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Is wearing fur immoral?

blackrock13

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Just someone's point of view of what is right and wrong.
Being a personal of view of right or wrong is different than immoral, which involves a widespread general societal view. Even the farming of mink, sable, and such, that many look on as the most despicable, isn't strictly for fashion as there are byproducts that are used for other things, including food.
 

asterwald

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It depends on species. A raccoon or beaver are fine. But if you wear the fur of a bear or Foxbat, you are being a plain asshole.
 

blackrock13

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It depends on species. A raccoon or beaver are fine. But if you wear the fur of a bear or Foxbat, you are being a plain asshole.
Foxbat fur?

As for bears, since they aren't farmed, we then go to those who hunt them and believe they user all the bear, so it's not just for fur. Now Polar Bears are another matter. Beaver pelts sell at auction for ~$30 which means the trapper/hunter get ~$15. At the extreme end, a polar bear pelt to a inuit hunter can pull well in excess of $125,000-$250,000. Wolf pelts would run round $125 for the hunter or more if they sell it to the public properly certified/stamped of course. He of course uses the rest of the animal.
 

IM469

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Being a personal of view of right or wrong is different than immoral, which involves a widespread general societal view.
It still involves someone's point of view. You can group yourselves together and argue whether the majority is correct and those with a different point of view are immoral. As you can see from viewpoints of Western vs Muslim (Afghanistan) - you may not be the majority but you will still judge moral behaviour by your own personal viewpoint.
 

blackrock13

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It still involves someone's point of view. You can group yourselves together and argue whether the majority is correct and those with a different point of view are immoral. As you can see from viewpoints of Western vs Muslim (Afghanistan) - you may not be the majority but you will still judge moral behaviour by your own personal viewpoint.
I look at the 'moral' judgement as a collective point of view, as do most Dictionaries. If you feel it's distasteful, wrong, nasty, horrible, fine, but the immoral tag is, by definition, a collective or general view.
 

rld

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Foxbat fur?

As for bears, since they aren't farmed, we then go to those who hunt them and believe they user all the bear, so it's not just for fur. Now Polar Bears are another matter. Beaver pelts sell at auction for ~$30 which means the trapper/hunter get ~$15. At the extreme end, a polar bear pelt to a inuit hunter can pull well in excess of $125,000-$250,000. Wolf pelts would run round $125 for the hunter or more if they sell it to the public properly certified/stamped of course. He of course uses the rest of the animal.
Seriously 100k+ for a polar bear pelt...that would go a long way up north...
 

blackrock13

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Seriously 100k+ for a polar bear pelt...that would go a long way up north...
$100,000 is a low estimate. Often the filthy rich hunters who pays $60,000 just wants the head and the bragging rights. The rest goes to the guides. A 1500 lb bear has a lot to offer up to a community.
 

red

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no. if you kill animals for sport- I have a problem with that, if you kill them to live, then its different.
 

onthebottom

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Of course not, no different than leather.

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Seriously 100k+ for a polar bear pelt...that would go a long way up north...
It certainly would, the average Inuit is so poor that when they go seal hunting they lay in wait for hours for two seals to line up so that they can shoot 2 seals with one .75 cent bullet.
 
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