They are different circumstances and I have made it quite clear that I don't think there is much of a link between hate/spree killings and the street violence.Toke said:A few weeks/threads ago you defined 'black' as a culture that glamorized gangs and violence. Now you are lumping in a very culturally different group in order to make your 'research' explain a completely different set of circumstances.
You're bordering on innumeracy here. The statement is correct but you will fall off the cliff of dishonesty if you then try and make an inference that white culture is producing such people at a high rate.frankcastle said:I'm more worried about the white killers because as fuji pointed out 7/10 killers are white.
This guy is worse. He's a terrorist. Maybe such levels of hated are a sort of mental problem, but he was likely not just bonkers like the Colorado shooter.harryass said:to put it into prospective, so here we go again, another fuckn lunatic with gun
The greatest mass murder in Canadian history was the Air India bombing. It didn't make the headlines because the bomber(s) was not White.hanks for the link. I was replying to the previous poster's implied meaning.
Actually, I'm pretty sure the Air India bombing was on all the front pages when it happenedThe greatest mass murder in Canadian history was the Air India bombing. It didn't make the headlines because the bomber(s) was not White.
Sarcasm! Insert sarcasm smilely here. Directed at the poster who thinks only White people are mass murderers.It didn't make the headlines!? Wow, what a stupid, ill informed and inaccurate statement.
Apology accepted. Thanks. Let's move on.My apologies. Didn't read the whole thread to catch your POV
Ugh.... I am not saying whites make more mass murderers. I am saying there are more white mass murderers..... that is a FACT. You can try and deflect it by saying that the %age is lower than the % of whites in the population but that's a different statement.You're bordering on innumeracy here. The statement is correct but you will fall off the cliff of dishonesty if you then try and make an inference that white culture is producing such people at a high rate.
Whites produce such people at a lower rate, there are just a lot more whites.
Tragedy for sure. But does bombing a plane fall under the category of terrorist act. Also, when talking about mass murderers aren't we usually talking about one person. I thought the Air India bombing was done by a number of people not a lone person.The greatest mass murder in Canadian history was the Air India bombing. It didn't make the headlines because the bomber(s) was not White.
Specifically, the average black person is a greater threat to you than the average white person is. There are just more white people.So when it comes to mass murder in North America I am most afraid of white people.
If you have 10 killers in the room and 6 of them are white and 3 of them are black then I'd be most concerned about being killed by a white guy.Specifically, the average black person is a greater threat to you than the average white person is. There are just more white people.
(Though in the case of spree/mass/serial killings I think the difference in rate is relatively small and probably explained by socio-economic factors.)
You're not making a link? No problem I highlighted it for you. Is it cultural or merely pigmentation?They are different circumstances and I have made it quite clear that I don't think there is much of a link between hate/spree killings and the street violence.
Someone here tried to imply that whites commit most hate shootings so I pointed out that Al Qaeda linked blacks have been quite busy in that regard.
I don't think there is much of a connection between that sort of violence and the street crime shootings.
If you are afraid of White people, you can try South Africa where there is a greater chance of being killed by a Black person. Actually, you can try Foot Locker on Yonge Street or the Eaton Centre.There are more white mass murderers in north america than black mass murderers. So when it comes to mass murder in North America I am most afraid of white people.
Innumeracy. If you're at a party with 97 white guys and 3 blacks guys, and in the room there are 10 killers, 7 of them white, 3 of them black, you should worry about the black guy sitting next to you, not the white guy.If you have 10 killers in the room and 6 of them are white and 3 of them are black then I'd be most concerned about being killed by a white guy.
Two different groups of black people. In the case of the Al Qaeda linked stuff, people from predominately Muslim African countries who have links to Al Qaeda. In the case of the street gun crime, in urban Toronto, the gangster culture, which likely have few or no links to Al Qaeda. There is in fact a bit of overlap--Somali's tend to show up in both group--but in general I do not think the causes of the two different types of shootings are similar. I simply pointed out that the person who said the hate crime shootings were mostly white was wrong--there are a ton of blacks, from those Muslim African countries who are involved with Al Qaeda and are responsible for many hate crime shootings.You're not making a link? No problem I highlighted it for you. Is it cultural or merely pigmentation?
No real apology required. He has made some many poorly reasoned and ill informed comments in the past...I would not have been surprised if he actually meant that one.My apologies. Didn't read the whole thread to catch your POV
Of course those numbers don't come close to corresponding to reality and just a dishonest and simplistic way to be an attention seeking racist.Innumeracy. If you're at a party with 97 white guys and 3 blacks guys, and in the room there are 10 killers, 7 of them white, 3 of them black, you should worry about the black guy sitting next to you, not the white guy.
Should we tell FUJI that the whites guys are friends of ours, the black guys not so much. one is Winstar who won't shoot because there are too many white women who need his lovin' and the other is CM who won't because he's not finished his crusade yet, so that leaves only the one.Of course those numbers don't come close to corresponding to reality and just a dishonest and simplistic way to be an attention seeking racist.
