I'm at the point where I'm tired of phoney relationships and using women for sex, but at the same time I know statistically, if I get married and have children then we are likely to divorce. At the same time, the only time I've been blissfully happy and excited in life was in a relationship that I thought was going to endure. Of course feelings change quickly (and they did on her end). I've never been in a relationship that lasted more than 6 months. Some people seem to be naturally suited for having successful long term relationships, some people go from one relationship to another, and eventually one marriage to another.
how many here are single with no kids at 40+
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I also find that very many of the topics on this board are about 'giving in' to your wife. I also see it in the relationships of friends and relatives that surround me.
It's me that doesn't get it when I see it. A man has to be that: A Man not a dishrag. Women don't respect weakness even in a man they care for.
You are in charge of whatever relationship you have with any woman. That's why we are males: Providers and Protectors.
A woman has all of my affection, consideration and respect but ultimately, someone has to take charge and that will be me.
It's me that doesn't get it when I see it. A man has to be that: A Man not a dishrag. Women don't respect weakness even in a man they care for.
You are in charge of whatever relationship you have with any woman. That's why we are males: Providers and Protectors.
A woman has all of my affection, consideration and respect but ultimately, someone has to take charge and that will be me.
Overall it is 50%, but it seems they use a goofy way to calculate it.
If you separate out the 2nd/3rd divorcees, then the rate is lower. If you account for education, then it's even lower.
And if you account for people who have not divorced but are miserable in their marriage, what would be left?
Interesting thread.
I'm in my mid 40's and never been married and have no kids. (Truth be told, I was always interested in having kids, but the timing was never right. When I was with a woman who wanted kids, that little voice in my head said, "don't do it, you'll regret it" (And the voice was correct.) On another occassion, I was with a woman that I cared very much about and would have wanted to have kids, but she was unable.) Now, it's closing in on "too late".
I have had long term relationships, lived with one for 5 years (was with her for a total of 7 or so) and lived with one other for a shorter period. In fact, I've pretty much always had a girlfriend all of the time since I was 19. Yeah, there are periods when I have been single, but they are relatively brief. Yeah, I've hobbied when I was attached and when I was single, though when I've been in a happy relationship, it pretty much drops to 0. And yes, I've cheated with civilians as well. It's a long story.
Am I lonely?
Seldomly.
I have a wide circle of friends and half of them are single, or if they are attached, they are not inprisoned in the marriage.
I don't really like the concept of marriage for one reason - it's too hard and too expensive to get out of. We've all seen guys reduced to eating alpo out of a can living in a basement apartment in Parkdale where you constantly have to duck to avoid banging your head. At my age, the thought of getting wiped out financially is not very appealing. I would prefer to simply live in sin with a woman who I cared about. If they reformed the divorce laws in Canada, I would be more agreeable with the idea of getting married because I know that most marriages either end, or should end.
If I look at my married friends, many have gotten divorced, some are in completely miserable relationships and should get divorced, but for economic reasons usually, they stay together. In fact, when I look at it, I don't know a single couple that I would say is truly happy. Not one.
My sister is in a marriage where it is completely miserable. He's a good guy and all, but it's come to the point where he has a hair-line trigger on his temper. The littlest thing sends him orbital My sister would love to leave. I have encouraged her to leave in fact. She's scared to. Her marriage is like most that I see. Miserable and stuck. She said something to me the other day, she said, "If I ever get divorced, I will never get married again"
I love my freedom, I do what I want when I want. I have my own house, cars, work, girlfriends and a couple of pets to keep my company that offer more loyalty than any human ever would. So yeah, I"m quite happy with my life the way it is.
I'm in my mid 40's and never been married and have no kids. (Truth be told, I was always interested in having kids, but the timing was never right. When I was with a woman who wanted kids, that little voice in my head said, "don't do it, you'll regret it" (And the voice was correct.) On another occassion, I was with a woman that I cared very much about and would have wanted to have kids, but she was unable.) Now, it's closing in on "too late".
I have had long term relationships, lived with one for 5 years (was with her for a total of 7 or so) and lived with one other for a shorter period. In fact, I've pretty much always had a girlfriend all of the time since I was 19. Yeah, there are periods when I have been single, but they are relatively brief. Yeah, I've hobbied when I was attached and when I was single, though when I've been in a happy relationship, it pretty much drops to 0. And yes, I've cheated with civilians as well. It's a long story.
Am I lonely?
Seldomly.
I have a wide circle of friends and half of them are single, or if they are attached, they are not inprisoned in the marriage.
I don't really like the concept of marriage for one reason - it's too hard and too expensive to get out of. We've all seen guys reduced to eating alpo out of a can living in a basement apartment in Parkdale where you constantly have to duck to avoid banging your head. At my age, the thought of getting wiped out financially is not very appealing. I would prefer to simply live in sin with a woman who I cared about. If they reformed the divorce laws in Canada, I would be more agreeable with the idea of getting married because I know that most marriages either end, or should end.
If I look at my married friends, many have gotten divorced, some are in completely miserable relationships and should get divorced, but for economic reasons usually, they stay together. In fact, when I look at it, I don't know a single couple that I would say is truly happy. Not one.
My sister is in a marriage where it is completely miserable. He's a good guy and all, but it's come to the point where he has a hair-line trigger on his temper. The littlest thing sends him orbital My sister would love to leave. I have encouraged her to leave in fact. She's scared to. Her marriage is like most that I see. Miserable and stuck. She said something to me the other day, she said, "If I ever get divorced, I will never get married again"
I love my freedom, I do what I want when I want. I have my own house, cars, work, girlfriends and a couple of pets to keep my company that offer more loyalty than any human ever would. So yeah, I"m quite happy with my life the way it is.
Agree, good points captain Kirk! I luv my freedom too.
For all those guys who think they are King, until their wife gets home.
Walking into the bar, Mike said to Charlie the bartender,
"Pour me a stiff one - just had another fight with the little woman."
"Oh yeah?" said Charlie. "And how did this one end?"
"When it was over," Mike replied, "she came to me on her hands
and knees."
"Really? Now that's a switch! What did she say?"
She said, "Come out from under the bed, you chicken-shit."
hahahahaha
For me, I just got to an age in the lower 30s where starting a family was something I wanted to explore. I was living in my parents' basement at a time (they live in a 5 bedroom 3500 sq ft house in North York), and paying no rent at all (they are wealthy and bought the house in cash). I had a crappy job and made about 45k-50k at the time. Every year I was saving 30 K, and did whatever I wanted. Things were good, but I wanted to experience having children of my own, and helping them to solve this riddle of life and enjoy themselves.
I've been married with the coolest 4 year old boy for 5 years now. Wouldn't trade things for the world. My pay has gone up to low 60K range, but money is nowhere as abundant as before living with the folks. I don't have much time for myself, and the wife can be a pain (as every woman can be). I miss a lot of things I had in the single life and the stakes have been raised. There are times I wish for a stress free life back at my parents' place, but overall I am satisfied.
It is understandable not to want to marry. I would have another 100K in the bank account, and would have enjoyed many enjoyable sex vacations in South America and throughout the world. Oh well...most of us won't have it all. At work one of my friends got married this October, seperated by January, and divorced in April. Spent 40K on that wedding. Another workmate's wife had an affair during a trip home and is leaving him and their 2 year old. Marriage can be torture.
I've been married with the coolest 4 year old boy for 5 years now. Wouldn't trade things for the world. My pay has gone up to low 60K range, but money is nowhere as abundant as before living with the folks. I don't have much time for myself, and the wife can be a pain (as every woman can be). I miss a lot of things I had in the single life and the stakes have been raised. There are times I wish for a stress free life back at my parents' place, but overall I am satisfied.
It is understandable not to want to marry. I would have another 100K in the bank account, and would have enjoyed many enjoyable sex vacations in South America and throughout the world. Oh well...most of us won't have it all. At work one of my friends got married this October, seperated by January, and divorced in April. Spent 40K on that wedding. Another workmate's wife had an affair during a trip home and is leaving him and their 2 year old. Marriage can be torture.
I was married and divorced in my twenties. That was 30+ years ago. Eight years ago, I met a terrific woman, and we were together for three years before she passed away. My marriage was a disaster from day one, but my common law relationship, well it was a piece of heaven. So for most of my adult life I have been single and living alone. This changed about three years ago. A good friend, single Mom, was dying from cancer and asked me to become guardian to her two kids, 12 and 15 at the time. I agreed and the kids moved in.
OMG, has this changed everything in my life. They eat me out of house and home. They think that they have a say in everything, including the final say. They think I am a 24/7 taxi service. They have friends coming over right now, so I am BBQ guy for ten, eleven if they let me stay, and then, apparently, I am taking them all to the movies. And so on and so on. I plan to see escorts anywhere from 1-3 weeks ahead of time. This is due to a variety of reasons, work etc. but I start the process by checking their plans. How did my life come to this!!! But this is one of the best parts of my life and I am glad that I took them on. But I did not expect to become “Daddy” Celticman at my age. Perhaps I am having the best of all worlds. At least I never had to change diapers!! Oh, and we all have our own computers and mine is Cmos password protected and login password protected
OMG, has this changed everything in my life. They eat me out of house and home. They think that they have a say in everything, including the final say. They think I am a 24/7 taxi service. They have friends coming over right now, so I am BBQ guy for ten, eleven if they let me stay, and then, apparently, I am taking them all to the movies. And so on and so on. I plan to see escorts anywhere from 1-3 weeks ahead of time. This is due to a variety of reasons, work etc. but I start the process by checking their plans. How did my life come to this!!! But this is one of the best parts of my life and I am glad that I took them on. But I did not expect to become “Daddy” Celticman at my age. Perhaps I am having the best of all worlds. At least I never had to change diapers!! Oh, and we all have our own computers and mine is Cmos password protected and login password protected
Don't think I'd ever get married again, but statistics show that married men live longer. It just depends whether the extra years is worth the extra aggravation a man has to endure.
I'm single and middle age, no kids, etc. Heck thou, if some nice looking gal who makes $100,000 a year wanted to marry me, geee, I believe I might, lol
I think these guys who say their wife bosses them around just kissed butt too often to get ahead. Sure it work, she did marry you but now what - was it really worth it ?
Same with careers, I know guys who work in a dirty auto shop and they seem happy and then I know of office workers with fancy degrees who earn good money - $100,000 a year but are filing bankruptcy due to overspending and bad investments. They don't seem all that happy either last time I was around.
I think these guys who say their wife bosses them around just kissed butt too often to get ahead. Sure it work, she did marry you but now what - was it really worth it ?
Same with careers, I know guys who work in a dirty auto shop and they seem happy and then I know of office workers with fancy degrees who earn good money - $100,000 a year but are filing bankruptcy due to overspending and bad investments. They don't seem all that happy either last time I was around.
That 45 year old guy is going to be me someday. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
Guys, have you ever noticed that as soon as you get married and have kids, all the women you ever wanted start hitting on you? Where were these women when you were single?
thats because you look more desireable when they see you with a woman. Cuz they;re thinking that girl is lucky to have a catch like you wishing they were married to a great guy.
This is why i often take my wing woman friend to bars. i find that i get more smiles and eye contact when they see me with her. Then i break away from my wing woman and go in for the kill and bullshit and say she's my sister. Works everytime.
Women for some reason are more attracted to you when they see you with other women. I guess women are catty and whispering "i'm hotter than she is" or "what does she have that i don't"
So guys.........take a female friend to the bar. Works for Troops
I was married and divorced in my twenties. That was 30+ years ago. Eight years ago, I met a terrific woman, and we were together for three years before she passed away. My marriage was a disaster from day one, but my common law relationship, well it was a piece of heaven. So for most of my adult life I have been single and living alone. This changed about three years ago. A good friend, single Mom, was dying from cancer and asked me to become guardian to her two kids, 12 and 15 at the time. I agreed and the kids moved in.
OMG, has this changed everything in my life. They eat me out of house and home. They think that they have a say in everything, including the final say. They think I am a 24/7 taxi service. They have friends coming over right now, so I am BBQ guy for ten, eleven if they let me stay, and then, apparently, I am taking them all to the movies. And so on and so on. I plan to see escorts anywhere from 1-3 weeks ahead of time. This is due to a variety of reasons, work etc. but I start the process by checking their plans. How did my life come to this!!! But this is one of the best parts of my life and I am glad that I took them on. But I did not expect to become “Daddy” Celticman at my age. Perhaps I am having the best of all worlds. At least I never had to change diapers!! Oh, and we all have our own computers and mine is Cmos password protected and login password protected
Very commendable of you brother taking on someon elses 2 teens
