Angry Quebecois goes apeshit over asian people speaking English in public in Montreal
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Firstly, they give preference to immigrants from Haiti and Vietnam because they speak French and then they treat them with distain.I worked in Montreal and they hated everyone that was an immigrant,
Immigration is federal , but be that as it may, my own experience is that racism is no worse in Montreal than in Toronto but outside of the city Quebecers are sadly the biggest racists in Canada.Firstly, they give preference to immigrants from Haiti and Vietnam because they speak French and then they treat them with distain.
It was nice to see that Marois' pandering to the bigots didn't get her a majority though.
I have visited urban and rural Quebec a fair bit over the years. Never once has my poor grasp of French been an issue. Well just once, about ten years ago this beautiful hatian girl who was helping me at a clothing store asked me why I didn't speak french - since I lived in Montreal. I told her I didn't and that was the end of it.I think it was the Poutine speaking.
I think it is a mistake to think that "the average quebecker" thinks this way. Pq got about 1/3 of the vote iirc. And as has been illustrated above, not all ofnthat was from real sovereigntists. Keep in mind in the last federal election, the BQ was decimated. Pq got the most seats combining separatist votes and socialist ones. They will need to try to do whAt is "best for quebeckers" and sovereignty is not that. It simply is not supported by most of the people.
What is sad is that the separitsts / nationalists fail to realize that they really have succeeded over the last 200 plus years to create and maintain a distinct cultural and linguistic identity - despite living within thenst of Canada. They are not under threat of English domination any more than any other non English speaking country in the world. Through most of Europe and inceraingly Asia, a working knowledge of English is essential for survival. I can go to these places, and while for my own interest and benefit I try to learn the local language a bit, however I can be served in restaurants shops, airport all in English with no problem. At least for now English is a tool of power for these people including quebeckers. Not a sign of assimilation, or weakness. Quebeckers have a great unique identity that is perfectly capable of surviving. It is the few who blame others for their problems that resort to this as a cause for their lack of success, while at the same time ensuring their own stagnation.
Mont Tremblant is nice...it has an associated Casino...I want it kept in Ontario.
And we rename it
'Tremble Mountan'
And we rename it
'Tremble Mountan'
The BQ just changed names to the NDP... at least in Quebec. Jack Layton was really gifted at being two faced about it and having everyone believe him. Why do you think he always had that smirk/shit eating grin.Keep in mind in the last federal election, the BQ was decimated.
the Sherbrooke Declaration.
Never heard of it? You’re not alone. Few NDP policies have been less publicized in English Canada. Adopted in 2005, the policy document was part and parcel of the NDP’s mating dance with Quebec. “The NDP would recognize a majority decision (50 per cent + 1) of the Quebec people in the event of a referendum,” it states. “The NDP recognizes as well that the right to self-determination implies that the [Quebec National Assembly] is able to write a referendum question and that the citizens of Quebec are able to answer it freely.”
For the NDP, the Sherbrooke Declaration represented a major, if unheralded, change of heart. Five years earlier, NDP MPs had voted to support Jean Chrétien’s Clarity Act, federal legislation that grants Parliament the power to decide whether a referendum question—and a potential “yes” majority—are sufficiently clear to give the Quebec government a mandate to negotiate secession.
After all that, why even bother with a BQ, the NDP pretty much gives Quebec everything the separatists could want from the its MPs in Ottawa.
50%+1 is pretty nutty for something major like forming a new country. Are you going to switch back next week if 1 person changes his mind?
I would put in a link, but even a small chance to give Blackrock a coronary is worth not bothering.
Actually, Quebec and Canada have a special deal on immigration - http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/laws-policy/agreements/quebec/can-que.aspImmigration is federal , but be that as it may, my own experience is that racism is no worse in Montreal than in Toronto but outside of the city Quebecers are sadly the biggest racists in Canada.
It was nice to see that Marois' pandering to the bigots didn't get her a majority though.
They get to have "special" everything. Jeez.Actually, Quebec and Canada have a special deal on immigration - http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/laws-policy/agreements/quebec/can-que.asp
That's Crescent St. not St. Catherine. Still holds true today as far as I know.When I was going to university in Montreal 20 years (+) back, English speaking people drank on St. Catherine Street and French people drank on St. Denis Street. Even the drinking places were segregated.
While I agree, in part it is because Old City Quebec is heavily dependant upon Anglophone tourists. But I agree that attempting to speak in French is vastly better than adopting an “but of course you speak English” attitude. My experience is that almost always particularly anyone under 40, their English is vastly superior to my French and just to spare their ears they will switch the conversation into English.Oddly I've not had such problems. I was in Quebec City twice this summer, spoke some French (not too fluently at all) and had French people switch to English - and they were all really nice.
In the 80's and 90's things were a lot more tense language wise. However this asshole who did the shooting will set things back severely
Also Massman there is a HUGE difference between attitudes in tourist Old City Ville de Québec, also the "Neutral Zone in Montreal" and rural Québec such as the North Shore or the Gaspé.
Is Winston Churchill Pub still there? How about TGIF (Thank Goodness It is Friday)?That's Crescent St. not St. Catherine. Still holds true today as far as I know.
Does Muclair or Marios know this. It would appear a waste of money, if another party has already done your workThe BQ just changed names to the NDP... at least in Quebec. Jack Layton was really gifted at being two faced about it and having everyone believe him. Why do you think he always had that smirk/shit eating grin.
the Sherbrooke Declaration.
Never heard of it? You’re not alone. Few NDP policies have been less publicized in English Canada. Adopted in 2005, the policy document was part and parcel of the NDP’s mating dance with Quebec. “The NDP would recognize a majority decision (50 per cent + 1) of the Quebec people in the event of a referendum,” it states. “The NDP recognizes as well that the right to self-determination implies that the [Quebec National Assembly] is able to write a referendum question and that the citizens of Quebec are able to answer it freely.”
For the NDP, the Sherbrooke Declaration represented a major, if unheralded, change of heart. Five years earlier, NDP MPs had voted to support Jean Chrétien’s Clarity Act, federal legislation that grants Parliament the power to decide whether a referendum question—and a potential “yes” majority—are sufficiently clear to give the Quebec government a mandate to negotiate secession.
After all that, why even bother with a BQ, the NDP pretty much gives Quebec everything the separatists could want from the its MPs in Ottawa.
50%+1 is pretty nutty for something major like forming a new country. Are you going to switch back next week if 1 person changes his mind?
I would put in a link, but even a small chance to give Blackrock a coronary is worth not bothering.
How are you actually defining 'Markham'? Something tells me you're wrong, again.A Markham could never exist in Quebec.
A large community where the majority of the residents print brochures in a language other than French.How are you actually defining 'Markham'? Something tells me you're wrong, again.
There were a lot of bars on St, Catherine street too. Also quite a few on the side street of St. Catherine Street from Atwater to University Street.That's Crescent St. not St. Catherine. Still holds true today as far as I know.
Last time I looked it was still there but evolved into something quite different that what I knew it as. I never did any drugs but I was once a Olympic caliber drinker before the age of 25.Is Winston Churchill Pub still there? How about TGIF (Thank Goodness It is Friday)?
Most people call it Winnies.
