Do you wear a Bike Helmet?

[GameBoy27]

Ahhhh perspective!

Glad you brought that up burt-oh-my!

A "single example" usually has a name. That means the "single example" whose life was saved by wearing a helmet is someone's son, daughter, mother, brother, sister, friend or loved one. A person.

The "evidence" proved It was "likely" enough for that "single example" that the helmet had a "discernable effect" on HIS "fatality rate".

His "death from head injury" was "obviously prevented in a meaningful way."


See what light perspective can have when you look at it from the guy whose life was saved rather than the armchair of someone who I suspect doesn't participate much in sporting activities in which a helmet is a good idea.

Same academic arguments have been made by those opposing hockey helmets, face shields, mandatory life jackets in boats etc. Talk about statistics to a "single example" who has lived as a result.

Well said rub. b-o-m always goes back to the same thing that "The fact remains that the evidence shows that wearing a helmet has no discernable effect on fatality rates." while ignoring this from an article he posted:

New York City released a report on bicycle deaths and injuries: 225 cyclists died between 1996 and 2005 on New York streets; 97 percent of them were not wearing helmets. Of these deaths, 58 percent are known to involve head injury, but the actual number could be as high as 80 percent. Comparing the helmet to a seat belt in a car, Swart of the BHSI says, "When you do have that crash, you better have it on."

There's no hope for him. I say let him cycle without a helmet, drive without a seatbelt and boat without a life jacket!

 

[burt-oh-my!]

LOL, well so can you when you are hit by a meteorite.

By the way , your mentioning of reductio ad adsurdum is a VERY interesting observation - because it implies taking an argument too far into the realm of extreme unlikeliness. So a probability assessment is built into it, so thanks for proving my point.

In essence, you are saying that a head accident while riding a bike is likely enough that not wearing a helmet is stupid, would you agree to that?

And you also feel for example that a head accident while driving a car is NOT likely enough to warrant wearing a helmet, would you agree to that?

OK then, implicit in these two statements is SOME kind of rationale for choosing to wear/not wear a helmet in one case and not the other. That rationale must have as at least ONE component the probability of those two events.

Hence the need to get the facts.

 

[GameBoy27]

He can clutch his studies with his last words being "But this was highly improbable and shouldn't have happened!"

LOL

LOL, well so can you when you are hit by a meteorite.

By the way , your mentioning of reductio ad adsurdum is a VERY interesting observation - because it implies taking an argument too far into the realm of extreme unlikeliness. So a probability assessment is built into it, so thanks for proving my point.

In essence, you are saying that a head accident while riding a bike is likely enough that not wearing a helmet is stupid, would you agree to that?

And you also feel for example that a head accident while driving a car is NOT likely enough to warrant wearing a helmet, would you agree to that?

OK then, implicit in these two statements is SOME kind of rationale for choosing to wear/not wear a helmet in one case and not the other. That rationale must have as at least ONE component the probability of those two events.

Hence the need to get the facts.

Yawn!

 

[SirWanker]

LOL, well so can you when you are hit by a meteorite.

By the way , your mentioning of reductio ad adsurdum is a VERY interesting observation - because it implies taking an argument too far into the realm of extreme unlikeliness. So a probability assessment is built into it, so thanks for proving my point.

In essence, you are saying that a head accident while riding a bike is likely enough that not wearing a helmet is stupid, would you agree to that?

And you also feel for example that a head accident while driving a car is NOT likely enough to warrant wearing a helmet, would you agree to that?

OK then, implicit in these two statements is SOME kind of rationale for choosing to wear/not wear a helmet in one case and not the other. That rationale must have as at least ONE component the probability of those two events.

Hence the need to get the facts.

Brilliant deduction Burt.............

 

[S.C. Joe]

How many bike riders wear a helmet while walking, if not all, why not? U can slip and fall and hit your head, that is how that one health nut got killed in NYC.

Safest place is to stay in bed, do anything more is taking some risk, questions is how much risk are U comfortable with?

 

[blackrock13]

How many bike riders wear a helmet while walking, if not all, why not? U can slip and fall and hit your head, that is how that one health nut got killed in NYC.

Safest place is to stay in bed, do anything more is taking some risk, questions is how much risk are U comfortable with?

You may slip, fall and hit your head. I don't remember the last time I feel and hit my head. Oh, yea I do. I fell and hit my head while playing ice hockey and i was wearing a helmet. Usually when you on a bike you moving faster than walking, the resulting impact is bigger than falling while you walking. You really are a troll.

 

[genintoronto]

My bike is my main mode of transportation during summer time, and I always wear my helmet. My sister got doored riding in Montreal, and the doctor told her that the helmet saved her life. Since then, I've never even considered riding without my helmet.

Sure, I could still get killed or badly injured even with a helmet on, but it's better than nothing.

 

[blackrock13]

I don't think he is a troll. I think SC Joe honestly believes what he says. Maybe not the brightest guy, but honest.

A troll posts shit for the purpose of creating a controversy and will argue any side to continue the argument.

Like you!

Riight!

You got awfully silent when you got up slapped side the head with the claim I don't apologize and also something about a claim of a typo, in the same thread, which was somebody else's claim.

You're trying too hard to hard to be a flamer.

 

[GameBoy27]

...Quoting stats about rates of accidents is fun but beside the point. It only takes one unlucky fall.

Physics says wear a helmet. But who amongst us lets physics do the talking?! Like many things, it won't happen to us, right?

Reminds me of story of this genius!

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/ny-motorcyclist-protesting-helmet-laws-flips-over-handlebars-232109317.html

NY motorcyclist protesting helmet laws flips over his handlebars, hits head on pavement, dies!

ONONDAGA, N.Y. - A motorcyclist participating in a protest ride against helmet laws went over his handlebars, hit his head on the pavement and was killed, police said Sunday.

The motorcyclist, 55-year-old Philip A. Contos, likely would have survived the accident if he'd been wearing a helmet, state troopers said.

The accident happened Saturday afternoon in Onondaga, a town in central New York near Syracuse.

Contos was driving a 1983 Harley-Davidson on a helmet protest ride organized by the Onondaga chapter of American Bikers Aimed Towards Education, or ABATE, troopers said. The organization states that it encourages the voluntary use of helmets but opposes mandatory helmet laws.

Contos, of Parish, hit his brakes, and his motorcycle fishtailed and went out of control, flipping him over the handlebars, police said. He was pronounced dead at a hospital...

 

[diehard]

A man riding his bicycle on a sidewalk and wearing a helmet is a wuss and a disgrace.

Let me add something to my own quote.

A man riding his bicycle on a sidewalk and wearing a helmet is a wuss and a disgrace. And if he's wearing spandex on top of that, then he's fucking gay...

 

[S.C. Joe]

You may slip, fall and hit your head. I don't remember the last time I feel and hit my head. Oh, yea I do. I fell and hit my head while playing ice hockey and i was wearing a helmet. Usually when you on a bike you moving faster than walking, the resulting impact is bigger than falling while you walking. You really are a troll.

No I'm not. In the winter time people slip and fall all the time, yet who wears a helmet?

Look what happen to that guy at the Texas Rangers game, he fell and hit his head and died 1 hour later. If he wore a helmet he might have lived.

Maybe I'm 20 years ahead of my thinking, someday lot of folks will be walking around wearing helmets, just like in the past nobody on bikes wore helmets. Least in the winter time it be a good idea--same with going to Texas Ranger stadium, lol

BTW, you seem to be the Troll King on here

 

[S.C. Joe]

I don't think he is a troll. I think SC Joe honestly believes what he says. Maybe not the brightest guy, but honest.

A troll posts shit for the purpose of creating a controversy and will argue any side to continue the argument.

Like you!

I might be brighter than you think. Look up how many people slip and fell each winter while walking or shoveling snow, yet were are the safety nuts saying to wear a helmet in the wintertime ?

Its freaking dumb how some folks are. How people can bike wearing a helmet but walking on icy sidewalks they seem to think a helmet isn't needed. Guess that would not look cool.

Its were do you draw the line? In the past lots of police wore helmets driving a car, today almost none do. Yet what do NASCAR drivers do, use airbags or wear a helmet? Only reason we have airbags in cars is to blow your hands off the steering wheel so you can not use the car as a weapon, do they save lives, well I knew this cop 30 years ago who claimed to have total out 9 police cars and always had his helmet on and never was off the road for more than 2 weeks. How many people do you know that even total out 1 car with an airbag and was back on the road--ever. Doesn't happen anymore, people going 70 mph plus, crashing and living with no noticeable problems--it used to happen before airbags came about.

btw, I total out 2 cars, both no air bags and wearing no seatbelt, gee maybe thats why I seem not too bright, ha ha

 

[blackrock13]

I might be brighter than you think. Look up how many people slip and fell each winter while walking or shoveling snow, yet were are the safety nuts saying to wear a helmet in the wintertime ?

Its freaking dumb how some folks are. How people can bike wearing a helmet but walking on icy sidewalks they seem to think a helmet isn't needed. Guess that would not look cool.

Its were do you draw the line? In the past lots of police wore helmets driving a car, today almost none do. Yet what do NASCAR drivers do, use airbags or wear a helmet? Only reason we have airbags in cars is to blow your hands off the steering wheel so you can not use the car as a weapon, do they save lives, well I knew this cop 30 years ago who claimed to have total out 9 police cars and always had his helmet on and never was off the road for more than 2 weeks. How many people do you know that even total out 1 car with an airbag and was back on the road--ever. Doesn't happen anymore, people going 70 mph plus, crashing and living with no noticeable problems--it used to happen before airbags came about.

btw, I total out 2 cars, both no air bags and wearing no seatbelt, gee maybe thats why I seem not too bright, ha ha

You don't really want to know how smart I think you you are? The rest of your post just supports my thoughts..

 

[MrMessi]

Yes I do always......