The ten solitudes of Toronto dating
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I`ve replied to you here: https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...-Fuji-Thread&p=3629511&viewfull=1#post3629511
The behaviour was described as exploitative to the womenWhobee, it's unclear where you say the misrepresentation is. Blue Spheroid said Fuji's behavior was repellant because it was exploitative. Also, it's not bias toward the OP, it is just as blue spheroid suggested, the thread runs the risk of slipping from chasing women who happen to be immigrant to hunting vulnerable women. If you can't see that risk is ever present when a discussion is led by fuji, visit the optometrist or brain surgeon, whichever you decide is most appropriate.
.because they are desperately seeking a legal partner to help them remain in Canada.
As this was not the case I consider it a misrepresentation.
The woman in question does not appear to be vulnerable other than she has a desire for some companionship (understandable for anyone new to a city) and seems to be quite capable without assistance. This doesn't strike me as exploitation.
Anyone who knows much about immigration to either Canada or the U.S.A. knows that the time lines for everything are dramatically shorter for those married to a national, plus absent immigration fraud it is a guaranteed path to nationality. Hence the vulnerability is always going to be there.The woman in question does not appear to be vulnerable other than she has a desire for some companionship.
It would be wrong, however, to describe someone who is already on a clear path to citizenship as "desperate".Anyone who knows much about immigration to either Canada or the U.S.A. knows that the time lines for everything are dramatically shorter for those married to a national, plus absent immigration fraud it is a guaranteed path to nationality. Hence the vulnerability is always going to be there.
In my opinion, having direct personal experience with several different women, they are not overly insecure about their immigration status. Their insecurity relates to being women alone in a foreign city, with limited income, and no social support network. They're nervous about their ability to cope with problems if they come up. They've been thrown into the deep end of a foreign country and culture, having never travelled in their life before, and they're scared of what they don't know about their new home. On top of that, in many cases they immigrated precisely BECAUSE they wanted to see the world and gain exposure to a new culture, and they feel somewhat trapped into their immigrant ghetto, and looking in a positive sense for opportunities to experience Canadian culture.
They are, therefore, strongly motivated to build relationships with people in the local community. They would love to have a local boyfriend, who can help them navigate the Canadian system, as well as provide emotional support, and on top of that expose them to the local culture which is in many cases what they came here for in the first place.
Are they insecure? Certainly. Desperate to start a relationship with someone local? I said so, and I think so--it's debatable, but I believe it. But it's wrong to describe it as desperation driven by immigration status.
I`ve replied to you here: https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...-Fuji-Thread&p=3629580&viewfull=1#post3629580
I`ve replied to you here: https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...-Fuji-Thread&p=3629584&viewfull=1#post3629584
The potential for exploitation may exist if the person had an insistent need to speed up the process, but a person's vulnerability to exploitation will vary. Dangling nationality as a reward or a threat doesn't look like it would expose any vulnerabilities in this woman.Anyone who knows much about immigration to either Canada or the U.S.A. knows that the time lines for everything are dramatically shorter for those married to a national, plus absent immigration fraud it is a guaranteed path to nationality. Hence the vulnerability is always going to be there.
That`s nice but I`m posting HERE https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?343552-The-ten-solitudes-of-Toronto-dating/page7I`ve replied to you here: https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...-Fuji-Thread&p=3629584&viewfull=1#post3629584
Perhaps - however from work experience and some personal experience I'm not at all sure about that.Dangling nationality as a reward or a threat doesn't look like it would expose any vulnerabilities in this woman.
That's with respect to my wife, idiot. Is it your view that she is also desperate and vulnerable???? She's smarter than you, far more capable than you, and far tougher than you. She probably earns more money than you do as well, and she's ex-military. I guess she doesn't need your help. Oh and she's better looking than you are, so give up on trying to date me.Well now you are definitely lying. I can't be bothered going to look for the thread, but there was one a little while back where you had pages and pages on the very topic of all of the little deceptions one has to be good at in order to be a successful cheater.
I see that despite the desires of many posters to return this thread to its topic you insist on being a crass, obnoxious troll. You have no respect for the wishes of others huh?
I see what kind of person you are. I guess everyone else does too.
Whereas I had tried to show respect for the wishes of those who wanted to discuss the original topic, you plainly have no respect for the wishes of others. That`s fine. But it does show you to be a crass, obnoxious troll in a certain sense. If you`re ok with taking on that persona I`ll indulge you.That`s nice but I`m posting HERE https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?343552-The-ten-solitudes-of-Toronto-dating/page7
All people are to some extent vulnerable. We're social animals. We need each other in various ways. None of us are a little island perfectly capable of being self sufficient without needing anything at all from others.Perhaps - however from work experience and some personal experience I'm not at all sure about that.
There is a huge difference between filling a gap in someone's life, and exploitatively manipulating them. You haven't shown that these women I'm dating aren't just having a gap filled in their life. Several posters here have made rampant assumptions that turned out to be wrong. You've verged on it. Why?
Talking about love;Well now you are definitely lying. I can`t be bothered going to look for the thread, but there was one a little while back where you had pages and pages on the very topic of all of the little deceptions one has to be good at in order to be a successful cheater. All those little deceptions, pages and pages of them as you carefully described, amount to what any reasonable person would call a carefully orchestrated web of lies: the email and phone practices, the various `tells` to use, and so on.
Psychiatrists refer to semantic aphasia as the inability to grasp the meaning of one`s own words, and psychopaths are routinely said to suffer from the condition. Sound familiar? It`s not a web of lies, its just not mentioning X. What about Y? Oh yeah, not mentioning that either. What about Q? I guess that too. And so on. Carefully orchestrated web of lies, you predator!
Of course I am in love with you! Isn`t EVERYONE???
But letting your guard down a bit, aren`t you? Like all psychopaths you have a grandiose self-representation, so it makes sense that you assume I must love you. But the common way in which psychopaths are unveiled is they get distracted by how impressed they are with themselves, and unwittingly brag just a little too much.
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You're right, there is no policy on terb that says it's a violation of the rules to be an obnoxious jerk, so go for it!People are free to discuss the topic as they see fit.
There's no point in debating with you, you aren't smart enough, and you devolve into idiotic insults. I said you were a crass obnoxious troll because you insisted on posting here, rather than on the other thread. You misrepresented that to pretend I called you a crass obnoxious troll because I disagreed with you on a point about manipulation. I didn't. When you make a point I respond to your point. I call you a crass obnoxious troll because of your crude behavior, and your disrespect for the wishes of other posters on this thread.
That was dishonest of you, and it's typical of your inability to carry on a rational conversation. You have got nothing to offer.
By the way, I don't manipulate anyone, other than that I am not honest about having other sexual partners.
Plainly I am not providing "full disclosure" to my sexual partners, and I take various steps to ensure that they do not learn of my sexual relationships with others. As such I am concealing information from them.
Most people if you use the term "manipulative" though would imagine someone who actively promotes themselves as more than they are, promises things they can't deliver, or deceptively plays on the emotions of others. I do none of that. I have not promised this woman I'm seeing on Saturday that I'm willing to be her husband, we have not even discussed whether we can or should be boyfriend or girlfriend. The topic simply has not come up. If it does come up I will just tell her that I'm happy with the relationship between the two of us the way that it is, that I like her, and that I would like to continue seeing her. I'm not going to promise her something I won't do. I also won't outright tell her that I'm married. Other than leaving out the detail that I have other sexual relationships she has a very accurate picture of who I am and what I can offer to her.
And really, who knows, if I actually fall in love with the woman what's to say I wouldn't ditch my wife? I ditched my previous live-in girlfriend for my wife, it's not like I haven't done that before. Sure, my wife would walk off with half the house and so on, but that's kind of fair, given that my wife actually paid for half the house.
Plainly I am not providing "full disclosure" to my sexual partners, and I take various steps to ensure that they do not learn of my sexual relationships with others. As such I am concealing information from them.
Most people if you use the term "manipulative" though would imagine someone who actively promotes themselves as more than they are, promises things they can't deliver, or deceptively plays on the emotions of others. I do none of that. I have not promised this woman I'm seeing on Saturday that I'm willing to be her husband, we have not even discussed whether we can or should be boyfriend or girlfriend. The topic simply has not come up. If it does come up I will just tell her that I'm happy with the relationship between the two of us the way that it is, that I like her, and that I would like to continue seeing her. I'm not going to promise her something I won't do. I also won't outright tell her that I'm married. Other than leaving out the detail that I have other sexual relationships she has a very accurate picture of who I am and what I can offer to her.
And really, who knows, if I actually fall in love with the woman what's to say I wouldn't ditch my wife? I ditched my previous live-in girlfriend for my wife, it's not like I haven't done that before. Sure, my wife would walk off with half the house and so on, but that's kind of fair, given that my wife actually paid for half the house.
... childish nonsense ... nothing worth replying to ... let me know when you have something rational, logical, or fact based to say.Regarding no rules against being an obnoxious jerk:
Clearly not, otherwise you would have been banned about twenty odd thousand posts ago! It must irk you so to have your superiority disputed so fundamentally, because the smooth and cool psychopaths facade is coming off when you have to resort to calling me an obnoxious jerk. Getting worried I might not love you yet? Unfortunately for you, I know your next move babycakes.
You're welcome to have that point of view but in the scene as described nationality was not being asked for. It also does not appear to have been offered.Perhaps - however from work experience and some personal experience I'm not at all sure about that.
Any women I know would plant their high heel boot so far up FUJIs rectum his breath would smell like shoe polish, if they found out he was married and just didn't admitted that before a date. I know, FUJI will say they never find out, just like his wife doesn't know about his adventures. Most women i know would think that was a really important thing to tell them and let them make up their minds whether he's worth the time. I wonder if he's a paid up member of Ashley Madison.Regarding no rules against being an obnoxious jerk:
Clearly not, otherwise you would have been banned about twenty odd thousand posts ago! It must irk you so to have your superiority disputed so fundamentally, because the smooth and cool psychopaths facade is coming off when you have to resort to calling me an obnoxious jerk. Getting worried I might not love you yet? Unfortunately for you, I know your next move babycakes.
I'm sure you're right. See my signature.Any women I know would plant their high heel boot so far up FUJIs rectum his breath would smell like shoe polish, if they found out he was married and just didn't admitted that before a date.
I am a paid up member of Ashley Madison, but I have not had as much luck there as I have had on ordinary dating sites, and just meeting women in public in the usual way. The women available on A.M. who will actually meet don't have waistlines that meet my requirements, at least in my experience so far. So I haven't dated any of them.
Back on the topic of this thread -- I don't think you will find any immigrant women looking to build relationships with local guys would be on A.M.
