A Superstar is Born: Tyler Seguin Powers Bruins Past Lightning

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Jeez, haters are looking for anything. Yes, nice game from the kid, but before we crown him the best player ever let us see if he keeps it up.
 

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you can add john druce to that list. but tyler has played well the past 2 games i hope he continues to score, of course im biased being a bruin fan.
 

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Seguin will always be talked about by both Leaf fans and haters, as if he would have been a Leaf if Burke did not make the trade.

IMO the Leafs might not have drafted Seguin if Burke didn't make the Kessel trade. Without Kessel the Leafs quite possibly finished worse than the Oilers and drafted Hall instead. It could have easily been a No.1 overall and would Burke still have traded it away ?
 

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Sequin has spent a lot of time in weight room the last 2 months building up strength.
You can see the results. He's bringing a lot of passion and energy to the team with his performance.
Very few players in the league could have done what he did on first goal and he's the first teenager in 22 years to get 4 points in a playoff game. 6 total points so far in this series for Seguin.

Game 2 highlights:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDBXbUO5YSk

Game 1 highlights:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGKbbKVBqbU&feature=related
 

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Does the name Lonny Bohonos mean anyone to anyone ... Young guy with fresh legs was put in the lineup during a playoff run and went nuts on the score board ... I am not saying this guy isn't the real deal but this is a sample size of two games and coming into the line up under the radar. Lets take into effect the game that produced this out put 11 goals in the game and so that should tell you the type of hockey that was played last night ... Although something tells me the head line doesn't reflect the content of the
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you can add john druce to that list. but tyler has played well the past 2 games i hope he continues to score, of course im biased being a bruin fan.
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Does the name Lonny Bohonos mean anyone to anyone ..
Bohonos had 9 playoff points in 9 games in 98 -99 season and was a 26 year old journeyman when he got those 9 points.
Seguin has 6 points in 2 career playoff games and he's been a highly touted 19 year old prospect while Bohonos was just some run of the mill veteran minor leaguer who played well for 3 weeks in 99 playoffs.
Bohonos was never even drafted by an NHL team because his stock was so low as an 18 or 19 year old; so, to compare him to Seguin and draw meaningful conclusions is kind of a weird reach.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8459995
 
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If he has another game like game 2 in this series there's going to be a lot of hand wringing in Leafs Nation. Few observations that I'm sure others have made. The kid is an incredible skater plus the puck control on his stick when he's at top speed was impressive. He made Roloson look old on the backhand goal. On the 2 on 1 goal you can see that he already has a natural feel for the spacing needed on a 2 on 1 chance. Doesn't seem like a big deal but a lot NHLers mess this up a lot more than they should. I think the most exciting aspect for Bruins fans was the no look backhand pass. I'd take a playmaker over a goal scorer every time.
 

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The bottom line is this...Leaf haters will look at ANYTHING and I mean ANYTHING to insult or demean the, or should I say OUR TORONTO MAPLE LEAF team. I mean realy, the guy has ONE,ONE good came, while kessel has had 4 30 goal seasons, and Trout wants to insult the Leafs for the trade. Give your head a shake man :confused: The only reason he is in the line up is because of Savards injury.
 

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The bottom line is this...Leaf haters will look at ANYTHING and I mean ANYTHING to insult or demean the, or should I say OUR TORONTO MAPLE LEAF team. I mean realy, the guy has ONE,ONE good came, while kessel has had 4 30 goal seasons, and Trout wants to insult the Leafs for the trade. Give your head a shake man :confused: The only reason he is in the line up is because of Savards injury.
Don't forget the ninth pick in this year's draft, and an early second last year, who is holding stock.

Even if you view Kessel for Seguin as "reasonable", the extra assets are very excessive, and this view is shared by many Leafs and non Leafs fans alike.
 

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Why do you call the people with different views Haters . You seem like the angry one who gets up set . You hate the people who oppose the trade .
So what your saying is you can say anything negative about the leafs and your not haters but if I stick up for my team I'm the angry one?.
I don't hate pepole, I hate people who find negativity in every fucking thing the leafs do, and besides, I have the right to stick up for my team or is that right only reserved for those people with negitive comments?

There are people that can't wait for the leasf to do something so they can comment on it and it's not there opinion it's just how they are, dosen't matter if the leafs were given, not traded for but given, Crosby, Richards, Ovechkin, and a throw in named Tim Thomas someone would say something negitve about it and hide behind that famous phraze " it's my opinion".

I'm just a fan that sticks up for his team.....and no I don't drink the kool aid.
 

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Actually it is kind of ironic but Seguin's playoff performance actually helped the Leafs. Because Boston made the final the Leafs will get an additional second round pick in the Kaberle deal. Kaberle may still do well in the final but he is getting 5/6 defenceman minutes and some PP time. I am sure the Bruins would want to have that one back - Colborne looks like a keeper and the 2nd round pick as well - steep price for a rental player.

If you actually add both trades together (Kessel, Colborne, 2nd rounder - for Kaberle rental, Seguin, 2nd rounder (forgot the name), mid first round) it doesn't look that bad. We also have to take into consideration that Kessel really has not played with a true first line center since he has been in Toronto - so there is some potential for him to score 40.
 

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Actually it is kind of ironic but Seguin's playoff performance actually helped the Leafs. Because Boston made the final the Leafs will get an additional second round pick in the Kaberle deal. Kaberle may still do well in the final but he is getting 5/6 defenceman minutes and some PP time. I am sure the Bruins would want to have that one back - Colborne looks like a keeper and the 2nd round pick as well - steep price for a rental player.

If you actually add both trades together (Kessel, Colborne, 2nd rounder - for Kaberle rental, Seguin, 2nd rounder (forgot the name), mid first round) it doesn't look that bad. We also have to take into consideration that Kessel really has not played with a true first line center since he has been in Toronto - so there is some potential for him to score 40.
Don't forget the Leafs also get Boston's first round pick this year, the 2nd rounder they get is in 2012
 

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Actually it is kind of ironic but Seguin's playoff performance actually helped the Leafs. Because Boston made the final the Leafs will get an additional second round pick in the Kaberle deal. Kaberle may still do well in the final but he is getting 5/6 defenceman minutes and some PP time. I am sure the Bruins would want to have that one back - Colborne looks like a keeper and the 2nd round pick as well - steep price for a rental player.

If you actually add both trades together (Kessel, Colborne, 2nd rounder - for Kaberle rental, Seguin, 2nd rounder (forgot the name), mid first round) it doesn't look that bad. We also have to take into consideration that Kessel really has not played with a true first line center since he has been in Toronto - so there is some potential for him to score 40.
Colborne is no longer an A Level prospect. He would not go in the first round this year if his draft class was redone. But he still has potential as a solid NHLer.

A ninth overall pick is not a "Mid First Round Pick".

As for getting an extra second rounder for Kaberle also remember that the Bruins first rounder is now only 29th or 30th overall, instead of say 23-28. So its some compensation for moving down some spots, overall slightly positive impact for the Leafs. Say 25 for 29+55. (slight advantage Leafs)

Also the second rounder the Leafs gave last year for Kessel was pick #32, so its not really different then a 29th or 30th overall first round pick they got for Kaberle... basically a wash.

But overall a very nice return for Kaberle - 29/30th pick, 55th pick, Colborne. But if Kaberle steps up his play in the Finals and is a difference maker, well worth it for the Bruins too. Noted that they have been winning in spite of him so far.
 

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Colborne is no longer an A Level prospect. He would not go in the first round this year if his draft class was redone. But he still has potential as a solid NHLer.

A ninth overall pick is not a "Mid First Round Pick".

As for getting an extra second rounder for Kaberle also remember that the Bruins first rounder is now only 29th or 30th overall, instead of say 23-28. So its some compensation for moving down some spots, overall slightly positive impact for the Leafs. Say 25 for 29+55. (slight advantage Leafs)

Also the second rounder the Leafs gave last year for Kessel was pick #32, so its not really different then a 29th or 30th overall first round pick they got for Kaberle... basically a wash.

But overall a very nice return for Kaberle - 29/30th pick, 55th pick, Colborne. But if Kaberle steps up his play in the Finals and is a difference maker, well worth it for the Bruins too. Noted that they have been winning in spite of him so far.
Where do you get the 55th pick from, how do you know where the Bruins are going to finish next year.
 

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Maurice 93 is correct about the Leafs second round pick.

I think that it will be hard to predict what the upside for Colborne is going to be. There was a sgnificant improvement in his play joining the Marlies (20 games, 8 goals, 8 assists +2, and 3 SOG) from Providence. He is huge (6-5 213) and should fill into his frame. Dobber Hockey top 215 prospects has him at #9 though Hockey News does not put him in the top 50. My point is that he could easily surpass the Boston first rounder that they pick this year. Colborne was picked #16 and up to this point he has justified that pick. It is entirely possible for Colborne to become a first line center and it would not surprise me at all if he blows by Kadri (a #7 pick) next year on the Leaf depth chart.
 

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Maurice 93 is correct about the Leafs second round pick.

I think that it will be hard to predict what the upside for Colborne is going to be. There was a sgnificant improvement in his play joining the Marlies (20 games, 8 goals, 8 assists +2, and 3 SOG) from Providence. He is huge (6-5 213) and should fill into his frame. Dobber Hockey top 215 prospects has him at #9 though Hockey News does not put him in the top 50. My point is that he could easily surpass the Boston first rounder that they pick this year. Colborne was picked #16 and up to this point he has justified that pick. It is entirely possible for Colborne to become a first line center and it would not surprise me at all if he blows by Kadri (a #7 pick) next year on the Leaf depth chart.
NO he is not correct about the Leafs 2nd round pick, the pick is a 2012 pick, Boston traded their 2011 pick to Ottawa for Chris Kelly
 

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NO he is not correct about the Leafs 2nd round pick, the pick is a 2012 pick, Boston traded their 2011 pick to Ottawa for Chris Kelly
I made the mistake assuming it was 2011. You have to guess it will be somewhere between 45-60 next year.
 
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