How many of you GAVE UP on dating figuring your just too undesirable to women?

[frankcastle]

You guys think you're pathetic??? Here're my stats:

Asian, 40, 5'0" (shorter than you average Asian), borderline obese, have to take 5 prescription drugs daily, and still works out 2-3 times a week. Imagine if I didn't workout, I probably be morbidly instead of borderline.

Only been on about 5 dates with civilian girls in my lifetime, never had a girlfriend. Only women I had sex with are SPs and strippers.

Only positive I have is a good job, but all my extra money goes to the hobby.

Hey that's 5 more dates than some guys.

 

[frankcastle]

Love how a guy shares a vulnerable moment and two guys are on him already.

 

[frankcastle]

Both joined in january I say that htey are using multiple handles or a past terbites..... most people wait a while before becoming jerks on terb

Oh wait you must be Shills in waiting just building up post counts. lol

Still you guys are cold.

 

[frankcastle]

I'm just kidding and I'm from the "other" sp board

there's another board?!!!??????

 

[blackrock13]

there's another board?!!!??????

It must be down again. I wonder if he know deadwood187?

 

[evilbaga]

You guys think you're pathetic??? Here're my stats:

Asian, 40, 5'0" (shorter than you average Asian), borderline obese, have to take 5 prescription drugs daily, and still works out 2-3 times a week. Imagine if I didn't workout, I probably be morbidly instead of borderline.

Only been on about 5 dates with civilian girls in my lifetime, never had a girlfriend. Only women I had sex with are SPs and strippers.

Only positive I have is a good job, but all my extra money goes to the hobby.

Hmmm... would you have a problem approaching/dating a taller woman if she was interested in you?
Would you be able to control any jealousy at her taller male friends (who all want to f**k her), if so?

Im curious, as Im 5'2.

 

[Partyman1970]

Spudd, that is aweful to hear about your health. Something genetic it sounds like that is causing this weight problem. As for the height, indeed it is unfortunate that here in North America, Western Culture has developed this standard of the attractiveness of a man so fucused on height, which is extreemly hard to change without radicle proceedures. So many elements of female attractiveness can be enhanced & not one feature is a sole deciding factor of attractiveness. BUT for man, height is the number one factor.... Be under 5'7" & in the sexually attractive index, your pretty well at the bottom of the scale. I think you already know that & just be around enough women & you will get a clear idea.

 

[blackrock13]

Spudd, that is aweful to hear about your health. Something genetic it sounds like that is causing this weight problem. As for the height, indeed it is unfortunate that here in North America, Western Culture has developed this standard of the attractiveness of a man so fucused on height, which is extreemly hard to change without radicle proceedures. So many elements of female attractiveness can be enhanced & not one feature is a sloe deciding factor of attractiveness. BUT for man, height is a number one factor.... Be under 5'7" & in the sexually attractive index, your pretty well at the bottom of the scale. I think you already know that & just be around enough women 7 you will get a clear idea.

C&B, where have you been the last few months?

 

[mur11]

Spudd, that is aweful to hear about your health. Something genetic it sounds like that is causing this weight problem. As for the height, indeed it is unfortunate that here in North America, Western Culture has developed this standard of the attractiveness of a man so fucused on height, which is extreemly hard to change without radicle proceedures. So many elements of female attractiveness can be enhanced & not one feature is a sloe deciding factor of attractiveness. BUT for man, height is a number one factor.... Be under 5'7" & in the sexually attractive index, your pretty well at the bottom of the scale. I think you already know that & just be around enough women 7 you will get a clear idea.

Are you cute-bald? You sure sound like him, spelling mistakes and all

But seriously spudd, that's too bad about your weight. I have no idea from what you said, whether your weight is an issue you can control or not. You sure sound like you're trying to control it and it sounds like it's a hormonal/genetic thing more so than a lifestyle choice. But again, and I realize this is terrible to hear, because people have probably been saying this to you forever, but you can't check yourself out of the game (Civilian game) I can totally understand that SPs/strippers give you the kind of non-judgmental attitude that many guys take for granted in their civilian lives, but you need to know that there are women out there who will do the same that are civilians. Sure, to be blunt, your potential pool is much smaller than say that of Tom Brady's or George Clooney's, but there's something out there for everyone. By being as short as you say are, but still having a lucrative career, you're already beating the studies that say short guys are destined to earn less than their taller counterparts, so look at it as another opportunity to beat the odds. Hobbying has its place to be sure, and if you need to 'scratch the itch' do so, but also look at civilian opportunities. No matter how long the odds, and no matter how many times it looks like it will never happen, remember you only get one crack at this life, and it only takes one girl. Trite, to be sure, and when you're lonely or tired of being rejected it's cold comfort, but it's true. I would much rather have taken the hits and the risks, and come up empty, than to have taken no risks and still come up empty. I truly do think that if you put yourself out there enough, you will come back with something real
/End inspirational speech
/Let's go fuck some whores

 

[Rockslinger]

OMG, way too many posts to even read some of them.

I vaguely recall there was a below average guy who was banned from a dating website (in the U.K.?) because he was only using it to find women to seduce. Apparently, he seduced 6 million (more or less) women before he was banned. Guys, join a dating website.

 

[evilbaga]

Johns nervous about approaching/dating. And being jealous, now I've heard it all. I don't have any issue and I'm 5'7" which is considered below average height in Canada.

Please keep your trap shut about stuff you cannot understand.

Ive had people call me midget, slap me on the head in a 'mock fight', pat me on the head...
The most recent girl's BF flexed his muscles, sneered at me while making a fist and stamping his foot whenever he thought no one else was looking, etc. For a whole year.

Perhaps outright violence is rare, but don't tell me intimidation doesn't exist or is 'rare'. You're doing what a woman does - extrapolating from you, being 6'3, and therefore having only a small percentage of the population to fear.

At 5'7 you have no idea what bullying is or how it can affect someone.

Spudd, that is aweful to hear about your health. Something genetic it sounds like that is causing this weight problem. As for the height, indeed it is unfortunate that here in North America, Western Culture has developed this standard of the attractiveness of a man so fucused on height, which is extreemly hard to change without radicle proceedures. So many elements of female attractiveness can be enhanced & not one feature is a sole deciding factor of attractiveness. BUT for man, height is the number one factor.... Be under 5'7" & in the sexually attractive index, your pretty well at the bottom of the scale. I think you already know that & just be around enough women & you will get a clear idea.

Im unconvinced its female choice that is the issue, as a partial list of the IOIs Ive received shows:

*6'0 Gujarati girl gave me her dorm number and said come over and talk any time I want. Also a few more incidents with this girl.
Attraction Level: Mild. Potential: GF material(?)

*5'4.5-5'5 Slut girl said "I like you" and ...waited(?) after I asked and she told me the story how a stud called her a bitch then took her to his room and kissed her.
Attraction Level: Medium. Potential: Just a little fooling around.

*5'4.5-5'5 250-300lbs girl hit on me when I was sitting in my room listening to music.
Attraction Level: None. Potential: GF material.

*My first love interest who looked like Suzy Amis - 5'4.5-5'5 - multiple opportunities.
Attraction Level: Medium to high. Potential: GF material.

*Girl 5'4.5'-5'5 stands up with her boobies (er... body) 3 inches from my face with her arms outstretched and calls out my name with a big smile (drunk and either she had a secret crush on me for some time, or she couldn't get the attention of the alpha in the room that I used to frequent on weekends).
Attraction Level: Medium. Potential: Nothing to GF material.

*Girl above's 5'4.5-5'5 friend dances in front of me provocatively after I tease her for flirting or being flirted with by the alpha (I have no idea if this was anything).
Attraction Level: Medium. Potential: Nothing to fooling around a bit.


*Girl 5'8 wants to fly half way across the world to see me, offers to fly me to Venice later on.
Attraction Level: Im confused. Potential: GF material.




*Bobbi Eden lookalike 5'5 gives me signals over a 7 month period.
Attraction Level: Medium to high. Potential: GF material.

*Girl 5'6 gives me signals or not - might not be anything.
Attraction Level: Low to Medium. Potential: No idea.

*Girl 5'0 I help with a computer problem is friendly. Later on, after a random encounter I ask and she gives me her number and buys me lunch.
Attraction Level: None. Potential: GF material.

*Girl 4'8 tries to get my attention after she witnesses a flareup with my latest's BF and I (could be nothing).
Attraction Level: None to Low. Potential: GF material, but I dont think I care.

 

[prestokeys]

Holy cow, this thread has gone too long. I'm too good-looking to be participating.

 

[evilbaga]

Of course I don't know what it means to be bullied. I haven't been coddled or spoiled in my childhood,, grew up in the shittiest and toughest neighborhoods in north york and scarborough. I was told to deck anyone that stepped up to me. I've put that behind me, they were moments I'm proud of. But, since I figured that's what most kids did when they didn't want to get bullied I don't brag about much.

We're not kids anymore. Dude, you're crying about being bullied? How old are you?

BTW, don't wait for IOIs. Approach, approach, approach girls that you like. But obviously men do that, Bullied Kids don't.

Once again, you get bullied 30%, overcome it... and assume that someone who is bullied 80% is on the same level.
Id bet you'd piss on a black dude in the 1950s because he didn't approach a white girl he liked or something as well.

You're just a thing in my eyes. Just maintaining your state of superiority without any thought.
As for me, maybe Ill get a woman, maybe not... not your concern.

 

[Partyman1970]

Problem is we only have your interpretation of getting ioi's. I have met many a desparate man who takes a woman's general friendlyness as ioi's. I have even myself had a few flirtatious women who I thought were expressing ioi's only to find out they were just overly flirtatious with everyone. DO NOT give this 5' guy false hope. Dude there is midget social conventions in the U.S. You are of the appropriate height to attend them & perhaps do well. NOT so in general Western society. You have one life to live, do not squander money on lotteries , nor precious time on women of the general population. Both are of equal odds of success.

 

[mur11]

Problem is we only have your interpretation of getting ioi's. I have met many a desparate man who takes a woman's general friendlyness as ioi's. I have even myself had a few flirtatious women who I thought were expressing ioi's only to find out they were just overly flirtatious with everyone. DO NOT give this 5' guy false hope. Dude there is midget social conventions in the U.S. You are of the appropriate height to attend them & perhaps do well. NOT so in general Western society. You have one life to live, do not squander money on lotteries , nor precious time on women of the general population. Both are of equal odds of success.

Dude don't be an asshole
I agree about not giving false hope to the guy, but to say that he's only destined to pick up at midget conventions is unduly harsh. I think you're projecting your own issues on this dude, and again, if you are in fact cute-bald, or even if you're not, I guarantee you that the reason you're alone presently is because you're a not a nice person in real life beyond your height and you project an attitude of desperation/bitterness to everyone else

 

[evilbaga]

Problem is we only have your interpretation of getting ioi's. I have met many a desparate man who takes a woman's general friendlyness as ioi's. I have even myself had a few flirtatious women who I thought were expressing ioi's only to find out they were just overly flirtatious with everyone. DO NOT give this 5' guy false hope. Dude there is midget social conventions in the U.S. You are of the appropriate height to attend them & perhaps do well. NOT so in general Western society. You have one life to live, do not squander money on lotteries , nor precious time on women of the general population. Both are of equal odds of success.

Ive had women bow their heads to me, seen their pupils dilate when they got excited and looked at me. Growl with frustration when I didnt respond. Approach me and sit next to me on an empty table, blush when I, taking a risk, told them I thought they were beautiful etc etc.

In particular, pupil dilation and blushing is not under conscious control...
Problem is, at my age, only place is bars and clubs for normal women... I doubt Ill have success there - as they are for short term mating basically. Most of the women who wanted me were looking for a BF. Thing is Im facially good looking, apart from my nose (typical S.Asian bulbous nose that I will fix within a year) hence my skepticism at the direct height/Dating success correlation.

 

[evilbaga]

As for giving the 5' guy hope... that is not my intention... by 40, he knows whats possible and stuff, eh?

Rather, Im curious if my own neurosis is abnormal - or other men my size have it too (as opposed to it being a direct 'females dont choose us' issue).

 

[mur11]

Ive had women bow their heads to me, seen their pupils dilate when they got excited and looked at me. Growl with frustration when I didnt respond. Approach me and sit next to me on an empty table, blush when I, taking a risk, told them I thought they were beautiful etc etc.

In particular, pupil dilation and blushing is not under conscious control...
Problem is, at my age, only place is bars and clubs for normal women... I doubt Ill have success there - as they are for short term mating basically. Most of the women who wanted me were looking for a BF. Thing is Im facially good looking, apart from my nose (typical S.Asian bulbous nose that I will fix within a year) hence my skepticism at the direct height/Dating success correlation.

I'll apologize if I don't understand what exactly you're looking for since I haven't read all 16 pages of this thread, but if I understand this post, you have if not no problem, but at least some success at attracting girls for long-term relationships? Is that correct? If so, what's your issue? You just want one-night stands with hotties? I feel like you can't bitch about whatever your perceived lack of physical attributes, or women not flocking to you. Not every guy, tall/short fat/skinny can pick up a different women every weekend at bars. Nor should they. If you're expecting the same type of variety in your civilian life that you can achieve in your hobbying life, you're going to be sadly disappointed. I thought this thread was about getting no action at all, rather than people who just want short-term action?

 

[evilbaga]

1. I'm Black, you know nothing about being Black.
2. Blacks in the 50s were lynched for fucking white girls.
3. Will you be chased by a lynch mob for fucking a white chick? No? Not my concern? Fine, just don't reply with childish messages and grow up.

See a psychiatrist.

1. I dont give a shit if youre black.
2. I grew up in the middle east. The very idea of dating or fucking a girl could get you deported and have your entire life destroyed.
3. Youre the one who needs to grow up. For you, Testosterone = grown up. Grow the fuck up yourself.

 

[evilbaga]

I'll apologize if I don't understand what exactly you're looking for since I haven't read all 16 pages of this thread, but if I understand this post, you have if not no problem, but at least some success at attracting girls for long-term relationships? Is that correct? If so, what's your issue? You just want one-night stands with hotties? I feel like you can't bitch about whatever your perceived lack of physical attributes, or women not flocking to you. Not every guy, tall/short fat/skinny can pick up a different women every weekend at bars. Nor should they. If you're expecting the same type of variety in your civilian life that you can achieve in your hobbying life, you're going to be sadly disappointed. I thought this thread was about getting no action at all, rather than people who just want short-term action?

My posts were directed at posts saying short guys are fucked. My whole point is Im unsure if thats true. My personal issues are entirely separate.