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The Southwestern Company and vector Marketing

canada-man

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why do MLM scam artists always use the term "business opportunity"?



what's more disturbing is a company called southwestern company expect students both American and foreign to go into places far from home and ask strangers to give them place to sleep at nights and pay for their living expenses.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwestern_Company

these MLM companies donate to the republican party and are members and have ties to right wing lobby groups.


http://southwesterncompanytruth.com/

Southwestern Company's Negative Impact
June 26, 2007



Southwestern Company's negative impact

http://southwesterncompanytruth.com/Testimony_062607.html

This past Saturday my wife and I were shocked when we found a young woman walking around Elmhurst looking for a place to sleep. I am very sympathetic to the homeless and this young woman had an added factor that made her case even more distressing. She and two other young people were dropped off in Elmhurst and told that they had to find their own shelter. Then the circumstances began to come to light.



They are Bulgarian students on J-1 visas, which allow them to work in the U.S. for four months in the summer. College students like them come to the U.S. to sell the products of the Southwestern Company.



When these students find a family who is willing to host them, they give the family a sheet that clearly states that the students are expected to work an 80-hour, six-day week. Sundays are reserved for group meetings. The students have no cars or means of transportation. They have little money. Yet the three Elmhurst salespersons are expected to cover the entire town door to door. We know that similar efforts are also being made in surrounding communities



The company protects itself by making sure that each student is registered as an "independent contractor," which absolves the organization from legal responsibilities.



To talk to the students, one gets the impression that they have almost been brainwashed into a cult-like admiration of the business mode they are in. Yet we think that using these international [as well as national] college students as the lowest rung of a multi-layered management business without even giving them the benefit of being employees is not acceptable.



Door-to-door sales are very hard to do. Cold-calling people in a community to ask for a place to stay is even more difficult and potentially dangerous.



If the Southwestern Company is going to bring students from overseas, they need to make sure that their basic needs are met and not just in Tennessee but in every placed community. It is our opinion that Southwestern is also using Americans who, out of the goodness of their hearts, take in these students to keep them safe. That is double exploitation. It is disgusting to think that an American business association could stoop so low as this effort seems to be.



We have been previously involved in exchange programs. It upset us greatly to hear that these students were told that it would be a great character-building experience for them to go into a community and knock on doors asking for lodging. The Southwestern Company is making money as a result of these students' work, and Southwestern is also using the people who host them. Southwestern has the moral responsibility to find safe housing prior to their arrival in any community. As consumers we don't think we should support or purchase products from such a company.


We are appalled at what one company can do to harm innocent young lives and hurt the American image abroad.
 

papasmerf

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what's more disturbing is a POLITICAL PARTY CALL democrart expect both American and foreign to go into places far from home and ask strangers to give them place to sleep at nights and pay for their living expenses. The dems call it social programs BUT the REPUBLICANS call is welfare.

Fixed your post
 

puaBestMate

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canada-man, i understand why you did not invite the young bulgarian woman to your house to sleep, because your wife would mind. Please forward her contact info to me, I will let her sleep in my house and even have a beer from my fridge.
 

canada-man

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the letter was written in June, 2007 and this is in the U.S and i like the fact that papasmerf is ignoring a company in his nation that use college students as cheap labor slaves, expect them to work 80 hours a week and get no salary to help pay for expenses and ask strangers for a place to stay which is dangerous.
 

papasmerf

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the letter was written in June, 2007 and this is in the U.S and i like the fact that papasmerf is ignoring a company in his nation that use college students as cheap labor slaves, expect them to work 80 hours a week and get no salary to help pay for expenses and ask strangers for a place to stay which is dangerous.
That kind of crap has been around forever and if these kids would ask mom or dad if it sounds like a good opportunity.
They would likely say no.

I have to ask you if this is how you earned a living and you just found out you were used?
 

canada-man

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That kind of crap has been around forever and if these kids would ask mom or dad if it sounds like a good opportunity.
They would likely say no.

I have to ask you if this is how you earned a living and you just found out you were used?
no i am not doing door to door sales i just come across this
 

Aardvark154

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the letter was written in June, 2007 and this is in the U.S and i like the fact that papasmerf is ignoring a company in his nation that use college students as cheap labor slaves, expect them to work 80 hours a week and get no salary to help pay for expenses and ask strangers for a place to stay which is dangerous.
Which is why if you had done some actual research rather than just a "cut and paste" you would know that the law regarding J-1 (Summer Student Worker) visas has been changed.

What has in fact happened is that although it has protected them from the likes of the Southwestern Company, it has dramatically decreased employment opportunities since most such University Students would typically arrive in tourist destinations and then walk around town looking for employment - they can no longer do so - they must have guaranteed employment before they apply for a visa.

You would also know that the letter is the exception to the rule, that most such students have a fantastic time in the U.S. many come back for several summers and some end up applying to be permanent residents. Many "tourist towns" even organize outings to various scenic and cultural sites elsewhere so that the students get a broader view of the U.S.
 
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