One more time, we don't really care about bites, just fatal attacks ffs. You're wrong again about mistaking one for the other and the incident records, not the media reports, show that clearly, as they report a single attack by a English Bull Terrier. An English Bull Terrier looks nothing like a Pit Bull. The rest refer to Pit Bulls. You keep making stuff up and assume stuff from one thing to another and look more the fool every time.
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its laughable that you are praising the bull terrier yet demonizing the pitbull. they are basically the same dog both were bred to fight. If you like one you have to like the other !
The English Bull Terrier was bred to fit bulls and to lesser extent other dogs a long long time ago and hardly resembled the dog of today. It was also bred to hunt and kill vermin. They are no where near the same dog. Even Ceasar Millan sees that, but of course you know more than him.
So, he still says they are different than other dogs.
How can you make that claim. Oh I forget you make things up.He has many different dogs, read some where in the vicinity of 30, of which one or two are PB's.
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Lorain pit bull mauls 5-year-old Shih Tzu
LORAIN — A Lorain woman’s 5-year-old Shih Tzu dog was fatally mauled by a neighbor’s pit bull when she let her dog outside to go bathroom, according to a Lorain police report. The incident is under investigation, police indicated.
The woman said her dog was playing in the yard of her westside Lorain home Wednesday evening when the pit pull broke its chain and attacked the 9-pound Shih Tzu. The woman saw the pit bull mauling her pet dog, but was unable to intervene, a police report said. The Shih Tzu ran away and didn’t return until the next morning. The woman took the injured dog to the Amherst Animal Hospital where it died shortly after arriving, she said. The Shih Tzu suffered multiple broken ribs, internal bleeding, a fractured foot and several puncture wounds, the police report said.
The pit bull is not registered and has attacked another neighbor and a dog down the street last August, the woman said.
http://morningjournal.com/articles/2013/01/05/news/doc50e7b055382d7701582217.txt
Town of Baldwin, N.Y. - Two Chemung County children are severely injured after being mauled by a family pit bull.
Both children are being treated in a Rochester hospital following Thursday's attack. The dog attacked them at their home at 183 Hugg Road in the Town of Baldwin. One of the kids is an 11 year old girl and the other is a 13 year old boy.
The sheriff's office says of one of the children has a broken arm. Both have severe puncture wounds.
Authorities say a man named Lance Hall and Amanda Rounds, the mother of the children, live at the home.
We were able to speak with the owner and landlord of the home who lives across the road. He says the little girl got the worst of the attack and thanks god because it could have been worse.
Ashur Terwilliger said, “She is a gorgeous little girl. She is just beautiful and luckily the dog didn't get to her face which is really by the grace of God that happened. But her legs and arms were bit pretty good.”
Terwilliger says the girl’s older brother acted heroically. He says the boy knew to call 911 and even got his B.B. gun to stop the dog before help could arrive.
Terwilliger said, “I should say the boy deserves a medal when the dog was after his sister for him to go out and attack that dog. I just think it's amazing for that boy to have that courage.”
The dog was immediately put down by the sheriff's office.
http://www.wetmtv.com/news/local/story/Two-Children-Attacked-By-Pit-Bull/btHZ3hn560uOOjCQDuhcqw.cspx
Michael Bonito, an Indianapolis Animal Control officer, was severely injured in an attack by a white Pit Bull on Saturday, December 29, in the 2400 block of Asbury Street. The dog had earlier mauled a woman, who was hospitalized at Wishard Memorial Hospital. The officer was performing a follow-up investigation of that incident.
Two Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Officers responded to a call that an officer needed help shortly after 5 p.m. on Saturday eveniing, according to the IndyStar.com.
“That dog was tearing him up,” said witness James Belle, Jr., who had quickly called 911. “He’s over there with the dog biting him, chewing him up.”
Before they were able to locate the injured animal control officer, the police officers encountered the Pit Bull, with blood on him, behind a house in the 2400 block of Asbury Street. There were still blood stains in the fresh white snow Monday, according to Fox 59 News.
The violent Pit Bull charged the two police officers, and Officer Nicholas Hubbs fired his handgun and struck the dog in the neck. The dog retreated behind the house, the report states.
After Officers Hubbs and Jose Navarro helped injured Animal Control Officer Bonito limp to safety, Officer Hubbs headed back toward the house, carrying his IMPD-issued 12-gauge shotgun.
He again located the Pit Bull, who was still behind the house and on the other side of a chain-link fence. The dog growled and bared his teeth and then attempted to jump the fence. Officer Hubbs fired two shots, striking him in the neck and chest. Those shots “ultimately destroyed the dog,” the police report states.
Officer Bonito was transported to Wishard Memorial Hospital, where he was treated and later released. “I have tear wounds on this arm,” Bonito said in a Fox59 interview, “Some leg bites as well.
Officer Bonito had gone to the same hospital earlier in the day to interview the woman who was attacked by the white Pit Bull that morning. From there, he went to the Asbury Street address to try to locate the dog.
“He’d gone out to get photos…and somebody had the animal in question contained in their car,” Anima Control spokesman Adam Garrett said. When the dog was let out of the car, he attacked Officer Bonito.
Spokesman Garrett did not have further information about the earlier attack on the woman except to say that it was serious.
The woman believed to be the dog’s owner, Michelle Gonzalez, who lives at the location where the dog was found, was issued citations as a result, Garrett told the IndyStar.com.
Jerry Nutter, a neighbor, said he is "fed up" and that he had warned the dog’s owner, “I done told her about them dogs. Them dogs keep getting out.”
But Gonzalez told Fox59 the animal did not belong to her. “It is a stray,” she said. “I never fed this dog. It’s never been, you know, in my house or anything.”
She told Fox 59 that she had posted on Craigslist to try to find the dog’s owner but did not call animal control, “…if it was somebody’s dog I just assumed they would call,” she explained. She said she wound up with fines, which she will fight in court.
Officer Bonito, urged residents to call authorities immediately when they notice a stray in their neighborhood, especially if the animal is aggressive. He told Fox 59 that people need to be aware of strays in their area and to "call animal control…so that they can come out and deal with the issue.”
“Officer Bonito is still recovering from the severe bite wounds,” Spokesman Garrett told OpposingViews.com in an interview on Thursday, January 3, 3013.
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/anim...control-officer-michael-bonito-cop-shoots-dog
LORAIN — A Lorain woman’s 5-year-old Shih Tzu dog was fatally mauled by a neighbor’s pit bull when she let her dog outside to go bathroom, according to a Lorain police report. The incident is under investigation, police indicated.
The woman said her dog was playing in the yard of her westside Lorain home Wednesday evening when the pit pull broke its chain and attacked the 9-pound Shih Tzu. The woman saw the pit bull mauling her pet dog, but was unable to intervene, a police report said. The Shih Tzu ran away and didn’t return until the next morning. The woman took the injured dog to the Amherst Animal Hospital where it died shortly after arriving, she said. The Shih Tzu suffered multiple broken ribs, internal bleeding, a fractured foot and several puncture wounds, the police report said.
The pit bull is not registered and has attacked another neighbor and a dog down the street last August, the woman said.
http://morningjournal.com/articles/2013/01/05/news/doc50e7b055382d7701582217.txt
Town of Baldwin, N.Y. - Two Chemung County children are severely injured after being mauled by a family pit bull.
Both children are being treated in a Rochester hospital following Thursday's attack. The dog attacked them at their home at 183 Hugg Road in the Town of Baldwin. One of the kids is an 11 year old girl and the other is a 13 year old boy.
The sheriff's office says of one of the children has a broken arm. Both have severe puncture wounds.
Authorities say a man named Lance Hall and Amanda Rounds, the mother of the children, live at the home.
We were able to speak with the owner and landlord of the home who lives across the road. He says the little girl got the worst of the attack and thanks god because it could have been worse.
Ashur Terwilliger said, “She is a gorgeous little girl. She is just beautiful and luckily the dog didn't get to her face which is really by the grace of God that happened. But her legs and arms were bit pretty good.”
Terwilliger says the girl’s older brother acted heroically. He says the boy knew to call 911 and even got his B.B. gun to stop the dog before help could arrive.
Terwilliger said, “I should say the boy deserves a medal when the dog was after his sister for him to go out and attack that dog. I just think it's amazing for that boy to have that courage.”
The dog was immediately put down by the sheriff's office.
http://www.wetmtv.com/news/local/story/Two-Children-Attacked-By-Pit-Bull/btHZ3hn560uOOjCQDuhcqw.cspx
Michael Bonito, an Indianapolis Animal Control officer, was severely injured in an attack by a white Pit Bull on Saturday, December 29, in the 2400 block of Asbury Street. The dog had earlier mauled a woman, who was hospitalized at Wishard Memorial Hospital. The officer was performing a follow-up investigation of that incident.
Two Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Officers responded to a call that an officer needed help shortly after 5 p.m. on Saturday eveniing, according to the IndyStar.com.
“That dog was tearing him up,” said witness James Belle, Jr., who had quickly called 911. “He’s over there with the dog biting him, chewing him up.”
Before they were able to locate the injured animal control officer, the police officers encountered the Pit Bull, with blood on him, behind a house in the 2400 block of Asbury Street. There were still blood stains in the fresh white snow Monday, according to Fox 59 News.
The violent Pit Bull charged the two police officers, and Officer Nicholas Hubbs fired his handgun and struck the dog in the neck. The dog retreated behind the house, the report states.
After Officers Hubbs and Jose Navarro helped injured Animal Control Officer Bonito limp to safety, Officer Hubbs headed back toward the house, carrying his IMPD-issued 12-gauge shotgun.
He again located the Pit Bull, who was still behind the house and on the other side of a chain-link fence. The dog growled and bared his teeth and then attempted to jump the fence. Officer Hubbs fired two shots, striking him in the neck and chest. Those shots “ultimately destroyed the dog,” the police report states.
Officer Bonito was transported to Wishard Memorial Hospital, where he was treated and later released. “I have tear wounds on this arm,” Bonito said in a Fox59 interview, “Some leg bites as well.
Officer Bonito had gone to the same hospital earlier in the day to interview the woman who was attacked by the white Pit Bull that morning. From there, he went to the Asbury Street address to try to locate the dog.
“He’d gone out to get photos…and somebody had the animal in question contained in their car,” Anima Control spokesman Adam Garrett said. When the dog was let out of the car, he attacked Officer Bonito.
Spokesman Garrett did not have further information about the earlier attack on the woman except to say that it was serious.
The woman believed to be the dog’s owner, Michelle Gonzalez, who lives at the location where the dog was found, was issued citations as a result, Garrett told the IndyStar.com.
Jerry Nutter, a neighbor, said he is "fed up" and that he had warned the dog’s owner, “I done told her about them dogs. Them dogs keep getting out.”
But Gonzalez told Fox59 the animal did not belong to her. “It is a stray,” she said. “I never fed this dog. It’s never been, you know, in my house or anything.”
She told Fox 59 that she had posted on Craigslist to try to find the dog’s owner but did not call animal control, “…if it was somebody’s dog I just assumed they would call,” she explained. She said she wound up with fines, which she will fight in court.
Officer Bonito, urged residents to call authorities immediately when they notice a stray in their neighborhood, especially if the animal is aggressive. He told Fox 59 that people need to be aware of strays in their area and to "call animal control…so that they can come out and deal with the issue.”
“Officer Bonito is still recovering from the severe bite wounds,” Spokesman Garrett told OpposingViews.com in an interview on Thursday, January 3, 3013.
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/anim...control-officer-michael-bonito-cop-shoots-dog
I was on the side of pit bulls until I read this. If you are not going to respect the views of a man/expert like Cesar Milan, then you do not want to deal with reality.
when you see german shephard police dogs attacking someone does it look like they feel pain? when humans are fighting for their lives do they feel pain? its called adrenaline etc what cesar milan said is stupid. I guess his argument is pit bulls need responsible, experienced owners to train and handle them properly which is true but the pitbull has been a family dog for hundreds of years. I havnt met one animal professional such as a vet or a groomer that has anything bad to say about pitbulls only ignorant housewives and people like blackrock. If you own a pitbull there are basic rules, do not leave them unattended with other animals unless they are housemates, and you do not let them off leash unless they are very well trained....that is all. if your dog is aggressive and will bite a person, then it has to be put down which alot of people don;t do unfortunately until something bad happens
Again you think you know more than Caesar. You haven't met any vets or grooms who speak badly about PBs? Since PB don't need professional groomers, I say your anecdote is BS, since groomers probably have little contact with them. In about three months, I'm going to be meeting with about 50 vets from all over the world, probably more than you've talked to in your entire life. I'll make a point of asking them their thoughts and see what they say.
Once again .....the village idiot speaks!
Every dog that goes into the show ring has spent time with a professional groomer....do you think the hair on PB'doesnt grow or get out of control...hair in the ears, pads need trimming!! and so on and so on.
When we showed our dogs we were back in the prep area and all the dogs were getting primped bathed groomed......yeah even PB' enjoyed the waterless baths
From pekanese to Irish wolf hounds and every breed in-between...GOD....ignorance is such an easy defence for some people!
what colour is the sky in your world??
At no time has MSOG said he showed his dog and I don't mean with the boys down at the park, but at a sanctioned show. If he did show them, that would be different.
Nothing like bringing in facts not in evidence.
The show dogs are a different animal all together and I'm lukewarm about what the show ring has done to some breeds. German Shephards, Cavaliers, Ridgebacks, English Bulldogs Boxers, and Pugs are just a few breeds that have suffered, all for the sake of human vanity. Much of this as a result of breeding dogs too closely related.
Fact....you made the blanket statement that PB don't need pro groomers.....
If dogs aren't groomed properly...BY someone trained to do it..you can cause ear problems by not cleaning them properly trimming the nail not enough they curl into the pad ...too much you can cut the quik ..and cause severe discomfort and infections..improper bathing...skin irritations and allergies..unless done by someone who knows which shampoo and conditioners to use per the breed
longhaired breeds/ short haired ones
As far as breeders and showers go...I will agree on that point a good breeder ..and I said good..will go outside the lineage for atleast 2 sometimes 3 generations to breed to prevent abnormalities in the offspring.
You're correct, I forgot there are a few double digit IQ such as yourself among the members of TERB. Clearly I should have said 'generally' PBs don't need professional groomers. I'm aware of what proper care involves, having had dogs of my own, all who lived to ripe old ages, and worked with literally 100's of others over the years. Regular grooming, trimming and cleaning ears, and trimming nails is part of owning a dog, not really that hard to learn, and a great time for bonding.
Unfortunately, until recently the lists of 'good' breeders who didn't follow common sense was very long. Even umbrella groups like the British Kennel Association, were deaf, dumb, and blind to what is common sense and many breeds and owners suffer from it.
pitbulls need to be bathed and have their nails cut etc just like any other dog. Also, cesar milan isnt the pitbull hater that blackrock is making him out to be, far from it. everyone knows the pitbull is his favourite breed of dog he just advocates responsibility.
all veterinary organizations such as the american veterinary association all disagree with breed specific legislation, the type of experts that someone like blackrock should be agreeing with since he always seems to think the establishment is always right and he never takes a contrarian view....I guess only when its convenient for his argument
So I gather you don't show your dog at sanctioned shows, figured.
'All vet organizations' and then you name just one and bring in the question of species specific laws, which we aren't really discussing. The dangerous dog guidelines are about dangerous dogs, not just breeds, as cross breeds make the laws muddy, yet the facts and figures say the PB shows up quite a number of times, more than any other breed by far. Check the CDC study over 20 years/
As I said I'll get back to you how 50 international vets, 12+ or so whom I've work with in the field about their thoughts on PBs. I'm sure you'll find some way to discredit their credentials, since you apparently think you know more than CM about dogs, but I'll put their knowledge and skills up against yours anytime.
