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afterhours

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I have somewhat similar situations from time to time. Honestly, hobbying is so much better than living with what would eventually become a nagging boring old lady that not many men could give it up. We are almost corrupted by our freedom, aren't we?
 

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in reading some of Don's other threads he seems to roll pretty high, so i can only assume that he takes women on 5 star dates. Therefore it is pretty easy and maybe even natural for a woman to project more in the future, despite the freedom and current lack of commitment he intended her to accept by his mentioning of other women. "when you move in ...." isnt really an ultimatum or serious ask.

I think Don may have an acute need to take total control over the power in every relationship with a female. In a different thread he offered up a similar situation in Cuba where a young lady did something which he thought was wrong, (like this situation it would have rolled off my back if i had any HUMAN connection with her) so he dropped an iron curtain and despite an amazing sexual connection, according to him, it was immediately over and within hours he was fucking someone even hotter.

PS, Whats with the bold font anyhow Don?
 

afterhours

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I think Don may have an acute need to take total control over the power in every relationship with a female. In a different thread he offered up a similar situation in Cuba where a young lady did something which he thought was wrong, (like this situation it would have rolled off my back if i had any HUMAN connection with her) so he dropped an iron curtain and despite an amazing sexual connection, according to him, it was immediately over and within hours he was fucking someone even hotter.
that is very normal for a Canadian while in Cuba.
 

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Don presents this as an ongoing NSA situation yet somehow she thought it was "going somewhere" and building a relationship that might lead to a live-in deal?

There's something fishy here.

If she really never heard and understood that this was a fun-without-growth scenario, then from what Don says she missed something big along the way.

If she put out there that she was expecting something else and Don simply chose to believe otherwise, then he missed something big along the way.

Either way, it's obvious that no communication was really happening for the past year. Which should really come as a surprise for someone "in advertising" the way Don Draper is. But isn't really a surprise, knowing the way Don Draper is.
 

james t kirk

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At what age does a man decide that he no longer wants to just be a free agent forever?

Do you want to be 65 and never married, never had even a committed relationship, never been in love? Just booking hookers and living by yourself?

I suppose, but it's not desireable from my point of view.
 

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Don presents this as an ongoing NSA situation yet somehow she thought it was "going somewhere" and building a relationship that might lead to a live-in deal?

There's something fishy here.

If she really never heard and understood that this was a fun-without-growth scenario, then from what Don says she missed something big along the way.

If she put out there that she was expecting something else and Don simply chose to believe otherwise, then he missed something big along the way.

Either way, it's obvious that no communication was really happening for the past year. Which should really come as a surprise for someone "in advertising" the way Don Draper is. But isn't really a surprise, knowing the way Don Draper is.
In my view, I don't think communication is the problem. In my experience, it is so ingrained in women that a man will one day come along and pay the bills, that even if you say you won't, it just bounces off them.

It is hard for men to understand this mentality, because we are taught that we must pay for ourselves.

Picture a world where every restaurant meal is free, you can watch tv all day, all your clothes are free, etc. It is hard for men to imagine this, but this is the world of a wife.
 

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Poor analogy. I know plenty of wealthy girls (screamingly wealthy) who want a man to take care of them too. It's a common biological trait among females everywhere, even in our progressive society.
Why do you think I disagree about that? I said it was ingrained in women that a man would pay their bills.
 

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afterhours

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At what age does a man decide that he no longer wants to just be a free agent forever?

Do you want to be 65 and never married, never had even a committed relationship, never been in love? Just booking hookers and living by yourself?

I suppose, but it's not desireable from my point of view.
I think this decision should be informed by ones desire to have kids and grand kids.
 

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At what age does a man decide that he no longer wants to just be a free agent forever?

Do you want to be 65 and never married, never had even a committed relationship, never been in love? Just booking hookers and living by yourself?

I suppose, but it's not desireable from my point of view.
How about 65, living in a basement, all your money having gone to an ex-wife (who hates you) and 50% of your current income also going to her?

Personally, if marriage meant a woman paying my bills, then I would get married in a second. It is never a mystery to me why women always push men into marriage.
 

GPIDEAL

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Don just doesn't want to be owned.
You should change your handle to bobistheWISEowl. :)


Like a few others said, she sneaked it in which made her distrustful to Don. It's not like it was an honest & open question but maybe a Freudian slip. She has perhaps fallen for him too and wants him all to herself, but deception is not an appealing characteristic in a mate.
 

GPIDEAL

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At what age does a man decide that he no longer wants to just be a free agent forever?

Do you want to be 65 and never married, never had even a committed relationship, never been in love? Just booking hookers and living by yourself?

I suppose, but it's not desireable from my point of view.
I would agree with you, and add that the love of my life should be open-minded, be a whore in the bedroom, and enjoy adventure and possible swinging. Of course, kissing, cuddling and snuggling is allowed too.
 

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You should change your handle to bobistheWISEowl. :)
<Andy Samberg as Nicolas Cage>: That high praise.

Actually, the wise one in this thread is SillyGirl. On the rare occasions when she makes a post, it's always precise, concise, and bang on target.
 

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How about 65, living in a basement, all your money having gone to an ex-wife (who hates you) and 50% of your current income also going to her?

Personally, if marriage meant a woman paying my bills, then I would get married in a second. It is never a mystery to me why women always push men into marriage.
The courts and legal system are so screwed up in Canada that you have to be insane to get married these days. Especially considering the divorce rate and that fact that many Canadian women are self absorbed gold diggers. North America has over 70% of the worlds lawyers and 90% of the lawsuits.

I would not be too surprised if she calls in a few weeks to let you know she's pregnant. lol
 

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I would agree with you, and add that the love of my life should be open-minded, be a whore in the bedroom, and enjoy adventure and possible swinging. Of course, kissing, cuddling and snuggling is allowed too.
LOL. Yes, the Holy Grail. Maybe you will find out, I sure hope so. Most of us will have to settle. I also think that the older, more experienced we are, the more we expect, and that may be the issue in this story. She wanted more from the relationship, and finally brought it up. She may not have brought it up in the way Don expected her to, if she ever did so. Can we really expect another free human being from always reacting exactly how we expect them to?
 
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