Ford's New Clarion Call: It's all about Casinos, that's it"

Anbarandy

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Toronto Star March 12, 2012

Royson James City columnist


The city hall lunch counter attendant didn’t hesitate before she answered the one-word question on Monday. Casinos?

“No,” she said. “That’s a crocodile waiting to swallow all your money.”

That may be the reflex reaction in much of Toronto today, but the hypothetical has suddenly become possible thanks to announced plans that the Ontario Lottery and Gaming Corporation wants to locate a casino somewhere in the GTA, so long as there’s a willing host.

Now, will we know how Torontonians really feel about gambling in their back yard? Can the cash-strapped city resist the promise of big payoffs? Can the mayor resist embracing gambling as a way to pay for his unfunded subways?

So, cue another contentious debate at Toronto city hall. Dust off the many downtown vs. suburbs storylines. Watch for Vaughan, the pushy city above Toronto, to try and one-up the big city and grab all the promised economic development benefits.

And through it all, imagine the conflict between those who see dollar signs and those who fear the social costs of crime, prostitution, destroyed families and the unholy seduction of the poor to pay for services the middle class refuses to fund.

You knew the casino goddess would show up soon enough, a malignant mistress bathed in addictive perfume, promising tourism, jobs, profits, economic development and a solution to all our money woes.

Paul Godfrey, the peripatetic promoter, played the pimp on Monday, his presentation bordering on incredulity.

Imagine an extra $4.6 billion added to the provincial treasury in the next six years, Godfrey said. By 2017, OLG’s annual $2 billion payout to the province will jump by an extra $1.3 billion. Do nothing and revenues will drop more than $100 million a year, he said.

Then, he blew over the top, claiming the new era of gambling greatness would be a “great job creator,” would “increase tourism to a great degree” and be a source of “great community pride.”

Can’t you see residents across the GTA wearing those “I love my casino” buttons, pleading with city council to bring one to the local mall?

Downtown councillors recently voted against such an idea, a vote that aims to prevent the gaming facility from going to a natural site, Ontario Place. But, alas, the decision would rest with the main city council, not community council.

If communities want it, they can have it, says Councillor Adam Vaughan. “We don’t want it in the downtown. It sterilizes all operations around it. There’s a little bit of money left on the table for the city, but then there’s the police costs; suicide rates jump, and there’s a bankrupting and decimation of small, on-street businesses and the commercial district.”

Councillor Maria Augimeri knows that Downsview Park in her ward is always on the list of desirable casino sites. Her reaction?

“Over my dead body. I see nothing but bad news from casinos. They’re just bad for the human soul. So many families end up in pain — prostitution, the drug trade, good planning goes out the window, traffic congestion.

“You can put a nice Easter bonnet on a pig, but it’s still a pig. If Scarborough wants it, they can have it.”

Indeed, the Scarborough community council is on record as wanting to explore a casino for Scarborough.

Etobicoke? Well, Councillor Doug Ford has said he would welcome one in Ward 2. Councillor Giorgio Mammoliti has always favoured one. Deputy Mayor Doug Holyday said it’s a good source of funds for a subway.

So, between Etobicoke (at Woodbine race track) and Scarborough (don’t even think Guild Inn), Toronto may have sites to compete with Vaughan and Richmond Hill and Brampton and Mississauga and Pickering. . .

“Any time someone promises you easy money, you are about to be had,” Vaughan warns.

But who’d sneeze at easy money?



I can just here Robbie now: "Everywhere I go, everyone I see, everyone I talk to, they all now say, 'I want a casino'."
 

omegaphallic

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The closet I get to gambling is roll up the rim to win. I don't like losing my money and getting nothing in return.

Still I while I'm not a fan of this idea, it sounds close enough Toronto will be fucked by it no matter what so as the Escorts say, if your going to be fucked anyway, you might as well as get payed for it.
 

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The city will see next to fuck all, and probably add to their costs due to increased welfare and other social assistance services due to gambling addiction - The Liberals need cash and are willing to sell their souls to the devil to get it. McGuinty doesn't give a rat's ass that another casino will destroy countless families.

Ford and the boys can only wage a war of publicity to get as much as they can for the city, because the Liberals are hoping to score as much as possible from this venture. The casino is coming folks, so back your municipal government in trying to get as big a slice of the pie as possible to help pay for the social costs from this venture.

Bitter housewife - Your anti-Ford rant is useless in this scenario. This is a provincial money-grab from your friendly liberal provincial government.
 

babyfinsta

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On top of yo mama!
i dont see the issue with a casino as long as its not downtown. put it in a more industrial area. Woodbine race track is the best location. they have the land and easy access from highway.
 
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Anbarandy

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i dont see the issue with a casino as long as its not downtown. put it in a more industrial area. Woodbine race track is the best location. they have the land and easy access from highway.
Plop it smack dab in the middle of Hellbridge. As Doug The Thug says, just throw a few tables and chairs in there.
 

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While I think it's very strange for a gov't to be positioning a casino as a revenue source, it should be in downtown (waterfront) or woodbine track. while they're rewriting the rules, let's close the casinos on indian land and open them up in proper towns. i'd also like to see a rule that they must have good buffets.
 

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Well, after 3 months of one-a-days I'm just glad we are off the subway topic.
 

fmahovalich

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For gawds sakes...the gambling addict already has ready access to gambling all over this province, and they take advantage of buses etc to get there.....Port Perry, Woodbine, Elora, Innisfil, Orillia, Brantford, Niagara, Buffalo


I do Vegas every two years...perhaps Niagara every two years...so don't have that 'bug' to excessively gamble.

But if I did, like the rest of the addicts already, I would find a way to get there each and every day like they do now.

Look at it this way...there would be GREEN savings if a casino was in Toronto...we would not be running these big diesel smoky buses all over the province.

An addict will always find the fix!!
 

blackrock13

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For gawds sakes...the gambling addict already has ready access to gambling all over this province, and they take advantage of buses etc to get there.....Port Perry, Woodbine, Elora, Innisfil, Orillia, Brantford, Niagara, Buffalo


I do Vegas every two years...perhaps Niagara every two years...so don't have that 'bug' to excessively gamble.

But if I did, like the rest of the addicts already, I would find a way to get there each and every day like they do now.

Look at it this way...there would be GREEN savings if a casino was in Toronto...we would not be running these big diesel smoky buses all over the province.

An addict will always find the fix!!
One word 'taxes'. Nothing more.
 

oldjones

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If we must have a Casino, it should be in the same block as the homes of the pols who say we must have it.

Prohibition may not work, but please could someone explain how increasing the amount of dollars spent on gambling benefits us as a whole? If it's just the same dollars but spent easier in places closer by, how does that improve anything for anyone? Excerpt the gamblers? In any case from what I can see, the most important location consideration is acres of available land we can pave for parking lots. There's some uranium-contaminated land in Port Hope that's a good bet. So to speak.

Mind you, using the air-rights over the sixteen passengers a day Bessarion Station on the Sheppard subway might let Rob at last score a small win in Subway Keno.
 

Anbarandy

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And I say why not...All the Torontonians take these tax dollars to outer communities already.

Might as well keep it here and get some transit in place!
Yes, this could fund an extension of the Eglinton aboveground LRT right to The Hellbridge Casino-Rama placed smack dab across from Rob's house.

Imagine that. Imagine the view. Imagine his delight. Trolley after excruciatingly slow trolley noisily screeching and clanging along in front of his house disgorging hordes of taxpayers looking to strike it rich.
 

blackrock13

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And I say why not...All the Torontonians take these tax dollars to outer communities already.

Might as well keep it here and get some transit in place!
if you could fid some way to have only those who can afford it gamble go for it, but unfortunately many whose lives are regularly ruined go to casino. Now they won't have to travel so far.
 

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While they are at it, why not sell heroine at these casinos? Any moral distinction is false and insincere......it's about $$$$$$$$$$$ at any social cost, and shows what desperate shape our governments have gotten the economy into.
 
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