It looks like the third presidential debate will be crucial

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So far, there are no indications the second presidential debate had much impact on the election, other than to have possibly stopped some of the bleeding from Obama's support.

If current polls are to be believed, the race is still very tight.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/157817/election-2012-likely-voters-trial-heat-obama-romney.aspx

It looks like the third debate on Monday evening is going to be an important one. I still believe Romney has an opportunity to score some real points when it comes to Obama's storyline about Benghazi (particularly since Candy Crowley won't be moderating).
 

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So far, there are no indications the second presidential debate had much impact on the election, other than to have possibly stopped some of the bleeding from Obama's support.

If current polls are to be believed, the race is still very tight.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/157817/election-2012-likely-voters-trial-heat-obama-romney.aspx

It looks like the third debate on Monday evening is going to be an important one. I still believe Romney has an opportunity to score some real points when it comes to Obama's storyline about Benghazi (particularly since Candy Crowley won't be moderating).
I think we'll have to wait until Sunday or Sat by the earliest to gauge see the impact of the 2nd Pres. debate.
 

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I think we'll have to wait until Sunday or Sat by the earliest to gauge see the impact of the 2nd Pres. debate.
Going forward it's the ground game and GOTV efforts that are going to count. The polls are confusing to say the least:

OBAMA RESILIENCY IN SWING STATES:
One of the risks in focusing too much on the results of any one poll, like the Gallup national tracking poll, is that you may lose sight of the bigger picture
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytime...-forecast-on-resiliency-in-swing-state-polls/

and
http://elections.wispolitics.com/2012/10/nbcwsjmarist-obama-51-romney-45-baldwin.html
 

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Either the Gallop Poll is wildly inacurate or Governor Romney is breaking out.
That is an overstatement on both accounts.

Firstly, it is a single poll and to call a "breakout" based on a single outlier is very wishful thinking.

Secondly, Gallup tends to be quite wrong when it runs contra to other polls. It is a historical pattern.
 

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So far, there are no indications the second presidential debate had much impact on the election, other than to have possibly stopped some of the bleeding from Obama's support.

If current polls are to be believed, the race is still very tight.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/157817/election-2012-likely-voters-trial-heat-obama-romney.aspx

It looks like the third debate on Monday evening is going to be an important one. I still believe Romney has an opportunity to score some real points when it comes to Obama's storyline about Benghazi (particularly since Candy Crowley won't be moderating).
cant wait for mondays debate!
 

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Either the Gallop Poll is wildly inacurate or Governor Romney is breaking out.

Here is what Gallup said about the poll:
But Newport was cautious in interpreting his numbers. Gallup’s poll cheered Romney supporters because it showed Romney gaining ground even after the second debate. But Newport didn’t see it like that. Remember, he warned, it’s a seven-day poll. “I think we’re still seeing leftover positive support for Romney and I don’t think we’re seeing impact yet from the second debate,” he says.
 

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Either way it matters little to GOPers who live by 'fuzzy numbers'....;)
 

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Here is what Gallup said about the poll:
But Newport was cautious in interpreting his numbers. Gallup’s poll cheered Romney supporters because it showed Romney gaining ground even after the second debate. But Newport didn’t see it like that. Remember, he warned, it’s a seven-day poll. “I think we’re still seeing leftover positive support for Romney and I don’t think we’re seeing impact yet from the second debate,” he says.
There are more polls that put him ahead. (Examiner)

Several polls conducted since the debate support this notion, as Romney seeks to win states that are going to be critical to a Republican victory in just eighteen days. While nationally, polls have put Romney in anything from a tie to a seven-point lead, the real math comes into play within each of the nine to twelve battleground states.

In Pennsylvania, a poll done by Susquehanna Research and reported by the Washington Examiner puts Romney ahead, 49 percent to 45 percent. A poll done by Quinnipiac puts Romney ahead 50-46. It is a sharp contrast to 2008, when the state went for Obama in 2008 by double digits.
In North Carolina, Romney is shown to have a 52-46 lead, according to both PPP and Rasmussen. The Romney camp is feeling confident enough about North Carolina that the campaign began shifting some resources to other battleground states, believing the state's 15 electoral votes to be a certainty.
Florida also looks more friendly for Romney's camp, with FIVE polls released in the last week showing Romney with an average lead of 2.5%.
In Missouri, which narrowly went for Obama in 2008, Romney now enjoys an eleven point lead according to Rasmussen, 54-43. Even with a high margin of error of plus or minus 4.5%, the state looks more and more likely like it might be a GOP win
In Ohio, polls now show a dead heat, with Obama's lead down to one point (49-48) in polls taken after then second debate.
 

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This debate is about foreign policy?
Obama will win. He is strong here
This election is about the economy. And Obama should have done better, much better, in the first debate. If he loses, which I think is increasingly possible, he will have no one to blame but himself.
 

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I remember during the last federal election in Canada the polls showed Harper had a very slight lead. It turns out he blew the Liberals out of the water on election day possibly because there are a lot of closet conservatives out there. People are afraid to admit they're conservative out of fear of being bashed or isolated since it's believed most people are liberal, and the mainstream media could not get anymore liberal. If polls show Romney has a slight lead, he's going to crush Obama on election day, in part because of the many closet conservatives who are afraid to admit who they're really voting for.
 

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I remember during the last federal election in Canada the polls showed Harper had a very slight lead. It turns out he blew the Liberals out of the water on election day possibly because there are a lot of closet conservatives out there. People are afraid to admit they're conservative out of fear of being bashed or isolated since it's believed most people are liberal, and the mainstream media could not get anymore liberal. If polls show Romney has a slight lead, he's going to crush Obama on election day, in part because of the many closet conservatives who are afraid to admit who they're really voting for.
Canada is not the US and vice versa. If you have spent any time in the US you would know that people who lean to the right have no problem in letting it be known.
 

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I remember during the last federal election in Canada the polls showed Harper had a very slight lead. It turns out he blew the Liberals out of the water on election day possibly because there are a lot of closet conservatives out there. People are afraid to admit they're conservative out of fear of being bashed or isolated since it's believed most people are liberal, and the mainstream media could not get anymore liberal. If polls show Romney has a slight lead, he's going to crush Obama on election day, in part because of the many closet conservatives who are afraid to admit who they're really voting for.
The difference between the polls and the voting results?
robocalls.
 

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This election is about the economy. And Obama should have done better, much better, in the first debate. If he loses, which I think is increasingly possible, he will have no one to blame but himself.

agreed - but I believe this debate is about foreign policy. Obama should win this debate. (it may not translate into an election win)
 

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This debate is about foreign policy?
Obama will win. He is strong here
I don't think its Obama's strong suit. His ME policy has led to the region in absolute chaos. Arbitrary timeline on Afganistan is stupid too. And his gov't handling of the Benghazi attack is just downright deplorable.

Romney is going to crush him for good in this debate.
 

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I don't think its Obama's strong suit. His ME policy has led to the region in absolute chaos. Arbitrary timeline on Afganistan is stupid too. And his gov't handling of the Benghazi attack is just downright deplorable.

Romney is going to crush him for good in this debate.
Unbelievable how Obama fucked up the paradise Bush left him.
 

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I don't think its Obama's strong suit. His ME policy has led to the region in absolute chaos. Arbitrary timeline on Afganistan is stupid too. And his gov't handling of the Benghazi attack is just downright deplorable.

Romney is going to crush him for good in this debate.
Hitting the sauce early, eh KD....:D
 

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If there's a neutral moderator tomorrow night, Romney should easily be able to embarrass Obama during the debate on issues of foreign policy, especially without Candy Crowley there to help out Obama on his Benghazi scandal.
 

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If there's a neutral moderator tomorrow night, Romney should easily be able to embarras Obama during the debate on issues of foreign policy, especially without Candy Crowley there to help out Obama on his Benghazi scandal.
It is good to know that people still dream big.

And good on Candy for pointing out Romney's lies.
 
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