A CPA and two boxes of Timmies. Talk about a total disconnect. The band sent him packin'. The government shows us how much they really care about this community and the others like it.
My bad, haven't had my second java, CGA. it's still a brain dead response by the governmnet in Ottawa.they sent an american accountant in?
Only in the headlines. The number one problem is proper eduction. They aren't getting it. The new school that was built in Attawapiskat 10 years ago was built on a toxic dump established by the government and has been empty longer that it was occupied. The number of bands with leadership problem numbers about 50 out of the ~350 throughout the country. Who's fault is it in the others. NM2000 hit on the head, the government tells them what they need and doesn't ask them.A classic case of shooting the messenger. The number one issue of our native communities is themselves. Abuse by the band leaders has been well known for decades, and as long as you have the right last name you are in the money.
FROM: THE GLOBE AND MAIL NEWSPAPER _http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20051111/BCGIL FORD11/TPNational/Canada_ (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...ational/Canada) Gilford Island natives strike deal for new homes By JONATHAN WOODWARD Friday, November 11, 2005 Page _S1_ (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...111&searchDate Type=searchDateRange&sort=Score,sortdate,sorttime&hub=SearchAdvanced&searchTyp e=Advanced&from_date=20051111&to_date=20051111) His community has been suffering from undrinkable water for eight years and disgusting, mouldy houses for nearly a quarter-century. But Chief Bob Chamberlin took only a few days to strike a deal with the federal government to replace the worst of the dilapidated shacks at the Kwicksutaineuk-ah-kwaw-ah-mish First Nation. And with temporary housing arriving within months to the tiny village of Gwayasdums on Gilford Island off the northeastern tip of Vancouver Island, it won't be long before the children -- many of whose families left the village because they couldn't live with the health hazards in their homes -- can return, he said. "We needed some tangible things because our community has heard words and phrases before," said Mr. Chamberlin, whose band has promised to contribute $520,000 to the project that will replace the entire village. "Why this didn't happen before, I don't know," he said. The wells of Gwayasdums, once branded the sickest village in B.C., have been contaminated with salt water and citizens have been drinking bottled water for eight years. The village's houses are rundown, with holes, leaky roofs and often-faulty electrical wiring, and the stench of sewage rises from the ground. Mould in the houses has driven many families with young children from Gilford Island, Mr. Chamberlin said. Villagers have skin rashes from bathing in salt water, respiratory diseases plague all the residents, and last year, one young child was taken away on a respirator, said Dr. Granger Avery, who visits the community regularly from nearby Port McNeill. On Tuesday, Dr. Avery saw two people with rashes, one with respiratory distress and several with mood disorders. "All of the health problems can be traced to the mould or the water," he said. Vancouver Island MP John Duncan toured the village on Monday. "It's not Alert Bay, it's . . . sick bay," he said. But the prospect of a change in the band's lot -- motivated in large part by media coverage of the community's plight two weeks ago -- is bringing cautious optimism to the village, which heard promises a year ago that things would improve. A sign on David Johnson's door warns visitors that because of the mould, it's unsafe to visit his house, let alone live there. He hopes his home -- among the worst in the village -- will be replaced soon. "It will be nice to be in something that's clean that won't make us sick," Mr. Johnson said. Chief Chamberlin took his concerns about the conditions on the reserve to the media on Oct. 31. He met with government officials on Nov. 3 and reached a deal. Details will be finalized before a meeting between Mr. Chamberlin and federal Indian Affairs Minister Andy Scott on Nov. 16, said Ken McDonald, the manager of the special services unit of Indian and Northern Affairs Canada. Last month, the Ontario government airlifted about half of the Kashechewan reserve's 1,900 residents to communities farther south at an estimated cost of $300-million because of poor conditions, undrinkable water and a media firestorm. Mr. McDonald said such drastic measures were not required in Gwayasdums. Between four and five mobile homes will be placed on empty lots, he said, and between three and six houses will be demolished. The mobile homes will arrive in the coming months, and eventually the entire village will be redeveloped, he said. "We looked at every house, and decided that none were worth saving," he said. The federal government built the houses in the 1960s using designs that didn't account for the humidity of the area, he said. "They were standard reserve houses for that time period," he said. "Now, we're paying the price, on and off reserve, for that misconception." Mr. McDonald said public pressure through the media had "focused" his department's efforts. A change in the band's leadership also made an agreement possible, he said. The band has promised $520,000 to the project from their revenue-sharing agreement with the provincial government for timber, Mr. Chamberlin said. About $100,000 will be used over five years on the band's share of maintenance of a water-purification system, which is still in the design stages, he said. Spending the band's money "demonstrates we're responsible," he said. But some band members who left the reserve say they may never return. Dorothy Hawkins, 30, left for Port McNeill with her five children a year ago, one of them breathing through a respirator. It may be better for her to raise them in Port McNeill, she said. Even if the mould problems are gone, her children have better access to schools now, and she wants them to be able to drink tap water. "I had to move for my kids' sake," she said. |
Cant they buy their own homes?is the community viable where it is? or would it be better to buy them homes in an area where they can get an education and find work?
Aside from the fact that the buildings are built too low on the flood plain next to the river, it is viable and there is work, but most are too sick to work or have family too sick to leave alone. Most of the communities within 100kms, Fort Albany, Moosenee, and Moose Factory are in the same boatis the community viable where it is? or would it be better to buy them homes in an area where they can get an education and find work?
We were well on the way to fixing many problems, not all, with the signing of the Kelowna Accord in 1996, under the Liberals, but the Conservatives have been in power since then and has basically pushed the KA out the door. Who do we blame? Yes, there's lot of blame to go around over the years, but nothing like taking toe steps forward and then three steps, or more backwards.Before we start blasting away at the current government, one has to to know the ins and outs of Aboriginal affairs. This is a failure of the whole system, not set up by the current government, but by a long gone governing party and tinkered with by all successive parties. With a hands off approach, by the established guidlines and a push for self governing, money has been shovelled into alot of these reserves and then mishandled by the ruling chief. Without anybody to oversee where the money is spent, many families on these reserves are basically in poverty. The feds put money into the buildings, like community centres and arenas and many buildings are damaged even before they open, but money that should be distributed evenly is not, by the chief and his family. Reserves across this country are a vastly different from one another, it always seems that those that are the remotest are the worst for mismanagement.
One has to remember the displaced Inuit and the removal of children for education purposes. The governments of the day are not into relocating whole bands, as this removes them from their traditional areas of habitation.Aside from the fact that the buildings are built too low on the flood plain next to the river, it is viable and there is work, but most are too sick to work or have family too sick to leave alone. Most of the communities within 100kms, Fort Albany, Moosenee, and Moose Factory are in the same boat
We were well on the way to fixing many problems, not all with, the signing of the Kelowna Accord in 1996, under the Liberals, but the Conservatives have been in power since then and has basically pushed the KA out the door. Who do we blame? Yes, there's lot of blame to go around over the years, but nothing like taking toe steps forward and then three steps, or more backwards.
Proper education has many meanings. We tried teaching them to be like us in the residential schools and it was a big success,not. You teach them the basic R's, and also teach them about themselves, their history, language and culture. There are excellent native oriented degree programs at Lakehead and Trent in Ontario and similar diploma and degree programs in other provinces and territories. A public school can also act as a refuge from the hell in the home, that unfortunately exists for many reasons. Students will come to class and sleep for the first two hours because they didn't sleep at night at home. Family abuse is rampant.But define "proper" education. Trying to teach them how to be "like us" is not helping them.
The youth is being told by outsiders that their way of life is obsolete and they should want to be more like "us". You can't live a modern lifestyle in those areas.
These towns are failing much like the familly farms are in the Southern parts of the country. The youth don't want to work 18 hour days for very little income so they leave the farm and never look back.
I fear the first domino was pushed a long time ago and it's a matter of time until the only solution is to offer those living in remote communities the option of leaving for good. Some will stay because they enjoy the lifestyle, but it's a matter of time until many of these areas collapse. The next generation would need to believe that staying is a good thing in order for all these programs to be effective, and they simply don't want to be there anymore.
In my experience with native cultures in many countries, the last thing you do is go in and 'tell' them what they need. It goes over much better if you go in and ask what they need and what you can do, then listen.Again, we are dealing with people who do not want the goverment to be telling them how to handle their affairs, I can only imagine the red tape that the govermnent of the day gets from the ruling council of chiefs. Very ironic.
Agreed. We have to remember that all of this didn't happen overnight. The problems on this reserve and others are well known to Aboriginal Affairs. It's the glacial speed that the two governing bodies are moving that is the real problem here.In my experience with native cultures in many countries, the last thing you do is go in and 'tell' them what they need. It goes over much better if you go in and ask what they need and what you can do, then listen.
Not all bands run casinos. I can't think of one isolated community that has one. The Casino money is not shared between communities. In some of these communities it can costs $400,000 to build a bungalow that would cost $100,000 down here. We covered food in a previous thread, but $20 for peanut butter and $12.00 for a dozen eggs is not uncommon.Where are all the monies they're supposed to get/have from their tribal leaders? Why are these people still living in 18th century conditions? Where is all the casino monies they're suppose to share amongst the people?
All fairly reasonable as a description of what's wrong, and even some of the why that is.Before we start blasting away at the current government, one has to to know the ins and outs of Aboriginal affairs. This is a failure of the whole system, not set up by the current government, but by a long gone governing party and tinkered with by all successive parties. With a hands off approach, by the established guidlines and a push for self governing, money has been shovelled into alot of these reserves and then mishandled by the ruling chief. Without anybody to oversee where the money is spent, many families on these reserves are basically in poverty. The feds put money into the buildings, like community centres and arenas and many buildings are damaged even before they open, but money that should be distributed evenly is not, by the chief and his family. Reserves across this country are a vastly different from one another, it always seems that those that are the remotest are the worst for mismanagement.
why are they sick? should they live on a flood plain?Aside from the fact that the buildings are built too low on the flood plain next to the river, it is viable and there is work, but most are too sick to work or have family too sick to leave alone. Most of the communities within 100kms, Fort Albany, Moosenee, and Moose Factory are in the same boat