of young supporters. It's amazing that you almost never hear anything about it just 20 years later.

Apple is different because although (like many tech fads) it was over valued during the initial exposure, I agree that that they are a solid company with a popular product. I wonder if sometime in the not too distant future, Apple may release the software noose that allows them to profit off every app that you put onto your iPhone. Currently if you buy an Apple computer - you can buy any compatible software that is in the market to install on your own computer. Many people (myself, even their own co-founder) have abandoned Apple to the free market - could Apple loosen this grip and compete profitably in the free market with their own software store ?
 

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The analysts as well as some of the writers all got taken in by the Job's hype. Look at Facebook and those who are old enough - the Internet bubble of the late '90s. AOL was once a the media/tech darling carried by a throng of young supporters. It's amazing that you almost never hear anything about it just 20 years later.

Apple is different because although (like many tech fads) it was over valued during the initial exposure, I agree that that they are a solid company with a popular product. I wonder if sometime in the not too distant future, Apple may release the software noose that allows them to profit off every app that you put onto your iPhone. Currently if you buy an Apple computer - you can buy any compatible software that is in the market to install on your own computer. Many people (myself, even their own co-founder) have abandoned Apple to the free market - could Apple loosen this grip and compete profitably in the free market with their own software store ?
Apple seems to be doing OK on the minimization of the mobile apps business....

Cumulative Mobile App Revenues Set to Exceed $30 Billion by End-2012

London, United Kingdom - 23 Nov 2012

To-date revenues accumulated by the global mobile application market will pass the $30 billion milestone by the end of this year, according to new Market Data from ABI Research. The cumulative revenue base includes the money made from pay-per-downloads, in-app purchases, subscriptions, and in-app advertisements, and it is nearly double the amount that had been reached by end-2011.

Senior analyst Aapo Markkanen says, “Consumers’ high interest in apps has for long time been obvious from download volumes, but it’s 2012 that will go down in history as the year when the economic side of the business finally took off. We’re no longer talking only about a short-term gold rush. Apps have become a major digital industry.”

The catalyst behind the quest of turning apps into money has been Apple, which not only came up with a compelling OS, but also with well-executed distribution and billing mechanisms. As the firm that has stood out most in 2012 Markkanen would however name Google, adding, “Google deserves a lot of credit for rehabilitating its proposition as an app distributor in the past year or so. If the old Android Market was a garage sale of the industry then the new Google Play has begun resembling a respectable department store. We estimate the Android developers’ share of the annual app revenues to set around one-third.”

Meanwhile, the main candidates for the third ecosystem, Microsoft and RIM, have clearly made the monetization aspect a key piece in their platform strategies. This means that if Windows Phone 8 or BlackBerry 10 – or even both – manage to win the users’ hearts and minds of the consumer, the threshold for developers to jump on the bandwagon won’t be high.

These findings are from ABI Research’s Mobile Application Markets Research Service. The service focuses on the distribution and the economics of mobile apps, providing data-driven insights on areas such as download volumes, revenues and business models, as well as trends within different applications categories.

http://www.abiresearch.com/press/cumulative-mobile-app-revenues-set-to-exceed-30-bi
 

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I read somewhere that Apple has 2000 apps that turn your phone into a flashlight.
And one research group said 40% of apps ha ve never been downloaded! Will try and find the source/link and paste it on here later.
 

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Guess they didn't see that in benchmarks the iPhone 5 Beats the Galaxy S III.

Besides, Windows Phone 8 on Nokia and HTC is the shiznit IMO. Until Blackberry 10 comes out.
 

djk

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the hobby needs more capitalism
As was Xerox or Kodak or RIM.
Considering that the iPad4 was just released several months ago, it is rather self-defeating to bring a "new" one out so soon.
If it was the iPad mini with the same features as the iPad4, that would be entirely different.
Opposed to the neck break speed that Android phones come out? Every time someone blinks Sony, LG, HTC, Samsung, etc is releasing a newer model.
 

djk

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the hobby needs more capitalism
Many people (myself, even their own co-founder) have abandoned Apple to the free market
Apple isn't part of the free market? Huh?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/free+market?s=t

free market
noun
an economic system in which prices and wages are determined by unrestricted competition between businesses, without government regulation or fear of monopolies.
Apple's market share is between 20-25%. I believe you've harped about this point. How is that a monopoly? And I don't remember hearing any government ramming Apple products down anyone's throat.
 

djk

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the hobby needs more capitalism
AAPL is down from $700 a share to $500. There were idiot analysts saying it would go to $1000.

Morons...

It's a good company. But not worth $700, or a $1000.
But let me guess, you think Amazon is a steal trading at a P/E of 3,546.38, right?
 
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