Nabil Abdul Rashid (Comedian) Responds to David Starkey "Whites Have become Black"

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Nabil Abdul Rashid (Comedian) Responds to David Starkey "Whites Have become Black"

I'm not black, but when I saw David Starkey's interview entitled: "Whites have become Black", it embarrassed me and took me back to when I was a young boy and had to put up with friends of my family, uncles, aunt's views that even then sickened me. Nabil better known as a comic does an excellent job in taking on Starkey's outdated racists comments...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tacNkKjxPA&feature=share
 

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outdated racist comments? i dont think so....comments like this are current and ongoing...in fact you just have to go through some posts on this board to realize that..................racism is alive and kicking
 

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"Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers."

Socrates, 5th Century B.C.
 

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Socrates, 5th Century B.C.
They forced Socrates to drink hemlock and Greece has been on the decline ever since. BTW: Alexander the Great was not Greek but Cleopatra was descended from a Greek general who was granted Egypt by Alex as a reward for loyal service.
 

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They forced Socrates to drink hemlock and Greece has been on the decline ever since. BTW: Alexander the Great was not Greek but Cleopatra was descended from a Greek general who was granted Egypt by Alex as a reward for loyal service.
Thanks for unnecessarily taking yet another thread in a completely different direction 'slinger.
 

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They forced Socrates to drink hemlock and Greece has been on the decline ever since. BTW: Alexander the Great was not Greek but Cleopatra was descended from a Greek general who was granted Egypt by Alex as a reward for loyal service.
OK. I'll play. How has Greece been on the decline ever since the death of Socrates? The Byzantine Empire lasted for approximately a millennium. Most of its aristocracy and military were Greek. By the way, Ptolemy I was Macedonian, not Greek.
 

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They forced Socrates to drink hemlock and Greece has been on the decline ever since. BTW: Alexander the Great was not Greek but Cleopatra was descended from a Greek general who was granted Egypt by Alex as a reward for loyal service.
Rockslinger, you are incorrect. Alexander the Great was Greek, in the sense that he was culturally Greek and spoke it as his native language (the ancient kingdom of Macedonia was clearly culturally Greek at this time, and must be distinguished from modern-day Macedonia, whose people are a mixture of the original Macedonian Greek population and Slavic-speaking peoples who migrated into that area).
 

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OK. I'll play. How has Greece been on the decline ever since the death of Socrates? The Byzantine Empire lasted for approximately a millennium. Most of its aristocracy and military were Greek. By the way, Ptolemy I was Macedonian, not Greek.
Greece use to be the centre of the universe. Fast forward to 2011 and they are insolvent. My Greek friends say that Cleopatra was ethically Greek.
 

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(the ancient kingdom of Macedonia was clearly culturally Greek at this time, and must be distinguished from modern-day Macedonia, whose people are a mixture of the original Macedonian Greek population and Slavic-speaking peoples who migrated into that area).
My Macedonia friends say that Alex was Macedonian.
 

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My Macedonia friends say that Alex was Macedonian.
As I've posted earlier, ancient Macedonians and modern-day Macedonians are not identical. The Ancient Macedonians were a Greek-speaking people (essentially, a tribe of Greeks) who lived in the kingdom of Macedonia (comprising of the modern nation of Macedonia and northern Greece).

Modern-day Macedonians are those who are from the modern-day nation of Macedonia and are descended from a mixture of the Ancient Macedonians and Slavic-speaking peoples who settled in that region, and speak a Slavic language, related to Bulgarian and more distantly to Serbo-Croatian.

Alexander the Great was an Ancient Macedonian by the above definition, and therefore was Greek.
 

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Greece use to be the centre of the universe. Fast forward to 2011 and they are insolvent. My Greek friends say that Cleopatra was ethically Greek.
Chinese civilization was as impressive as classical Greece, it just had less direct influence on Western European thought (religion, philosophy and science). The Summerian, Akkadian, Babylonian, Medean, Egyptian and Assyrian civilizations all pre-dated ancient Greece. To the extent that ancient Greece was ever the "centre of the universe" (which is about as subjective a description as possible), Byzantine civilization postdated ancient Greece by almost a millenium and lasted about as long. Greek "decline" would arguably date from when Byzantium was sacked by the fourth (?) crusade in the 13th (?) century, not from the death of Socrates.

Also, nuts to your friends, Ptolemy was Macedonian, not Greek. Alexander the Great was Macedonian as were most of the powerful generals who divided up his empire after his death (Ptolemy, Antigonus, Selecus, etc.). Eumenes was the only one who was Greek. (I think). No Wiki search done, so I could be mistaken (but, of course, I doubt it...).

... but back on topic ... racism - bad. Academics who make out-the-ass racist comments - also bad. Mainstream news organizations that allow aforementioned academics to make out-the-ass racist comments - also bad. Free speach - good. Nuts ...
 

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As I've posted earlier, ancient Macedonians and modern-day Macedonians are not identical. The Ancient Macedonians were a Greek-speaking people (essentially, a tribe of Greeks) who lived in the kingdom of Macedonia (comprising of the modern nation of Macedonia and northern Greece).

Modern-day Macedonians are those who are from the modern-day nation of Macedonia and are descended from a mixture of the Ancient Macedonians and Slavic-speaking peoples who settled in that region, and speak a Slavic language, related to Bulgarian and more distantly to Serbo-Croatian.

Alexander the Great was an Ancient Macedonian by the above definition, and therefore was Greek.
The anciant Macedonians, like the ancient Thracians, were Greek speaking peoples. For that matter, so were the anciant Bactrians (after conquest by Alexander). Language does not equal ethnicity or cultural identity. There is ample evidence that Greeks at the time of the Macedonian conquests did not consider Illyrians, Macedonians, Thracians etc. to be Greeks.
 
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I think Martin Luther Kings agrees with David Starkley


Is this it? This is what I got all those ass-whoopings for? I had a dream once. It was a dream that little black boys and little black girls would drink from the river of prosperity, freed from the thirst of oppression. But lo and behold, some four decades later, what have I found but a bunch of trifling, shiftless, good-for-nothing niggers? And I know some of you don't want to hear me say that word. It's the ugliest word in the English language, but that's what I see now: niggers. And you don't want to be a nigger, 'cause niggers are living contradictions! Niggers are full of unfulfilled ambitions! Niggers wax and wane, niggers love to complain! Niggers love to hear themselves talk but hate to explain! Niggers love being another man's judge and jury! Niggers procrastinate until it's time to worry! Niggers love to be late, niggers hate to hurry! Black Entertainment Television is the worst thing I've ever seen in my life! Usher, "Michael Jackson" is *not* a genre of music! And now I'd like to talk about "Soul Plane". I've seen what's around the corner, I've seen what's over the horizon, and I promise you, you niggers won't have nothing to celebrate. And no, I won't get there with you. I'm going to Canada.
 

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OK. I'll play. How has Greece been on the decline ever since the death of Socrates? The Byzantine Empire lasted for approximately a millennium. Most of its aristocracy and military were Greek. By the way, Ptolemy I was Macedonian, not Greek.
this is great, i have the imbecile on ignore and you guys are quoting him..and i can see his idiotic statements..lol
 

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Also, nuts to your friends, Ptolemy was Macedonian,
I actually checked my old Compton Encyclopedia and it says Cleopatra was Greek.
Alexander the Great was Macedonian ...
Yes, on this we agree. I even walked down to my local Greek social club (old Greek men telling war stories) and to a man they said Alex was Macedonian. In fact, some of the senior members of that club said they served under Alex.
 

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"Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers."

Socrates, 5th Century B.C.
Fast forward to the 21st century and Socrates is still right. Maybe that is why Greece is broke.
 
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