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Shooting at Wisconsin Sikh temple - hostages inside

frankcastle

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Yes, it's low, it's not something I worry about. Unless, of course, you're black and living in one of the gang-ridden areas. Then it's perhaps not so low.
Oh come on even then it's not so bad. Yes a good kid gets caught in the cross fire but typically that's not how it plays out. Now if he is black, has gang ties and spends significant time in certain neighbourhoods then yes he better be ready to duck.

When I talk about how many white serial/mass killers there are you dismiss it as obvious since there are more whites. Well aren't your comments about urban blacks obvious as well? I mean you narrow your scope down to urban centres and then further focus things to gang killings is it a shock that it comes up as blacks being the highest?

This is just one of many examples of where when things suit you, you use it and when they don't you dismiss it.
 

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Except when that argument falls apart and then he blames African blacks.
Who are not in this conversation. Let alone the group of focus in other threads; those whose culture originates in the Caribbean. Anyone else see the fallacy in his argument/logic in grouping Sikhs, Muslims, and peoples from the Caribbean; let alone Jamaica and other parts of the Caribbean?
 

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Funny that the guy who defends Omar Khadr as being unjustly accused paints the people of Muslim East Africa as Al Queda.
I did no such thing. Shame on you.

It is correct and factual to point out that several hate crime shootings have been by people from those counties, in fact the Al Qaeda connection means they are over represented among hate crime shooters, but that by no means implies that all or most people from there are Al Qaeda. That is just an absurdly stupid thing to say.

Moreover it is Canadian rights and American democracy that are in peril at Gitmo. I could care less about Omar Khadr, but I care a great deal about the rule of law. It is a low mind that thinks through issues in terms of personalities rather than principles.
 

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Toke said:
Who are not in this conversation. Let alone the group of focus in other threads; those whose culture originates in the Caribbean. Anyone else see the fallacy in his argument/logic in grouping Sikhs, Muslims, and peoples from the Caribbean; let alone Jamaica and other parts of the Caribbean?
In which post did I do that? Reread and comment again once you have comprehended. If anything I have been extremely explicit in saying that street violence is not linked to hate crime.

If you can't answer my points with facts and solid argument, don't lie and smear by pretending I said something I didn't.
 

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white american terrorists are a major problem.they are armed to the teeth and have no regards for their own lives.only problem is white people continue to ignore the problem and blame it on blacks and immigrants.
 

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white american terrorists are a major problem.they are armed to the teeth and have no regards for their own lives.only problem is white people continue to ignore the problem and blame it on blacks and immigrants.
The FBI seem to take it pretty seriously. I guess you're wrong again? You can't just make these things up. You actually should have reasons for the things you think...

http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2012/may/extremism_052212
 

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Yes, but how much of that GDP was inherited from the previous administration?

Your claim was they didn't have what it takes to run a successful economy or some such idiocy, but apparently they've been able to maintain it or even improve on it. It took a dip after transfer as the people who had never been in charge for over 50 years, 2 generations, were now bosses and were learning under the gun. and were improving the economy.
 

frankcastle

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The FBI seem to take it pretty seriously. I guess you're wrong again? You can't just make these things up. You actually should have reasons for the things you think...

http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2012/may/extremism_052212
fbi only constituites some of the4 white people. I think what carling is suggesting is that the avg white sees threats as other races. No stats to back this up but let's face it when people think criminal or terrorist it typically doesn't have a white face in America...... unless we talk white collar crime, pedophiles, serial killers and mass murderers. Just pointing out the stereotypes (as you and i have already been through the discussion of the validity of those statements and I don't think either one of us has anything to add on that tangent).

point is that highlighting a government branch's view doesn't necessarily reflect the view of the nation.

furthermore, pointing out the fbi acknowledges white hate criminals means very little as they have to mention it. Otherwise, they would be viewed as racist. A real measure of how serious they take it would be to see how much funding, manpower and resources they throw at it...... not a one page blurb on the state of hate crimes by whites.
 

Carling

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The FBI seem to take it pretty seriously. I guess you're wrong again? You can't just make these things up. You actually should have reasons for the things you think...

http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2012/may/extremism_052212
no i'm not talking about the gov't but the avg white folks in the south, mid-west..or wherever...they just see indians killed in temple and applaud and cheer it, raising a budweiser in honour of their white brother...most of them want all people of colour out to their country.
 

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no i'm not talking about the gov't but the avg white folks in the south, mid-west..or wherever...they just see indians killed in temple and applaud and cheer it, raising a budweiser in honour of their white brother...most of them want all people of colour out to their country.
I think those average White folks in the South elected an ethnic East Indian as their governor.
 

Carling

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trust me this won't be the last mass murder by these supremacists....give it a week, another will happen, and we'll just move on to the next one and the next one..
 

Rockslinger

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Don't forget those Korean dudes who go into schools and shoot students. Also, during the "Rodney King Riot", Korean storekeepers threatened to shoot dead anybody (mostly Blacks) who loots their stores.
 

Carling

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Don't forget those Korean dudes who go into schools and shoot students. Also, during the "Rodney King Riot", Korean storekeepers threatened to shoot dead anybody (mostly Blacks) who loots their stores.
one korean....and if i was in my store watching thousands invade my store?...i'd shoot...it's self defense not racism
 

Rockslinger

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I can't find the original thread so I'll post it here. Apparently, James Holmes' psychiatrist did warn the police. Can the police pro-actively arrest and the courts convict someone who "might" be a mass murderer?
 

Carling

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Two Koreans at last count. No, you cannot shoot people in your store. Call the police. Didn't you see what happened to that Chinese storekeeper a couple of years ago who apprehended a shoplifter?
huh?did you see the riots?...no cops in sight..WTF would you do?..even if was koreans ivading my property, i'd still shoot..

btw both koreans were completely insane...not sure about your KKK buddies.
 
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