BBWS: By Weight, at one point do you say a woman is a BBW

[NoFatties]

And if you think she's 140 or even 180 pounds, you a bigger dummy than I initially thought.

The dummy is the clueless bastard that comments on a post without reading it although in your defense this image can be shocking.

I never even remotely suggested that this flower of femininity was 140, 180 or any other weight. I was responding to a strong argument that girls were dying because they were trying to be thin (which is very rare). This is refuge of flawed logic used by many BBW women. Fat women are not healthy and maybe a diet and exercise plan toward a thinner goal could save their lives.

 

[wet_suit_one]

The dummy is the clueless bastard that comments on a post without reading it although in your defense this image can be shocking.

I never even remotely suggested that this flower of femininity was 140, 180 or any other weight. I was responding to a strong argument that girls were dying because they were trying to be thin (which is very rare). This is refuge of flawed logic used by many BBW women. Fat women are not healthy and maybe a diet and exercise plan toward a thinner goal could save their lives.

I guess the original shitwick failed to get my point. Namely:

"All this poll shows is that a significant number of men are fucking stupid with respect to weight."

Nor are they aware that yes, women do starve themselves to death: http://www.teen-beauty-tips.com/national-statistics-for-anorexia.html

But otherwise, I guess us shitwicks can put this issue to rest, now that we've said our respective pieces on the issue. Alternatively, we could raise ourselves to the level of sheer fuckwits and carry on.

Your call.

 

[boodog]

I think most of us would would agree that a woman under 140 lbs is not a BBW, I have used 10lb intervals in the above thread to find the most agreed upon definition by weight for where the term BBW should be applied.

It depends on the height of the ladies.

For example, 5'0" 120 lbs is fat but 140-150 lbs for ladies who are 5' 10" and up are very nice.

 

[luv4lust]

Don't the numbers matter if you're looking through ads for a BBW?

So many women on here are evasive about what weight they feel is a BBW for a girl of average height and muscle tone, why is that? Isn't there a number where you feel a woman can call herself a BBW to those who appreciate them?

i had more clients when i was a bbw then i do now after i dropped 180 lbs some times it makes me want to gain the weight back

 

[Brill]

i had more clients when i was a bbw then i do now after i dropped 180 lbs some times it makes me want to gain the weight back

That doesn't surprise me, now you're a bit less unique in appearance even though you have the same great service.
If you feel better at a lower weight I think you should stick with it but it's really your call.

Is there a magic number you'd call yourself a BBW at your height?

 

[luv4lust]

That doesn't surprise me, now you're a bit less unique in appearance even though you have the same great service.
If you feel better at a lower weight I think you should stick with it but it's really your call.

Is there a magic number you'd call yourself a BBW at your height?

at 5'10" anything over 200 or when you can't see your pussy or when shit starts to hang
when i started escorting many years ago i was 350 lbs now i'm about 170 give or take 5 lbs and thanks to a very kind guy i got a tummy tuck so i don't look horrid with loose shit hanging
my weight loss was due to me finding out i was diabetic

http://www.diabeticdietfordiabetes.com/

 

[Jennifer_]

I guess the original shitwick failed to get my point. Namely:

"All this poll shows is that a significant number of men are fucking stupid with respect to weight."

Nor are they aware that yes, women do starve themselves to death: http://www.teen-beauty-tips.com/national-statistics-for-anorexia.html

As someone who has been there and done that, almost died from it and gotten over it. I appreciate the fact that you've pointed it out.


The pressure on women to be perfect is more real than most people realize. When the pressure is there and the genetic link is there, there is a real vulnerability that most likely have no ability to comprehend. Real women (and sexy women) come in all shapes - and they likely weigh more than you think....

bbw women can be beautiful regardless - but it really bothers me to see the unrealistic expectations in regards to weight in this thread - as someone who knows what 140 looks like, and as someone who knows how threads like this can reek havoc on someone who is easily affected by unrealistic expectations.... There are a lot of those girls in this industry.... I hope they don't focus too much on the numbers - that's what I would've done in my past.... The numbers mean fak-all....

 

[Brill]

The numbers mean fak-all....

Not true. Why would you post your own weight if it was a meaningless number?
Together with your height it gives us a look at what body type you are. If an attractive woman at 200lbs and 5'7" can label themselves as a BBW, doesn't that help describe her to clients?
I think you're reacting to some people who are saying 140 is overweight and I can understand why that angers you.

 

[Jennifer_]

Not true. Why would you post your own weight if it was a meaningless number?
Together with your height it gives us a look at what body type you are. If an attractive woman at 200lbs and 5'7" can label themselves as a BBW, doesn't that help describe her to clients?
I think you're reacting to some people who are saying 140 is overweight and I can understand why that angers you.

... I list it because it is the norm but the norm also includes obvious misrepresentation which leads to skewed perceptions of what is real. I would just hate for the wrong girl to read some of the comments here....

The numbers mean fak all. I may be honest about my weight but someone else, who weighs 15lbs more than me may list themselves as the same weight as me. How does that give you an accurate picture of her or my weight?

I will bow out of this one - obviously it's a tender topic for me

 

[Brill]

That's a good enough response, Jennifer - labels are often unfair as well as being useful at times.

 

[NoFatties]

Nor are they aware that yes, women do starve themselves to death: http://www.teen-beauty-tips.com/national-statistics-for-anorexia.html

But otherwise, I guess us shitwicks can put this issue to rest, now that we've said our respective pieces on the issue. Alternatively, we could raise ourselves to the level of sheer fuckwits and carry on.

Your call.

Obviously people carried on so I guess your 'fuckwits' comment on your self appointed juvenile effort to get the last word raises you to either the only unfuckwit here or as numbers would indicate - the only fuckwit that uses a constant barrage of insults to drive a your own pigheaded narrow viewpoint.

I am not disputing that a anorexia is a dangerous condition. It is a serious condition that can affects less that 1% of the female population. To suggest that men's 'fucking' fixation to slim healthy women is causing women to starve themselves is utterly ludicrous. Scientists have proven that men and women are naturally attracted to the characteristics that provide the best chance of raising a family. It is not an international conspiracy that fashion and advertising with fit women sell the most products because both men and women respond to the ads.

Okay - let's look at the impact of men being fucking stupid about weight - that is - even with an emphasizes you suggest is causing starvation, lets check the results of obesity in the population: Over two-thirds of adults in the United States are overweight or obese, and over one-third are obese, according to data from the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES) 2003–2006 and 2007–2008

What are the health risks:

Risk Factors for Overweight and Obesity

■ type 2 diabetes
■ coronary heart disease
■ high LDL ("bad") cholesterol
■ stroke
■ hypertension
■ nonalcoholic fatty liver disease
■ gallbladder disease
■ osteoarthritis (degeneration of cartilage and bone of joints)
■ sleep apnea and other breathing problems
■ some forms of cancer (breast, colorectal, endometrial, and kidney)
■ complications of pregnancy
■ menstrual irregularities

I'm not sure of the number of deaths with anorexia but Obesity is associated with over 112,000 excess deaths due to cardiovascular disease, over 15,000 excess deaths due to cancer, and over 35,000 excess deaths due to non-cancer, non-cardiovascular disease causes per year in the U.S. population, relative to healthy-weight individuals.[Cause-Specific Excess Deaths Associated With Underweight, Overweight, and Obesity. Journal of the American Medical Association. 2007; 298(17):2028–203]

Basically your BBW & BBM result in an additional 170,000 deaths each year in the US. So if men were not 'fucking stupid with respect to weight' - do you think these numbers will go down ???

This thread is about BBW - I don't like to see girls like the incredible sexy Jennifer sick [and I do love that photo] but I'm guessing that there are other issues at work revolving around this disorder than the chase for weight loss because there are girls who are anything but fat affected. [e.g. a self confidence issue. etc. - just a guess - I'm not a pysch]

Anyways - if the focus on healthy slim girls that help set a goal towards health in woman - statistically I'm saving more lives that if I was not. In fact I would suggest that the 'fucking stupid about weight' is those that encourage BBW.

The defense rests. [Of course any response is an admission that you are a sheer fuckwit - so I guess I won't hold my breath for your respose or apology ]

 

[GG2]

I would suggest that the 'fucking stupid about weight' is those that encourage BBW.

That's true and almost poetic.

BBW? You're unhealthy, lose weight.

 

[sukmy]

In respect to the body image messages that women get from birth, and in respect to saying that we respond to these Healthy images it is true inasmuch that we respond to them, however in nearly all cases it is smaller thin women who appear in ads, with good lighting, photography, after edits. Even at a healthy weight the average BUILT woman will never be reflected in the women chosen for the vast majority of advertising.

Occasionally in acting we see a break out girl who gets roles despite being larger than average, but in many roles where thin vs. average vs. thick are not at issue, the big and small screens are bombarded by images of impossible to achieve bodies.

North American lifestyles (Fitness, Food, Transportation, Recreation etc.) have been under the spot light for years as being bad, and one of the biggest exports these days from this continent is Fast Food culture. The Drive everywhere, even for a bag a milk world we live in is Shit for our bodies.

Food, even in the Supermarket is getting even more and more politicized. Poorer people are eating more and more prepackaged crap than ever, with little choice than to buy into it because making from scratch a good healthy meal will cost more. Stores, especially the Food Basics, No Frills and Freshcos lot continually place rock bottom prices on frozen calorie laden meals or meal components.

Should a curvy woman be celebrated, yes. Should and obese woman lose weight so that she is merely curvy, yes.

Curvy women are not all fat, but are made to feel like crap because they are already at their average body weight, or just a little bit over it but are fighting an uphill battle in their busy lives to feel good about themselves.

Real BBWs do exist too, not every girl who shops at a plus size store is their because she at too many twinkies and sat on the couch. Just as genetics pumps out tiny 4 foot 10 girls it also has given us a good proportion of women who will never fit into no plus size clothing no matter how much weight they drop. These women should be celebrated too, they've got it bad.

The question of whether a curvy SP who is merely slightly overweight, or moderately obese should feel bad about it, no they should not, should they be getting with their doctor, a trainer, a nutritionist, yeah probably. We have gone way OT here, any yeah my poll was flawed, but the discussions have been good, this is what the lounge is for. Women need to look after their health, me I am dead set against FEEDERS, guys who have a fetish for making women mega obese. I would not anymore ask a curvy woman to become obese, or ask an obese woman to put on any more weight. But I am still attracted to unashamedly to curvy and obese women. I like big round asses, curves, some tummy, big heavy natural breasts. It is something that almost none of the thin spin sps can offer, and the number of curvy or bbw women who are sps is well under represented in the industry.

Weight used to be celebrated in the past, having a little extra padding meant you were better equipped to bear a child. But then again people used to have hard physically demanding lives, I mean really demanding. So Health should be aspired to, not just at either crazy end of the weight spectrum, but in the middle too where thin people die of stroke and heart disease and cancer despite being healthy weight.

 

[bobistheowl]

I thought it was really funny when Butthead used the term Dove Model to describe a large woman in one of the episodes last week.

 

[flyingwood]

making from scratch a good healthy meal will cost more

I'm always puzzled by such statement. From my experience, I am able to cut my food spending in half by cooking my own meal. Prepackaged craps and junk food are more expensive.

 

[NoFatties]

Curvy women are not all fat, but are made to feel like crap because they are already at their average body weight,

People have to be content with the knowledge that they are the best that they can be. Not that we look like him or her, but that we are content with ourselves. I don't look like Brad Pitt, George Clooney or just about every other leading man that girls (of all weight sizes) dream about. I don't give up looking and feeling my best by pigging down on fats then cursing the role models that Pitt & Clooney set either. It is that attitude I don't agree with. I LOVE cheese and chocolates but I avoid them not in attempt starve myself but to be the best that I can be in health and appearance.

My argument was with a stupid statement that men's fixation on slim girls (and similarly girls fixation on slim guys) causes health risks. I don't believe that and still think that they are natural attractions that create some incentive towards a more healthier life style.

 

[Madeline Rhodes]

the clothes are cut differently. They don't fit slimmer women properly.

They don't even fit CURVY women properly for the most part. Let's have a reality check... Off the rack is still off the rack no matter if it is a plus size clothing store or a regular size clothing store. I get what you mean but I want to clarify something.

There are only a handful of stores I can or will shop at and their inventory is limited even at that for me. Please do not misunderstand. I can shop in MANY stores based on the sizes they carry... If I do not mind that they will not fit MY body and MY shape. This applies to plus size clothing lines period which often start at a size 12 or 14 and go up from there.

A perfect example is my fabulous new winter jacket. I love it... I bought it... But there were problems.

1. I had to go up a full size due to one problem area.
2. It was the 40th jacket I tried on over the past 2 years (this was a long hard search)
3. In going up a size it made the waist WAY too big for me - tailoring helped. I needed 7 inches taken off to be perfect for me but they had to cap it at 4 inches off to keep the line of the jacket. I am giving it a go and deciding if I want to go back in and tell them to re-design the bottom regardless.

Now... Take issues 1 and 3 and apply them to any button up blouses/shirts, and most other shirts as well.

Then compound it by heading toward the pants... I have many pairs of pants and jeans I have had tailored at the waist, and I have to bypass many, many pairs due to hips or thigh issues, let alone needing them in tall.

I could comfortably live with things if I wore dresses and skirts every day but I often want to wear pants... Goodness help me but I am now on the search for my own designer/tailor to create shorts like the ones I want to replace the "perfect" ones before next summer.

Just because I am a big girl... doesn't mean I have a big tummy, or waist. It's not my shape but it is what they market and sell to in most stores. *sigh* TG for S.P.C., igigi and stores like them.

In respect to the body image messages that women get from birth, and in respect to saying that we respond to these Healthy images it is true inasmuch that we respond to them, however in nearly all cases it is smaller thin women who appear in ads, with good lighting, photography, after edits. Even at a healthy weight the average BUILT woman will never be reflected in the women chosen for the vast majority of advertising.

Occasionally in acting we see a break out girl who gets roles despite being larger than average, but in many roles where thin vs. average vs. thick are not at issue, the big and small screens are bombarded by images of impossible to achieve bodies.

North American lifestyles (Fitness, Food, Transportation, Recreation etc.) have been under the spot light for years as being bad, and one of the biggest exports these days from this continent is Fast Food culture. The Drive everywhere, even for a bag a milk world we live in is Shit for our bodies.

Food, even in the Supermarket is getting even more and more politicized. Poorer people are eating more and more prepackaged crap than ever, with little choice than to buy into it because making from scratch a good healthy meal will cost more. Stores, especially the Food Basics, No Frills and Freshcos lot continually place rock bottom prices on frozen calorie laden meals or meal components.

Should a curvy woman be celebrated, yes. Should and obese woman lose weight so that she is merely curvy, yes.

Curvy women are not all fat, but are made to feel like crap because they are already at their average body weight, or just a little bit over it but are fighting an uphill battle in their busy lives to feel good about themselves.

Real BBWs do exist too, not every girl who shops at a plus size store is their because she at too many twinkies and sat on the couch. Just as genetics pumps out tiny 4 foot 10 girls it also has given us a good proportion of women who will never fit into no plus size clothing no matter how much weight they drop. These women should be celebrated too, they've got it bad.

The question of whether a curvy SP who is merely slightly overweight, or moderately obese should feel bad about it, no they should not, should they be getting with their doctor, a trainer, a nutritionist, yeah probably. We have gone way OT here, any yeah my poll was flawed, but the discussions have been good, this is what the lounge is for. Women need to look after their health, me I am dead set against FEEDERS, guys who have a fetish for making women mega obese. I would not anymore ask a curvy woman to become obese, or ask an obese woman to put on any more weight. But I am still attracted to unashamedly to curvy and obese women. I like big round asses, curves, some tummy, big heavy natural breasts. It is something that almost none of the thin spin sps can offer, and the number of curvy or bbw women who are sps is well under represented in the industry.

Weight used to be celebrated in the past, having a little extra padding meant you were better equipped to bear a child. But then again people used to have hard physically demanding lives, I mean really demanding. So Health should be aspired to, not just at either crazy end of the weight spectrum, but in the middle too where thin people die of stroke and heart disease and cancer despite being healthy weight.

I agree with what you said but what I bolded socked me because I thought I was the only one who noticed that.

 

[bobistheowl]

They don't even fit CURVY women properly for the most part. Let's have a reality check... Off the rack is still off the rack no matter if it is a plus size clothing store or a regular size clothing store. I get what you mean but I want to clarify something.

There are only a handful of stores I can or will shop at and their inventory is limited even at that for me. Please do not misunderstand. I can shop in MANY stores based on the sizes they carry... If I do not mind that they will not fit MY body and MY shape. This applies to plus size clothing lines period which often start at a size 12 or 14 and go up from there.

A perfect example is my fabulous new winter jacket. I love it... I bought it... But there were problems.

1. I had to go up a full size due to one problem area.
2. It was the 40th jacket I tried on over the past 2 years (this was a long hard search)
3. In going up a size it made the waist WAY too big for me - tailoring helped. I needed 7 inches taken off to be perfect for me but they had to cap it at 4 inches off to keep the line of the jacket. I am giving it a go and deciding if I want to go back in and tell them to re-design the bottom regardless.

Now... Take issues 1 and 3 and apply them to any button up blouses/shirts, and most other shirts as well.

Then compound it by heading toward the pants... I have many pairs of pants and jeans I have had tailored at the waist, and I have to bypass many, many pairs due to hips or thigh issues, let alone needing them in tall.

I could comfortably live with things if I wore dresses and skirts every day but I often want to wear pants... Goodness help me but I am now on the search for my own designer/tailor to create shorts like the ones I want to replace the "perfect" ones before next summer.

Just because I am a big girl... doesn't mean I have a big tummy, or waist. It's not my shape but it is what they market and sell to in most stores. *sigh* TG for S.P.C., igigi and stores like them.



I agree with what you said but what I bolded socked me because I thought I was the only one who noticed that.

Madeline Rhodes, would you be comfortable telling us your height and measurements, so we can visualize the dilemma you have in finding clothes that fit?

 

[Madeline Rhodes]

Madeline Rhodes, would you be comfortable telling us your height and measurements, so we can visualize the dilemma you have in finding clothes that fit?

HAHAHA I wondered how long till someone asked.

Sorry... That is the beauty of just being a spectator now days. I don't have to post measurements, weight, etc.

 

[sukmy]

I'm always puzzled by such statement. From my experience, I am able to cut my food spending in half by cooking my own meal. Prepackaged craps and junk food are more expensive.

It does depend on where you shop, what is on sale, what level of skill you have in the kitchen, what kitchen skills you have, what is in or out of season, and even how much time one has to prepare their meals. Perhaps it is better to broaden out my statement by saying that there is a great deal of FOOD ILLITERACY in North America, especially in urban centers.

I have enjoyed great saving at times eating fresh food, but there are other times when the quality or expense of ingredients puts a strain on the pallet and the pocket book. Yes Tomatoes can be cheap at no frills but they get the shit ones compared with those which can be purchased at Sobeys. It is hard to say NO to 2 Declicio pizzas for $6.00 when challenged by the factors I listed in the previous paragraph above. I am not saying you are wrong, you are right.

FOOD POLITICS is insidious, increasingly the products entering the stores are less and less like real food. Think Lunchables for those of you who have kids. It is a FUN kit of bits and pieces so your kid can make little pizzas or little subs out of a bunch of prepackaged ingredients. All I got for lunch growing up was a brown bread and butter processed cheese sandwich, but I ate it, the bread had fibre, vitamins, the cheese had calcium, it was not that bad.

The battle ground in the future is going to be the ability of poorer people to access fresh ingredients, and when at the end of that supply chain the store wants to unload crap mass manufactured fattening food to its poorer class of shopper it will simply slash the price, make it attractive but still unload a product that does not spoil and rot out in the fresh produce and bakery section of their stores. In other words there is no loss, they can still sell it all at any time and they make money off every single product.

At least in Canada fast food is almost double the price with respect to VALUE menus, otherwise Canadians would simply be even more unhealthy. Getting a hamburger for 99 Cents etc. is still far less than McDonalds 1.39 or Wendy's 99 cent vs 1.89 .