Earthquake experts get six years in jail for failing to warn people in Italian town

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ANNALISA CAMILLI
The Associated Press

L'AQUILA, ITALY—An Italian court convicted seven scientists and experts of manslaughter on Monday for failing to adequately warn citizens before an earthquake struck central Italy in 2009, killing more than 300 people.

The court in L'Aquila also sentenced the defendants to six years in prison. Each one is a member of the national Great Risks Commission.

In Italy, convictions aren't definitive until after at least one level of appeals, so it is unlikely any of the defendants would face jail immediately.

Scientists worldwide had decried the trial as ridiculous, contending that science has no reliable way of predicting earthquakes.

Among those convicted were some of Italy's most prominent and internationally respected seismologists and geological experts, including Enzo Boschi, former head of the national Institute of Geophysics and Volcanology.

“I am dejected, desperate,” Boschi said after the verdict. “I thought I would have been acquitted. I still don't understand what I was convicted of.

The trial began in September 2011 in this Apennine town, whose devastated historic centre is still largely a ghost town.

The defendants were accused in the indictment of giving “inexact, incomplete and contradictory information” about whether small tremors felt by L'Aquila residents in the weeks and months before the April 6, 2009, quake should have constituted grounds for a quake warning.

The 6.3-magnitude quake killed 308 people in and around the medieval town and forced survivors to live in tent camps for months.

Many much smaller earth tremors had rattled the area in the months before the quake, causing frightened people to wonder if they should evacuate.

“I consider myself innocent before God and men,” said another convicted defendant, Bernardo De Bernardinis, a former official of the national Civil Protection agency.

Prosecutors had sought conviction and four-year sentences during the non-jury trial, which was led by a judge.

A defence lawyer, Filippo Dinacci, told reporters that the sentence would have “big repercussions” on public administration since officials would be afraid to “do anything.”
 

LKD

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like we don't know the Italian govt and courts are corrupt and function on their own illogical terms
 

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The Italian judicial system seems for have been going down hill for the past century, and to have significant institutional difficulties with scientific evidence.
 

larry

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perhaps they subscribe to the usada method of judgement. no proof required.
 

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the Italian judicial system already made a joke of themselves during the Meredith Kercher case ... Looks like they're still keeping up with the trend with this recent case
 

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Hopefully with my face in a pussy
Another example of what happens when lawyers are just about the only people in government. Time to start placing quotas, and specify that there must be a certain percentage of scientists, medical doctors, etc.
 

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Sound familiar

The earth does NOT orbit around the sun !!!

The the earth revolves around the legal system,...and you will be put away if you say otherwise.


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In Canada this would likely be a civil as opposed to a criminal case. There has to be some accountability and consequence for gross negligence.
 

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Another example of what happens when lawyers are just about the only people in government. Time to start placing quotas, and specify that there must be a certain percentage of scientists, medical doctors, etc.
Now that sounds very democratic.

I can't wait.
 

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Just noticed a huge drop in enrollments in the seismology programs in Italian universities. Seismologists are quitting their jobs in droves.
 

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While I have been strongly against prosecution of scientists ever since the prosecution of Galileo, it does appear that th seismologists behaved recklessly in this case. It is reported that they came to investigate small tremors in the area, did their study and told the people there that there was no danger and they should calmly stay in their houses. If these reports are true, the seismologists were reckless.

In any event, the conviction will surely be overturned on appeal.
 
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In Canada this would likely be a civil as opposed to a criminal case.
That would be true in any Common Law country.

There has to be some accountability and consequence for gross negligence.
What gross negligence? If the Weather Service says we don't think any Hurricanes will strike Nova Scotia this year, and then one does, is that gross negligence? Should the estates of those from "The Perfect Storm" have been able to sue or pursue criminal charges against the meteorologists who "blew the forecast"?
 

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That would be true in any Common Law country.

What gross negligence? If the Weather Service says we don't think any Hurricanes will strike Nova Scotia this year, and then one does, is that gross negligence? Should the estates of those from "The Perfect Storm" have been able to sue or pursue criminal charges against the meteorologists who "blew the forecast"?
Good point.

California did not prosecute scientists after the 1994 Northridge earthquake for failing to put front page headlines in the Los Angeles Times the day before saying "Attention - there will be a major earthquake tomorrow morning so clear out of town". Science can't predict earthquakes before they happen with any degree of accuracy. What did the Italians want the scientists to say? "sometime in the next year you might get an earthquake here - or not"
 

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Needs fixing

Another example of what happens when lawyers are just about the only people in government. Time to start placing quotas, and specify that there must be a certain percentage of scientists, medical doctors, etc.
That would explain a lot of things.

Another improvement would be, that judges cannot be lawyers.

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Just got to always err on the side of caution by always predicting one's just around the corner.
 

Rockslinger

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What gross negligence? If the Weather Service says we don't think any Hurricanes will strike Nova Scotia this year, and then one does, is that gross negligence? Should the estates of those from "The Perfect Storm" have been able to sue or pursue criminal charges against the meteorologists who "blew the forecast"?
I agree that predicting weather is still an inexact science, I was thinking more along the lines of contaminated meat and water, etc.
 
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