The evils of unregulated capitalism

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The evils of unregulated capitalism

Joseph E Stiglitz Last Modified: 10 Jul 2011 08:27


Just a few years ago, a powerful ideology - the belief in free and unfettered markets - brought the world to the brink of ruin. Even in its hey-day, from the early 1980s until 2007, US-style deregulated capitalism brought greater material well-being only to the very richest in the richest country of the world.

Indeed, over the course of this ideology's 30-year ascendance, most Americans saw their incomes decline or stagnate year after year.

Moreover, output growth in the United States was not economically sustainable. With so much of US national income going to so few, growth could continue only through consumption financed by a mounting pile of debt.

I was among those who hoped that, somehow, the financial crisis would teach Americans (and others) a lesson about the need for greater equality, stronger regulation, and a better balance between the market and government.

Alas, that has not been the case.

On the contrary, a resurgence of right-wing economics, driven, as always, by ideology and special interests, once again threatens the global economy - or at least the economies of Europe and America, where these ideas continue to flourish.

In the US, this right-wing resurgence, whose adherents evidently seek to repeal the basic laws of mathematics and economics, is threatening to force a default on the national debt. If Congress mandates expenditures that exceed revenues, there will be a deficit, and that deficit has to be financed.

Rather than carefully balancing the benefits of each government expenditure program with the costs of raising taxes to finance those benefits, the right seeks to use a sledgehammer - not allowing the national debt to increase forces expenditures to be limited to taxes.

This leaves open the question of which expenditures get priority - and if expenditures to pay interest on the national debt do not, a default is inevitable. Moreover, to cut back expenditures now, in the midst of an ongoing crisis brought on by free-market ideology, would inevitably simply prolong the downturn.

A decade ago, in the midst of an economic boom, the US faced a surplus so large that it threatened to eliminate the national debt.

So what happened?

Unaffordable tax cuts and wars, a major recession, and soaring health-care costs - fueled in part by the commitment of George W Bush's administration to giving drug companies free rein in setting prices, even with government money at stake - quickly transformed a huge surplus into record peacetime deficits.

The remedies to the US deficit follow immediately from this diagnosis: put America back to work by stimulating the economy; end the mindless wars; rein in military and drug costs; and raise taxes, at least on the very rich.

But the right will have none of this, and instead is pushing for even more tax cuts for corporations and the wealthy, together with expenditure cuts in investments and social protection that put the future of the US economy in peril and that shred what remains of the social contract.

Meanwhile, the US financial sector has been lobbying hard to free itself of regulations, so that it can return to its previous, disastrously carefree, ways.

But matters are little better in Europe. As Greece and others face crises, the medicine du jour is simply timeworn austerity packages and privatisation, which will merely leave the countries that embrace them poorer and more vulnerable. This medicine failed in East Asia, Latin America, and elsewhere, and it will fail in Europe this time around, too. Indeed, it has already failed in Ireland, Latvia, and Greece.

There is an alternative: an economic-growth strategy supported by the European Union and the International Monetary Fund. Growth would restore confidence that Greece could repay its debts, causing interest rates to fall and leaving more fiscal room for further growth-enhancing investments.

Growth itself increases tax revenues and reduces the need for social expenditures, such as unemployment benefits. And the confidence that this engenders leads to still further growth.

Regrettably, the financial markets and right-wing economists have gotten the problem exactly backwards: they believe that austerity produces confidence, and that confidence will produce growth. But austerity undermines growth, worsening the government's fiscal position, or at least yielding less improvement than austerity's advocates promise. On both counts, confidence is undermined, and a downward spiral is set in motion.

Do we really need another costly experiment with ideas that have failed repeatedly? We shouldn't, but increasingly it appears that we will have to endure another one nonetheless.

A failure of either Europe or the US to return to robust growth would be bad for the global economy. A failure in both would be disastrous - even if the major emerging-market countries have attained self-sustaining growth.

Unfortunately, unless wiser heads prevail, that is the way the world is heading.

Joseph E Stiglitz is University Professor at Columbia University, a Nobel laureate in economics, and the author of Freefall: Free Markets and the Sinking of the Global Economy.
 

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Let's not overlook the evils of unregulated socialism or communism while we are at it. All "isms" need proper regulation.
 

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Let's not overlook the evils of unregulated socialism or communism while we are at it. All "isms" need proper regulation.
BITE YOUR TONGUE

Denmand is a socialist through and through and proud of it.
 

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I do not believe that free market capitalism is the cause, rather its corpoaritism that is the source of our woes.
 

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Pray tell, where would we find an example of unregulated capitalism?

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I read his book. Giving him the Nobel Prize was a travesty. The committee feels it must alternate between a conservative and liberal every year. Europe hardly had pure capitalism and it did far worse economically then the U.S. Stigler is a political economist not a true economist....huge difference. True economists are much harder to classify than pure liberal or conservative, capitalist or socialist. Most of their work, like science, is beyond the comprehension of those without extensive training.
 

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Pray tell, where would we find an example of unregulated capitalism?

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Dubya's recent Wall Street Bankster Debacle, you know that almost sent the USA into another Great Depression, was pretty much an example of unregulated capitalism!

Guess You slept through that one to, eh bottie....or is Alzheimer's setting in ?!?!?!

Fear not my sleepy little fuzzy numbers gnome.......you pals Johnny Boner and cement-headed Mitch Mcconnell, along with their pickle-brained teabaggers, are still hard at work trying to throw the USA into a Great Depression by letting the USA go into Default!....:rolleyes:
 

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You can't put any two people into a relationship without regulating it, let alone the hundreds of millions in the USA, or the billions of us around the world. The myth of 'free markets' is as destructive as the myth of any jealous and self-righteous god. Just look at the state of the 'unregulated' drug market, and how the Mexican cartels are DIYing what their government (at the behest of its northern neighbour) won't.

The point we should be grasping with both hands—and threatening our moronic party-blinded legislators and their mindless fans with—is that the regulations need to be fair and thoughtful so they can benefit all, not partisan and calculating to the advantage of a few. But whatever else, the word for a state, or anything, without regulation is 'outlaw'.

No member of society should advocate that without shame and derision being heaped on them. In the the current state of American decline the only thing sadder than how many tax-paid folks in suits have built careers on advocating outlawry is how many more listen to them as if they were holy prophets.
 

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Low tax rate, low crime rate and good economy.
I'll have to chime in agreement with Rockslinger here. Have been and done some business there. Yes, it's not a true democracy, it could safely be called a benevolent dictatorship. The place and the people there thrive. Wouldn't work here though. We (western economies) have put selfishness at the pinnacle of economic and social existence. That's simply unheard-of Asian countries, where the value of the collective is more important than the value of the one.

An example of this was shown during the nuclear accident in Japan. The evacuation was orderly, there were (as I saw anyway) no examples of looting. Try that in the US and see what happens.
 

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Are you sure about the age 50, I thought it was a bit north of that?
That's what a merchant marine seaman buddy told me. He's been all over the world. He shipped there several times and loved the place. Said it was the best place to live. He was even treated at a hospital there for a couple days for a shipboard injury. Hospital told him there was NO charge upon his release because they have Universal Healthcare for all even visitors like him.
 

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Low tax rate, low crime rate and good economy.
None of that pesky democracy and the death penalty for drug offenses.... have you ever been to Singapore - it's the most boring place on the planet.

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None of that pesky democracy and the death penalty for drug offenses.... have you ever been to Singapore - it's the most boring place on the planet.

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Doesn't sound like the Singapore I know. Mind you, I was there over Chinese New Year celebrations and the place was rocking, the babes smokin' hot, and you could stagger back to your hotel room at 4 in the morning with $100 bills hanging from your pockets, and you won't so much as get a second look.
 

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I was there over Chinese New Year celebrations and the place was rocking, the babes smokin' hot, and you could stagger back to your hotel room at 4 in the morning with $100 bills hanging from your pockets, and you won't so much as get a second look.
This is also what my merchant marine seaman buddy said about Singapore! It's safe, clean, full of HOT babes, just don't mess with drugs because they have 0 tolerance for druggies, as it SHOULD BE! Fark here in the USA drugs are a major component of the underground ecomony, FFS!....:Eek:
 

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Doesn't sound like the Singapore I know. Mind you, I was there over Chinese New Year celebrations and the place was rocking, the babes smokin' hot, and you could stagger back to your hotel room at 4 in the morning with $100 bills hanging from your pockets, and you won't so much as get a second look.
There is a death penalty for drug offenses. When I was there for work, I was given a card by customs when entering the country. It stated "death for those convicted of drug trafficking or possession".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Singapore#Misuse_of_Drugs_Act

The link also contains a image of the card I was given - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SingaporeEmbarkationCard.png

They do not fuck around in Singapore.
 
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