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blackrock13

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A route is not a specific site assignment as your original post had suggested. Hell all divisions in all jurisdictions have routes thus negating your TD Centre(designated sites) agruement.

A bloated by 1900 sworn member police force now reduced by a 80 member Transit Patrol Unit still equals 1820 superfluous cops.

$200 million a year, every year, year after year wasted on gravy.
There are cops assigned to Bridle Path 5 block 'area' all the time. They are not to leave, except for one call, officer down. The same with the TD Centre.
 

kenpachi

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You've got to get that 'fuck you pigs' bumper sticker off your car. It might change things
Correction, it's "FUCK YOU PIG FUCKERS". No seriously, sorry everyone for bashing the cops. I know they work hard and all, but all the bad ones needs to get fired and work at Tim Hortons.
 

blackrock13

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A route is not a specific site assignment as your original post had suggested. Hell all divisions in all jurisdictions have routes thus negating your TD Centre(designated sites) agruement.

A bloated by 1900 sworn member police force now reduced by a 80 member Transit Patrol Unit still equals 1820 superfluous cops.

$200 million a year, every year, year after year wasted on gravy.
You can keep saying 'bloated' all you want, but it still doesn't make it so.
 

blackrock13

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Correction, it's "FUCK YOU PIG FUCKERS". No seriously, sorry everyone for bashing the cops. I know they work hard and all, but all the bad ones needs to get fired and work at Tim Hortons.
My bad, blame it on the traffic cam feeds to my place.
 

blackrock13

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Exactly.... play the TPS PR game.... .state the name of the fallen. make us all feel bad and then ask for more. Oh... you're right Blackie... these cops have it so tough... I think we should all just hand over 25% of our pre tax salaries directly to the TPS.... After all.. these young men are dying so that i can be safe.

The TPS PR machine has you wrapped around their finger. Dance, Blackie, dance.
It's clear you really don't like the TPS, until you really need them.
 

simon482

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It's clear you really don't like the TPS, until you really need them.
i'm no fan but i don't begrudge them. they make shit safer, not perfect but safer. keep people like me from the doing the shit that i do.
 

Anbarandy

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There are cops assigned to Bridle Path 5 block 'area' all the time. They are not to leave, except for one call, officer down. The same with the TD Centre.
First you said at a designated site. Then, a part of their route. And now it has morphed into an area.

I mean what next?

"This witness may fold under questioning, your honour"
 

simon482

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BR, the crime rate has not come down because of the police. There have been studies on this and there is no direct causation of the increase in police forces causing a decrease in crime rate.

The crime rate has been going down all over north america and it begs the question of why we need so many police.
show these studies. i want to see proof on that. not picking a fight, just reading what you said and it don't make any sort of sense.
 

blackrock13

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BR, the crime rate has not come down because of the police. There have been studies on this and there is no direct causation of the increase in police forces causing a decrease in crime rate.

The crime rate has been going down all over north america and it begs the question of why we need so many police.

I'm guessing you didn't read post #93. The police being the solution has never been my claim nor the reason for the drop in crime. There are a number of interwoven reasons of which well supplied well trained police is one, as shown in the one reference offered.

There are a number of reports showing the crime rate has gone down just 'in the last couple of years', but few discuss why.

I wouldn't tell the people in Edmonton and Detroit that their crime rate there is going down
 

rld

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Amazing... and you keep repeating the mantra!! If we criticize the police, then we are hypocrites because we would call on them when in need. So don't dare criticize the police. LOL Too funny!!

I also need my mechanic. Is it alright to criticize mechanics if they form a monopoly and start to fuck us all up the ass?
Have you really sunken to the illogical level to compare cops to mechanics to vent your issues? That sound you hear is your credibility going down the toilet.
 

blackrock13

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Amazing... and you keep repeating the mantra!! If we criticize the police, then we are hypocrites because we would call on them when in need. So don't dare criticize the police. LOL Too funny!!

I also need my mechanic. Is it alright to criticize mechanics if they form a monopoly and start to fuck us all up the ass?
Another newbie who doesn't really know what's been said over time. You can criticize the police as many do here, including myself in the past, in the G20 and with respect with RCMP cases in the west, of course you wouldn't know that, but you'd better back it up. For instance we've gone from cops are crooked, to drug cops are crooked, to drug cops can't help but be crooked, to a lot of drug cops are crooked, to finally well there are a good cops and bad cops. It happens almost every time. A hyperbolic claim that after close examination of isolated or rare cases to support the rant ends up in some more reasonable claim. Even in your claim, if you criticize the cops we're hypocrites, which of course is wrong. criticize but have some facts to backs them up.

Remember, half the cops make 100g's, well apparently not. Remember, cops only need to be 18 and a high school grad to be a cop, apparently not. cops make bags of money working all the pay duty hours, apparently not so. These aren't hypocritical comments, they're just down right lies. There's more, but you get my drift.
 

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I have been following this case in Windsor.

http://www.windsorstar.com/news/suit+alleges+Windsor+cops+circled+ranks+coverup/5613604/story.html


WINDSOR, Ont. -- A Windsor cop pounded an innocent man senseless, then he and other officers lied to cover up the crime, according to a $14.2-million lawsuit filed by a doctor beaten up by Det. David Van Buskirk.

"These facts demonstrate the pervasive and malicious operation of the Windsor Police culture," says the statement of claim filed in Superior Court by Dr. Tyceer Abouhassan.

The statement of claim, which has yet to be tested in court, paints a picture of what allegedly transpired on April 22, 2010, outside the Jackson Park Medical Centre when Abouhassan suffered a concussion, broken nose, bruised ribs and detached retina. The statement of claim's version of events is backed by eyewitnesses and security video, according to the document.

It goes on to detail actions by individual police officers who allegedly conspired to protect one of their own by pursuing trumped-up charges against an innocent man.

According to the lawsuit, Abouhassan was minding his own business, jogging from the train station to the medical centre after arriving from London where he was completing his endocrinology fellowship at St. Joseph's hospital.

He had put his backpack on a windowsill and was rummaging through it for his cellphone when Van Buskirk came up behind him and accused him of harassing a girl in the park. When Abouhassan said he hadn't harassed anyone, Van Buskirk grabbed him by the neck, pinned him against the building and began punching him in the face and head, according to the lawsuit.

Van Buskirk continued to beat the doctor even after Abouhassan had fallen to the ground unconscious, the lawsuit alleges.

According to the lawsuit, Van Buskirk's daughter had been at Parkside Tennis Club for a lesson when a man, whose generic description could have matched Abouhassan, began speaking to her. The man was asked by employees to leave, but he was seen later approaching the Van Buskirk vehicle when Van Buskirk's wife arrived at the tennis club to pick up their daughter.

The daughter called her dad who "took it upon himself " to attend the tennis club. En route, Van Buskirk spotted Abouhassan jogging and followed him to the medical centre.

After the beating, Van Buskirk called his wife, according to the lawsuit. She came to the parking lot and told Van Buskirk he had the wrong man.

Van Buskirk arrested Abouhassan, charging him with assaulting police. Later, he filed a report depicting Abouhassan as the aggressor. Van Buskirk said that after identifying himself as a police officer, Abouhassan grabbed his shirt and punched him in the face.

"In a general occurrence report prepared by Van Buskirk to support a charge of assault police against Dr. Abouhassan, he falsely claimed that Dr. Abouhassan had initially struck him," the suit says. "Unbeknownst to Van Buskirk, there was a video that captured the altercation from beginning to end. There were also civilian eyewitnesses who witnessed the altercation."

The suit names other officers who saw the video but went along with Van Buskirk's version of events.

Det. Kent McMillan is identified as the officer charged with investigating the incident. "Despite having video and eyewitness evidence to the contrary, McMillan created an occurrence report alleging that Dr. Abouhassan had assaulted Van Buskirk in order to aid Van Buskirk's coverup," the lawsuit alleges.

Sgt. Al Pizzicaroli is identified as the officer who guarded Abouhassan in the hospital, relieving a junior officer who had been charged with the task. Staff Sgt. Mike LaPorte attended the hospital and served Abouhassan with a summons to appear in court, a document the suit refers to as a "promise to appear." Insp. Randy Gould was in charge of the Criminal Investigations Branch which oversaw the investigation against Abouhassan.

All are said to be part of the "conspiracy" to frame Abouhassan. The suit says police officers continued the "malicious prosecution" of Abouhassan to have a bargaining chip in any complaint against Van Buskirk.

The suit also names two police staff sergeants, Paul Bridgeman and Patrick Kane. Both currently face Police Act charges in relation to the case. According to the doctor, the officers approached Abouhassan's lawyer on two dates to coerce him into dropping his complaint against Van Buskirk. They attempted to broker a deal in which police would drop the charges against the doctor if he co-operated with the police coverup, the suit alleges.

The lawsuit notes that police waited nearly two weeks to officially begin court proceedings against Abouhassan, bringing the charges before a justice of the peace only "after he refused to accept the offers."

In all, the suit names 10 police officers, including Chief Gary Smith. It says all committed "the torts of malicious prosecution, misfeasance in public office, false imprisonment and negligent investigation."

Van Buskirk called for an ambulance to take Abouhassan to hospital. Once there, approximately 15 police officers in uniform stood outside Abouhassan's emergency room, the suit says.

The number of officers at the hospital was one of Abouhassan's complaints to the province's Office of the Independent Police Review Director.

The charges against Abouhassan were stayed by the Crown following an investigation by the province's police watchdog. Van Buskirk was charged criminally with assault causing bodily harm and public mischief. After firing his lawyer and winning several adjournments in his case, Van Buskirk is scheduled to stand trial in June 2012.

The lawsuit alludes to further Police Act charges against him and other officers. It says OIPRD investigators concluded Van Buskirk committed the offences of discreditable conduct, excessive use of force, unlawful arrest and deceit. McMillan, in backing up Van Buskirk with his allegedly bogus report, committed the offence of discreditable conduct and deceit, the lawsuit says the OIPRD concluded.

The parties named in the lawsuit have yet to file statements of defence with the court. Contacted Wednesday, the chief of police declined to comment on behalf of himself or his officers.

Read more: http://www.windsorstar.com/news/sui...anks+coverup/5613604/story.html#ixzz1bzFaOHNP
 

blackrock13

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how on earth would you know this?
People who live in the area do have friends and do talk to these friends about their neighbourhoods. It's one way to affect quick response. I wouldn't be surprised if the Forest hill neighbourhood doesn't have the same arrangement but nobody there talks to me as much. It's not like they have a ETF team assigned. High end security companies do the same thing for their clients executives. No big secret.
 

blackrock13

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I have been following this case in Windsor.

http://www.windsorstar.com/news/suit+alleges+Windsor+cops+circled+ranks+coverup/5613604/story.html


WINDSOR, Ont. -- A Windsor cop pounded an innocent man senseless, then he and other officers lied to cover up the crime, according to a $14.2-million lawsuit filed by a doctor beaten up by Det. David Van Buskirk.

"These facts demonstrate the pervasive and malicious operation of the Windsor Police culture," says the statement of claim filed in Superior Court by Dr. Tyceer Abouhassan.

The statement of claim, which has yet to be tested in court, paints a picture of what allegedly transpired on April 22, 2010, outside the Jackson Park Medical Centre when Abouhassan suffered a concussion, broken nose, bruised ribs and detached retina. The statement of claim's version of events is backed by eyewitnesses and security video, according to the document.

It goes on to detail actions by individual police officers who allegedly conspired to protect one of their own by pursuing trumped-up charges against an innocent man.

According to the lawsuit, Abouhassan was minding his own business, jogging from the train station to the medical centre after arriving from London where he was completing his endocrinology fellowship at St. Joseph's hospital.

He had put his backpack on a windowsill and was rummaging through it for his cellphone when Van Buskirk came up behind him and accused him of harassing a girl in the park. When Abouhassan said he hadn't harassed anyone, Van Buskirk grabbed him by the neck, pinned him against the building and began punching him in the face and head, according to the lawsuit.

Van Buskirk continued to beat the doctor even after Abouhassan had fallen to the ground unconscious, the lawsuit alleges.

According to the lawsuit, Van Buskirk's daughter had been at Parkside Tennis Club for a lesson when a man, whose generic description could have matched Abouhassan, began speaking to her. The man was asked by employees to leave, but he was seen later approaching the Van Buskirk vehicle when Van Buskirk's wife arrived at the tennis club to pick up their daughter.

The daughter called her dad who "took it upon himself " to attend the tennis club. En route, Van Buskirk spotted Abouhassan jogging and followed him to the medical centre.

After the beating, Van Buskirk called his wife, according to the lawsuit. She came to the parking lot and told Van Buskirk he had the wrong man.

Van Buskirk arrested Abouhassan, charging him with assaulting police. Later, he filed a report depicting Abouhassan as the aggressor. Van Buskirk said that after identifying himself as a police officer, Abouhassan grabbed his shirt and punched him in the face.

"In a general occurrence report prepared by Van Buskirk to support a charge of assault police against Dr. Abouhassan, he falsely claimed that Dr. Abouhassan had initially struck him," the suit says. "Unbeknownst to Van Buskirk, there was a video that captured the altercation from beginning to end. There were also civilian eyewitnesses who witnessed the altercation."

The suit names other officers who saw the video but went along with Van Buskirk's version of events.

Det. Kent McMillan is identified as the officer charged with investigating the incident. "Despite having video and eyewitness evidence to the contrary, McMillan created an occurrence report alleging that Dr. Abouhassan had assaulted Van Buskirk in order to aid Van Buskirk's coverup," the lawsuit alleges.

Sgt. Al Pizzicaroli is identified as the officer who guarded Abouhassan in the hospital, relieving a junior officer who had been charged with the task. Staff Sgt. Mike LaPorte attended the hospital and served Abouhassan with a summons to appear in court, a document the suit refers to as a "promise to appear." Insp. Randy Gould was in charge of the Criminal Investigations Branch which oversaw the investigation against Abouhassan.

All are said to be part of the "conspiracy" to frame Abouhassan. The suit says police officers continued the "malicious prosecution" of Abouhassan to have a bargaining chip in any complaint against Van Buskirk.

The suit also names two police staff sergeants, Paul Bridgeman and Patrick Kane. Both currently face Police Act charges in relation to the case. According to the doctor, the officers approached Abouhassan's lawyer on two dates to coerce him into dropping his complaint against Van Buskirk. They attempted to broker a deal in which police would drop the charges against the doctor if he co-operated with the police coverup, the suit alleges.

The lawsuit notes that police waited nearly two weeks to officially begin court proceedings against Abouhassan, bringing the charges before a justice of the peace only "after he refused to accept the offers."

In all, the suit names 10 police officers, including Chief Gary Smith. It says all committed "the torts of malicious prosecution, misfeasance in public office, false imprisonment and negligent investigation."

Van Buskirk called for an ambulance to take Abouhassan to hospital. Once there, approximately 15 police officers in uniform stood outside Abouhassan's emergency room, the suit says.

The number of officers at the hospital was one of Abouhassan's complaints to the province's Office of the Independent Police Review Director.

The charges against Abouhassan were stayed by the Crown following an investigation by the province's police watchdog. Van Buskirk was charged criminally with assault causing bodily harm and public mischief. After firing his lawyer and winning several adjournments in his case, Van Buskirk is scheduled to stand trial in June 2012.

The lawsuit alludes to further Police Act charges against him and other officers. It says OIPRD investigators concluded Van Buskirk committed the offences of discreditable conduct, excessive use of force, unlawful arrest and deceit. McMillan, in backing up Van Buskirk with his allegedly bogus report, committed the offence of discreditable conduct and deceit, the lawsuit says the OIPRD concluded.

The parties named in the lawsuit have yet to file statements of defence with the court. Contacted Wednesday, the chief of police declined to comment on behalf of himself or his officers.

Read more: http://www.windsorstar.com/news/sui...anks+coverup/5613604/story.html#ixzz1bzFaOHNP
Fucking pigs. Thank goodness I don't go to Windsor that much. It must be that bad influence from them lab experiment cops across the water in Detroit. Their animals.

Oh, wait a minute, never mind.

Really, that not good, let's hope things go the way they should. It's clear the cop know how to work the system, so the process/case has to be done one step better.
 

red

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People who live in the area do have friends and do talk to these friends about their neighbourhoods. It's one way to affect quick response. I wouldn't be surprised if the Forest hill neighbourhood doesn't have the same arrangement but nobody there talks to me as much. It's not like they have a ETF team assigned. High end security companies do the same thing for their clients executives. No big secret.
i live in the bridal path and i have never heard this.
 

red

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So, go down to Lawrence or over to Bayview and look around the side streets.
strangely enough I do travel around the neighbourhood and with the exception of the occasional cop giving tickets (like this morning) for not stopping at stop signs- i only see private security around.
 
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