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No, the world isn't perfectly frictionless to the movement of labor (any adult should understand this) but we are moving toward a more global economy where companies like Apple get a lions share of their revenue in the ROW (62% in Apple's case last quarter) and employ people in those markets. Given that Apple has been able to keep 75% of the salaries in the US while leveraging the global supply chain is in itself remarkable, and they are growing in the US (adding 1,300 jobs in temporary offices in SF). Companies are not responsible for public policy in a nation, they have to respond/deal with it but they are not responsible for it.

You have a painfully simplistic view of the world and the global economy, even a highly biased and partisan economist like Paul Krugman would argue that globalization has very little to do with the inequities you see - your well aligned with Pekkkr on this point which should cause you concern. If you've ever been to where most of the people in the world live (Asia, Africa, Latin America) you will realize that the rest of the world is nothing like North America and Western Europe - we live in a gated community of privilege and connivence, our cries of pain and inequity sound hollow to most of the world.

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No one polishs the Corporatist turd better than you bottie!
Now get back under your boss' desk....:rolleyes:
 

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No one polishs the Corporatist turd better than you bottie!
Now get back under your boss' desk....:rolleyes:
OW, see what I mean, is this the guy you want to agree with?

LOL

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OW, see what I mean, is this the guy you want to agree with?

LOL

OTB
LMAO!!!!!
Better than being a corporate knob gobbler.....




.....not that there is anything wrong with that.....
 

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OW, see what I mean, is this the guy you want to agree with?

LOL

OTB
Ha Ha

As long as WoodPeker is the voice of the Lonnie left, there is little chance of a successful Lefty revolution.
Nobody takes a clown too seriously.
 

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OTB - Respectfully, and in all seriousness, I think your experiences in technology have coloured your views of globalization, with visions of Indian PhDs making it to California
and flip-flopping back across continents.

It's the exception, not the rule - when you look at the industries outside technology (I've spent time in both), it becomes pretty clear how the world really works, again, I
mean that seriously.

The Chinese have done well precisely because they understood how everyone else cheats and did it on steriods. They created labour apartheid (mimicking the US with
the Mexican situation) to keep labour costs down by having people from villages with no permits to be in cities to keep the city labour demands down. They created
special economic zones, joint venture rules, currency manipulation and five dozen other things, including variations of immigration manipulation, to game the system
to their advantage.

The US does all of those things too, except by not being internally honest about it, we have this false view of how the world works in the media, and frankly, in
some of your less thoughtful posts.

The defence industry in the US is NOT a level playing field. Wall Street is NOT a level playing field. Farming is NOT level ... I could go on and on. The Auto Pact
is about as close to free trade as Japan offered in the 70s.

When Western companies tried to get into Japan, they didn't argue about the rules that "barred" them, they argued about the unwritten stuff that really screwed them.
That's what I'm getting at - we keep the "unwritten" stuff at a policy level for some people, and not others, but it's gotten out of whack with reality.

As far as Woody's posts, I understand WHY he's mad, even if he and I might disagree on precise explanations.

Let's leave it at that for now.

Take care, OW

Some jobs are portable and some are not. You've tried to make this a class warfare issue (executives don't have to compete but manufacturing does), I'm simply pointed out that there are jobs at every level that are portable and not - it's not a class thing..... I would continue to contend that those high paying Wallstreet jobs so few of you understand and so many of you hate are very portable (i.e. the best player anywhere in the world can get to NY and make a killing) while many blue collar jobs are not (plumbers, carpenters, electricians, sanitation, trucking.....). Farming is a great example (yours) of where we and the EU have constructed all sorts of subsidies and barriers to protect an industry - all of that should come down so that poorer farmers in developing countries can more effectively compete.

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You've tried to make this a class warfare issue....
It is a class warfare issue!
You would see this if you didn't spend so much time under your boss' desk!...:eyebrows:
 
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