Is Rob Ford doing a good job?

Do you think Rob Ford is doing a good job?

  • Yes

    Votes: 99 39.0%
  • No

    Votes: 155 61.0%

  • Total voters
    254

avxl1003

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That's fucking funny.

Love the comments, "Medium Black with Extra Gravy"

or "for the rest of the day, Tim Horton's was out of bacon"
Typical ford supporter


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This is Howard Mendoza and he's got some nerve coming to an anti-Ford rally. He also happens to be from Mississauga yfrog.com
Ford supporter = somebody who doesn't actually live in Toronto
 

avxl1003

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Personally, I thought it was beyond awesome when Rob Ford blamed the Ontario NDP government of the early 1990s for the global recession.

Seriously??? Who ties this guys shoes in the morning?
 

emerging44

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You suggested that residents south of Bloor/Danforth were subsidizing snow removal in the suburbs that they don't receive themselves.

I responded that suburban residents, on average, pay more tax based on ACTUAL market value of their homes than those in the downtown core because the MVA for downtown houses is lower than the actual value by more than it is in the 'burbs. In this sense, the suburban residents are taxed more heavily than the downtowners and, therefor, are subsidizing some of their services. You then didn't understand this simple concept and I explained it again. I think that catches us up to the present.
With respect, your argument is simplistic and has been used selectively by both sides depending on their intended outcome. The reality is that MVA is a very easy way to make a lot of money from tax payers but bears no relationship to the every day reality of living in one area or another. In fact, suburban taxpayers DO get a free ride and are HIGHLY subsidized by downtowners. The cost of services provided downtown is substantially lower PER CAPITA than the same services provided in suburbia.
 

Blue-Spheroid

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I believe he's talking about economies of scale. In some instances, his premise is correct; in others, not so much.
The "suburbs" are not countryside as economies of scale don't apply. On the other hand, consider the cost of running a water service to a house in North York compared with excavating in the old city of Toronto. Consider that downtown residents are far better served by transit. Consider that downtown streets are plowed first. They can thank the suburban taxpayers later, if they wish.
 

K Douglas

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For those of you who don't think Ford is doing a good job name three decisions he has made that you think were negative for Torontonians.
 

oldjones

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Cancelling the vehicle registration tax, killing Transit City, giving the police union a generous raise then asking Blair to trim a budget that is mostly salaries by 10%.
 

avxl1003

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For those of you who don't think Ford is doing a good job name three decisions he has made that you think were negative for Torontonians.
- Not attending Gay Pride because he had to be at his family cottage
- Canceling the vehicle registration tax
- Freezing property tax increases
- Canceling transit city
- Calling a truce over the "war on the car" while declaring war on the bicycle


How about naming 3 decisions he has made that you think were positive for Toronto.
 

red

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- Not attending Gay Pride because he had to be at his family cottage
- Canceling the vehicle registration tax
- Freezing property tax increases
- Canceling transit city
- Calling a truce over the "war on the car" while declaring war on the bicycle


How about naming 3 decisions he has made that you think were positive for Toronto.
decisions which were positive:

- Canceling the vehicle registration tax
- Freezing property tax increases
- Canceling transit city
- Calling a truce over the "war on the car" while declaring war on the bicycle
 

fuji

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Cancelling the vehicle registration tax, killing Transit City, giving the police union a generous raise then asking Blair to trim a budget that is mostly salaries by 10%.
That pluls giving the TTC employees "Jobs for life", paying huge and unnecessary severance packages out to the community housing execs, and trying to enrich his developer buddies by selling off Toronto waterfront lands on the cheap.
 

avxl1003

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decisions which were positive:

- Canceling the vehicle registration tax
- Freezing property tax increases
- Canceling transit city
- Calling a truce over the "war on the car" while declaring war on the bicycle
- Cancelling the vehicle registration tax
Are we not running a deficit?

- Freezing property tax increases
See above

- Canceling transit city
You think Toronto's transit city is sufficient??? OH!!! You actually believe that somehow this "privately funded Subway" is getting built!!! That's cute...

- Calling a truce over the "war on the car" while declaring war on the bicycle
You're absolutely right.. Folks have no right to feel safe on a bicycle.. Especially when they should all be in their cars!
 

red

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- Cancelling the vehicle registration tax
Are we not running a deficit?

- Freezing property tax increases
See above

- Canceling transit city
You think Toronto's transit city is sufficient??? OH!!! You actually believe that somehow this "privately funded Subway" is getting built!!! That's cute...

- Calling a truce over the "war on the car" while declaring war on the bicycle
You're absolutely right.. Folks have no right to feel safe on a bicycle.. Especially when they should all be in their cars!
i don't think the city's transit is sufficient. i think we need to build more subways, alot more subways. i think transit city was really small minded.

with respect to the deficit- i would be ok with raising taxes to pay for more subways and other things, but not just to pay for the vast increase in employees and wages which occurred under miller's reign of terror.

on the bike issue- i think the current proposals being forward are better for bikes and there was never a need for a war on the car.
 

LKD

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Rob ford is an idiot who'll ruin Toronto. Development of the waterfront to make it an attraction and more accessible to the public has been in the works for over a decade now. Extensive studies and international competitions with a list of world renowned architects, landscape and urban designers have taken place. Rob Ford is a moron for wanting to scrap all the work that has gone on until now, and instead build another shopping center.

here is a letter written and signed by over 150 intelligent thinkers in Toronto opposing Rob Fords idea.


http://torontoist.com/2011/09/urban-thinkers-line-up-against-fords-waterfront-plan/
 

fuji

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i don't think the city's transit is sufficient. i think we need to build more subways, alot more subways. i think transit city was really small minded.
Do you think the cancellation of the Eglington subway line was small minded?
 

LKD

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i don't think the city's transit is sufficient. i think we need to build more subways, alot more subways. i think transit city was really small minded.

with respect to the deficit- i would be ok with raising taxes to pay for more subways and other things, but not just to pay for the vast increase in employees and wages which occurred under miller's reign of terror.

on the bike issue- i think the current proposals being forward are better for bikes and there was never a need for a war on the car.
I can't understand why Toronto can't make the entire city more bike friendly... have designated bike lanes and such. I've travelled in much smaller cities in Europe with a lot more density, and they don't seem to have any trouble with making designated bike lanes. Its just too dangerous to ride bikes in Toronto.

There is indeed insufficient transit around the city but more subways is not the best solution. We have to let go of this old mentality of bigger is better, machines over beings etc.. The city is so dependent on cars and transit. We have to get to the root of the problem and I think increasing the density in a city is one of the best solutions. We cant expect our cities to run as efficiently and become as user friendly as some European cities if we choose to let modern machinery and cars to govern how we design cities.
 

duang

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Ford's a buffoon but I will take him over David Miller all day long. Being dumb is a positive trait for politicians: hopefully they get less done and the less government the better.

Look at Obama after Bush: by the time the dust settles and he finishes Bob Rae-ing the US economy into the toilet I think Bush will be treated a lot better by historians.

In any case, that's the nature of politics: you get screwed by liars of one political leaning and then the pendulum swings the other way and you have to put up with the other idiots.

I'm glad I live outside Toronto now...

D.
 
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