How many of you GAVE UP on dating figuring your just too undesirable to women?

afterhours

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The only difference between Sex for money and Sex for free is that Sex for money is cheaper!!!!!
sex for free is more expensive but it's pretty much the only way to get kids :frown:
 

The Fox

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" rock star" What you mean by that? In reality, barely have enough time for escorts because you got so many fans, groupies. OR in reality, a legend in your own mind. Much time at home or striking out & calling escorts. :Eek:
Partyman1970 – I don’t know you, all I am saying is stop finding excuses. Everyone on here has tried to support you and offer comments to build your confidence and you have shot them all down.
You need to live up to your name partyman, take baby steps but you need to improve your ‘self image’ because that is the real issue. It has nothing to do with weight, height etc. Learn to like yourself bro, you CAN do it.
 

Wizard Merlin

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BANG on!

I get hit on all the time, it gets annoying and most of the time I don't even acknowledge men.I know what they all want and I ain't giving it up.

BUT there are very few instances where I've been super attracted to a man before he even spoke (acting cool and not gawking or burning holes in my ass with your eyes is attractive, if you seem to not even notice me in a room, I want to know why..and everytime I have wanted to know why a man wasn't staring at me like all the rest, I found out why, he knew how to play the game.he wanted it but didn't want me to know... damn that's hot.) , NO need to be driving a nice car, be tall,muscular, or even all that attractive- attraction goes way beyond the surface for me...and for most women.

What is the ultimate turn on->Humour, honesty, intelligence, being nice and confidence !!!

If a man can make me laugh, spark my interest with his intellect, is comfortable and confidant with himself --but not arrogant , is honest, even brutally is ok as long as youre honest with a sense of humour, I love good honestly.. and is friendly without being over baring or desperate ..nerdy friendly is not cool... be confidant!!!

also... my advise to men is to NEVER make a comment on a woman's looks the first time you meet her.

This may be just for me but look, I get men telling me i'm hot etc every.single.day. Give me something else!! Show me you're not a pig like the rest (even though I know you're thinking sex lol) act like you're not, like your're interested in ME, my eyes, my voice,my job, something. just not my looks. If a man says something pertaining to my looks the first time we meet; game over
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But after the 1st time we meet, don't ever stop saying how gorgeous I am HAHAHA chicks are whack huh?
There's some ubiquitous honesty in your post.

It takes some men a life time to garner the tools to lure a fine woman. It's the subtle intangibles that need to be played out to become successful. And for that you have to have a lot of confidence and some game.

However, in order to build confidence you have to have had some early success. It's like a catch 22 scenario.

Also with escorts, even though you're guaranteed to getting laid, if you play your cards right, you'll get some crazy high mileage from some of the hottest in the lot.
 

blackrock13

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There's some ubiquitous honesty in your post.

It takes some men a life time to garner the tools to lure a fine woman. It's the subtle intangibles that need to be played out to become successful. And for that you have to have a lot of confidence and some game.

However, in order to build confidence you have to have had some early success. It's like a catch 22 scenario.

Also with escorts, even though you're guaranteed to getting laid, if you play your cards right, you'll get some crazy high mileage from some of the hottest in the lot.
Stop trying so hard, luring? Yes a Catch-22, you need experience to be good, but need to be good to continue getting experience. It's no guarantee with the SPs and MPAs. How many have kicked a few a-holes out and banned them.
 

The Fox

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Blackrock13, that might be the case but has no bearing with my request for clarification of " rock star" imaginary or actuality.
I’m no real rock star brother. I just live my life as if I’m the coolest person on the planet. I was popular at school, dated some of the hottest women (not just in my eyes) I have a lot of friends and I take no shit from anyone yet I’m a gentleman with everyone (unless they piss me off). I have a very well paid job also.

I have all this in spite of being brought up extremely poor, being short, I’m now bald (genetics give me a break….) and a lot of other traits you find as a barrier.

I’m not here to gloat, I just got tired of you not seeing that people were trying to help you.

Go make it happen because you can.
 

Wizard Merlin

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Stop trying so hard, luring? Yes a Catch-22, you need experience to be good, but need to be good to continue getting experience. It's no guarantee with the SPs and MPAs. How many have kicked a few a-holes out and banned them.
That's the point, if you know how to play it, you don't have to try so hard.
 

Big Michael

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BANG on!

I get hit on all the time, it gets annoying and most of the time I don't even acknowledge men.I know what they all want and I ain't giving it up.

BUT there are very few instances where I've been super attracted to a man before he even spoke (acting cool and not gawking or burning holes in my ass with your eyes is attractive, if you seem to not even notice me in a room, I want to know why..and everytime I have wanted to know why a man wasn't staring at me like all the rest, I found out why, he knew how to play the game.he wanted it but didn't want me to know... damn that's hot.) , NO need to be driving a nice car, be tall,muscular, or even all that attractive- attraction goes way beyond the surface for me...and for most women.

What is the ultimate turn on->Humour, honesty, intelligence, being nice and confidence !!!

If a man can make me laugh, spark my interest with his intellect, is comfortable and confidant with himself --but not arrogant , is honest, even brutally is ok as long as youre honest with a sense of humour, I love good honestly.. and is friendly without being over baring or desperate ..nerdy friendly is not cool... be confidant!!!

also... my advise to men is to NEVER make a comment on a woman's looks the first time you meet her.

This may be just for me but look, I get men telling me i'm hot etc every.single.day. Give me something else!! Show me you're not a pig like the rest (even though I know you're thinking sex lol) act like you're not, like your're interested in ME, my eyes, my voice,my job, something. just not my looks. If a man says something pertaining to my looks the first time we meet; game over
.
But after the 1st time we meet, don't ever stop saying how gorgeous I am HAHAHA chicks are whack huh?
So true but PM ain't listening. Your next career move could be a "Professional Wingman for Guys" or "Intructor on How to Pick-up Girls".
 

blackrock13

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I’m no real rock star brother. I just live my life as if I’m the coolest person on the planet. I was popular at school, dated some of the hottest women (not just in my eyes) I have a lot of friends and I take no shit from anyone yet I’m a gentleman with everyone (unless they piss me off). I have a very well paid job also.

I have all this in spite of being brought up extremely poor, being short, I’m now bald (genetics give me a break….) and a lot of other traits you find as a barrier.

I’m not here to gloat, I just got tired of you not seeing that people were trying to help you.

Go make it happen because you can.

.........and then you woke up. Just joshin'.
 

afterhours

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" rock star" What you mean by that? In reality, barely have enough time for escorts because you got so many fans, groupies. OR in reality, a legend in your own mind. Much time at home or striking out & calling escorts. :Eek:
I would imagine that rock stars make time to fuck their groupies
 

Big Michael

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I've never heard of female wingmen, but hey, there's always a first time.
The dynamics are different, but when I go out with two girl friends (8.5-9.0's on any scale) funny enough they identify the women I would have the most luck with and by far I get more action with them than I get going out with a couple buddies that are great with women. I think other women see me with them and think I must be okay, less creepy, whatever. Try it and se what happens.
 

afterhours

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The dynamics are different, but when I go out with two girl friends (8.5-9.0's on any scale) funny enough they identify the women I would have the most luck with and by far I get more action with them than I get going out with a couple buddies that are great with women. I think other women see me with them and think I must be okay, less creepy, whatever. Try it and se what happens.
how much do you pay them? I'd hire them for a reasonable rate
 

blackrock13

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The dynamics are different, but when I go out with two girl friends (8.5-9.0's on any scale) funny enough they identify the women I would have the most luck with and by far I get more action with them than I get going out with a couple buddies that are great with women. I think other women see me with them and think I must be okay, less creepy, whatever. Try it and se what happens.
I've learned something, but considering my SO is a better shot than I, she might not like it and I can't run that fast or far. Her French Canadian sense of humour doesn't stretch that far.
 

Big Michael

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how much do you pay them? I'd hire them for a reasonable rate
No cost, social circle friends, most women would do it. Actually they prefer having a male friend in the group in case they meet a weird dude. Helps them avoid awkward situations and generally they are freer to prowl the bar/club. That's is why I thinh Heidi a has a business opportunity. I Googled Female Wingman and this is what I got: http://wingme.ca/service-en
 

blackrock13

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No cost, social circle friends, most women would do it. Actually they prefer having a male friend in the group in case they meet a weird dude. Helps them avoid awkward situations and generally they are freer to prowl the bar/club. That's is why I thinh Heidi a has a business opportunity. I Googled Female Wingman and this is what I got: http://wingme.ca/service-en
Now that I understand. I've been asked to act as 'bug repellant' at functions. My second date with my present SO was for that exact purpose. Our third date was jokingly referred to as part deaux, my turn. The rest was history.
 
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