Penn State Fined $60 million

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On a "per incident" basis this is a much more severe penalty that what the US Courts have awarded against the Catholic church for what are easily far worse cases of systematic abuse and cover-up.


INDIANAPOLIS - The NCAA slammed Penn State with an unprecedented series of penalties Monday, including a $60 million fine and the loss of all coach Joe Paterno's victories from 1998-2011, in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal.

Other sanctions include a four-year ban on bowl games, the loss of 20 scholarships per year over four years and five years' probation. The NCAA also said that any current or incoming football players are free to immediately transfer and compete at another school.

NCAA President Mark Emmert announced the staggering sanctions at a news conference in Indianapolis. Though the NCAA stopped short of imposing the "death penalty" — shutting down the Nittany Lions' program completely — the punishment is still crippling for a team that is trying to start over with a new coach and a new outlook.
http://news.ca.msn.com/world/penn-st-fined-dollar60m-wins-vacated-from-98-22
 

blackrock13

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It's good to see. I suspect any other school that is having problems will decide not to keep ignoring them.
 

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Glad to see it, I think it is fair, especially the loss of their wins. I wish they could nail the catholic church too, IMHO a very large majority of priests are pedophiles and it has to be stopped somehow.
 

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While we all know that what has been done, cannot be undone, these penalties should send the proper message to all NCAA programs looking to cover-up criminal activities on campus.
 

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Glad to see it, I think it is fair, especially the loss of their wins. I wish they could nail the catholic church too, IMHO a very large majority of priests are pedophiles and it has to be stopped somehow.
If by "very large majority" you meant about 4% you would be right.

But you would not be speaking English.
 

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On a "per incident" basis this is a much more severe penalty that what the US Courts have awarded against the Catholic church for what are easily far worse cases of systematic abuse and cover-up.




http://news.ca.msn.com/world/penn-st-fined-dollar60m-wins-vacated-from-98-22
I don't know how you do your math on a per incident basis.

Anyways the whole thing is strange. The NCAA usually issues punishments for NCAA rules violations. I wonder where there jurisdiction for this punishment comes from. And it was odd that they issued it without waiting for the response to Penn State's questions.
 

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Staff and Management at Penn State knew about this for over a decade and did nothing. The school should be torn down and anyone involved arrested and thrown in jail !

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they should get the "death penalty" ( not the real death penalty, but a cease of all football related activities)...60 million , though alot of money, is a drop in the bucket fot a big school like Penn State..
 

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Staff and Management at Penn State knew about this for over a decade and did nothing. The school should be torn down and anyone involved arrested and thrown in jail !

BS
Another over the top post from BS. Just be glad he's not in charge.
 

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Staff and Management at Penn State knew about this for over a decade and did nothing. The school should be torn down and anyone involved arrested and thrown in jail !

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Should the Penn justice system suffer the same fate due to the prosecuter's failure to charge in the late 90's? What about the police officers who knew?

You sure have a bizarre idea of justice. I bet you and your friends look good with pitch forks and torches.
 

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they should get the "death penalty" ( not the real death penalty, but a cease of all football related activities)...60 million , though alot of money, is a drop in the bucket fot a big school like Penn State..
this is actually way more severe than the death penalty, because of the loss of scholarships they will be weak for years, no talented players will want to go there knowing that they will never get a chance to play in a major bowl game.
 

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Should the Penn justice system suffer the same fate due to the prosecuter's failure to charge in the late 90's? What about the police officers who knew?

You sure have a bizarre idea of justice. I bet you and your friends look good with pitch forks and torches.
This is what came to mind first after your post;


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Should the Penn justice system suffer the same fate due to the prosecuter's failure to charge in the late 90's? What about the police officers who knew?

You sure have a bizarre idea of justice. I bet you and your friends look good with pitch forks and torches.
One would have to guess that, in fairness, the careers of that prosecutor and police officers should be similarly deminished.

I actually don't agree with this entirely, I'd much rather see the individuals who perpetrated this punished, rather than just the institution, and I'd like some of the fines to go to the victims and not the NCAA. The money going to the NCAA makes no sense, why should they profit from this.
 

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this is actually way more severe than the death penalty, because of the loss of scholarships they will be weak for years, no talented players will want to go there knowing that they will never get a chance to play in a major bowl game.
yeah missed that part...i guess this is pretty much the death penalty...damn all the victories are a washed out of the books! NCAA did well i suppose.
 

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I think setting the penalty at a single year's football revenue is moderate given this happened over a decade.... I was hoping they would suspend the program for some period of time (thus removing the revenue) to send their message.....

This in no way impedes criminal or civil court action. This is a penalty on the program and university.

I don't often say this but well done NCAA

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blackrock13

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One would have to guess that, in fairness, the careers of that prosecutor and police officers should be similarly deminished.

I actually don't agree with this entirely, I'd much rather see the individuals who perpetrated this punished and I'd like some of the fines to go to the victims and not the NCAA. The money going there makes no sense.
I believe there are some monetary fine/rewards going to victims/groups but not the individual victims.
 

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seems a stretch for the ncaa to be enforcing child molestation laws. what about rape? what about violations not sex related? then i saw that all the executive members are from other universities. ok.
 

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I would like to see everyone who had knowledge of the abuse and did nothing but cover it up, do some jail time. I'm glad they've removed Paterno's statue as well. Then again, maybe they should have left the statue and changed the plaque to read. "Joe Paterno, knew of the sexual abuse of boys over a 15 year period but did nothing to stop it" as a reminder of his true legacy.

I can't believe how much support this guy still has. Yeah, he built a legacy like few others, but how can you see this guy as a great man when he turned a blind eye to years of sexual abuse at Penn State. Pathetic individual IMHO.
 

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Wow, this is huge, I'm still getting my head around all the implications. Imagine if you're a Penn State student now? How will the public view you and your credentials when you graduate soon? It will be years before the school gets back on its feet. The pundits are already debating this and have extreme views, on both sides.
 

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Wow, this is huge, I'm still getting my head around all the implications. Imagine if you're a Penn State student now? How will the public view you and your credentials when you graduate soon? It will be years before the school gets back on its feet. The pundits are already debating this and have extreme views, on both sides.
If you are coming out of there with a science degree or something, I don't think it will have much practical impact. But for the football program it is huge. And what will really impact the university are the civil suits.
 
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