To all the guys that request BBFS from an SP.

[SS Sharla]

If men left it at "no" then it would be simple but they get furious when we say no and attack us with insults, change thier email, show up and try to force it on us in some cases. I think that is what cutter is pissed about. Other guys are polite and say thanks for at least responding and that is no problem. When it is a fetish and it's all they can think/talk about then it becomes a problem.

If anybody knows of girls who suggest BBFS feel free to send me thier names, with their permission of course. I would love to have somewhere to send these guys as it's not a risk I am willing to take. I have to consider my health and the health of every guy I interact with.

Does it not scare you guys that some girls offer this? What if you get carried away and the condom breaks. Then you are sleeping with half of terb.

 

[What For]

Does it not scare you guys that some girls offer this? What if you get carried away and the condom breaks. Then you are sleeping with half of terb.

Absolutely it scares me........The risk of the condom breaking is bad enough but straight out BBFS........WTF are people thinking?

 

[Major Major]

What is wrong with you guys that expect an SP to provide you with BBFS? Don’t you understand they’re offering you their most precious possession….….. their body?
What right do you have to expect an SP to put their health at risk, put your health at risk and not to mention an unwanted pregnancy? An SP is probably a woman with family that relies on her income to provide for said family.
What right do you guys have to possibly take that income away from the SP? Would you ask your SO to perform an act she’s not comfortable with? Have a little respect for the ladies, please.

Flame away.............

Whoa

Becareful who you are directing your anger at. The reason why guys ask is because girls offer it; not openly, its highly YMMV for many. But its out there...the girls are really the ones that set the bar so if you want to take your frustration out on a particular group....look to your "colleagues"

 

[Ladyraven]

Whoa

Becareful who you are directing your anger at. The reason why guys ask is because girls offer it; not openly, its highly YMMV for many. But its out there...the girls are really the ones that set the bar so if you want to take your frustration out on a particular group....look to your "colleagues"

EXCUSE ME??? oh yes classic it our faults that guys are idiots and want to risk our lives and theres for a few extra bucks..

 

[tweeter]

I wonder what type of lady would "offer" this service? I think if a lady was to "offer" me BBFS at an upcharge, I would run for the door! Maybe I've been making the proper choices so far because no one has offered me that unwanted service! I mean, that's common sense from back in high school sex ed. Are people really taking this type of risk?

 

[Meat Manager]

I wonder what type of lady would "offer" this service? I think if a lady was to "offer" me BBFS at an upcharge, I would run for the door! Maybe I've been making the proper choices so far because no one has offered me that unwanted service! I mean, that's common sense from back in high school sex ed. Are people really taking this type of risk?

Tweeter, there are entire threads and dare I say boards gloating about who offers what and a list where to find these girls. From what I gather it's an almost daily request from some providers (that don't offer it of course). I've also heard that some guys ask, just to test whether the girl would do that or not. Like that would set the mood for a good date afterward!

 

[tweeter]

I know, MM, I know. You are correct! I guess the point I'm making is you really do have to be careful about where you go "shopping", really do your homework, and think long & hard before you do anything! Again, I just shake my head...

 

[Major Major]

EXCUSE ME??? oh yes classic it our faults that guys are idiots and want to risk our lives and theres for a few extra bucks..

The guys just work with what they know they can get. And how do they know they can get it?...oh I dont know... because SPs offer this a lot more often than you'd like to think??? perhaps??? Do you think this rash of BBFS requests came out of nowhere? Raven...really you have no clue whats out there as you dont see SPs..WE do; you can only speak for yourself....

In no way am I absolving guys of personal responsibility but as a whole they are really just a result of the real problem and thats SPs offering/agreeing BBFS. Where is it do you think these guys get this idea from??? As I said...you SPs as a collective set the bar not us...you ultimately decide what will happen...not us (for the large part...we only really decide whether we stay or go)...and that you cannot argue with. Remember back about 10 years ago BBBJs were taboo; now the lack of a BBBJ would be a deal breaker. How do you think that came to be? because the guy said "do you do BBBJs?" or because the SP decided "I'm going to offer BBBJs"? If every SP were to flat out shun BBBJs and BBFS do you really think this industry would die?

SPs are in the drivers seat....and if you decide to feed the bears..... well you figure it out



So YES, you have your colleagues to blame.

 

[Brill]

Don't blame women for lowering the bar, a few guys like to take advantage of the power they have with their dollars and play one girl off the other - pressuring them to offer something they would rather not do.
Sadly, most women get into the business for economic reasons and a handful find it impossible to refuse bbfs. Most are in the driver's seat and know how to control their business but some are not.

Any guy who asks just out of curiosity or to test their willingness is also part of the problem, even if they have no intention of going bareback. They spoil the enjoyment and contribute to cynicism and hardness among the ladies.

 

[Major Major]

Don't blame women for lowering the bar, a few guys like to take advantage of the power they have with their dollars and play one girl off the other - pressuring them to offer something they would rather not do.
Sadly, most women get into the business for economic reasons and a handful find it impossible to refuse bbfs. Most are in the driver's seat and know how to control their business but some are not.

Any guy who asks just out of curiosity or to test their willingness is also part of the problem, even if they have no intention of going bareback. They spoil the enjoyment and contribute to cynicism and hardness among the ladies.

I knew someobody was going o come out with this... If they are not to blame then who is?

There are plenty of women who continue to be SGFE as in not even a BBBJ....and they still make money; granted not as much as the BBBJs girls but still a reasonable amount of money...their bills are getting paid. If there was no money in the SGFE business it would disappear. Clearly this isnt the case. If the girl bends to "pressure" from a client for fear of losing the business then she has her own greed to thank...which she is responsible for...not anybody else.


Its like going out... getting tanked....driving drunk...getting into an accident and then saying "its not the drunk driver's fault...its his friends that was peer pressuring him"

 

[Brill]

There are plenty of women who continue to be SGFE as in not even a BBBJ....and they still make money; granted not as much as the BBBJs girls but still a reasonable amount of money...their bills are getting paid. If there was no money in the SGFE business it would disappear. Clearly this isnt the case.

These sgfe women are pressured to go bbbj every day by guys on here. It's bullshit that we don't respect their menus and then turn around and blame them for adjusting them to suit us.

Who are we to say what's a reasonable amount of money for them to make? Is this an escort review board or an escort regulatory board?

 

[kelli]

I knew someobody was going o come out with this... If they are not to blame then who is?

There are plenty of women who continue to be SGFE as in not even a BBBJ....and they still make money; granted not as much as the BBBJs girls but still a reasonable amount of money...their bills are getting paid. If there was no money in the SGFE business it would disappear. Clearly this isnt the case. If the girl bends to "pressure" from a client for fear of losing the business then she has her own greed to thank...which she is responsible for...not anybody else.


Its like going out... getting tanked....driving drunk...getting into an accident and then saying "its not the drunk driver's fault...its his friends that was peer pressuring him"

Major major, I am one of those SGFE girls, and you know what? I do just fine. Many of my clients see my specifically b/c I only do safe work and compensate me accordingly to stay safe. While many men loudly hassle women for bare services there are many less noisy clients who only want to see safe girls. I am in demand with this clientle and have found a great market niche for myself. While some terbies mock me for my high standards, I stand fast by my morals and that's what most important in the end.

Adding to the discussion on BBFS, I once had an experience that really pissed me off, and all SPs should be aware of. This one guy didn't even ask, he just took it upon himself to indulge. He was about to enter me doggy style when I reached back and used my hand to guide him in. I realized that the condom wasn't on him anymore, even though I just put it on. The jerk took it off when I turned around and repositioned. He said, oops, it must've slid off. Yeah right!!

 

[Major Major]

These sgfe women are pressured to go bbbj every day by guys on here. It's bullshit that we don't respect their menus and then turn around and blame them for adjusting them to suit us.

Who are we to say what's a reasonable amount of money for them to make? Is this an escort review board or an escort regulatory board?

C'mon Brill... you think these women arent making good coin? dont be so naive...

But hey if its not enough for them and they decide to offer more mileage to make more money then thats ON THEM...its not the guy's fault

 

[Brill]

C'mon Brill... you think these women arent making good coin? dont be so naive...

But hey if its not enough for them and they decide to offer more mileage to make more money then thats ON THEM...its not the guy's fault

The ones offering BBFS are low end desperate girls - not your high priced escorts.

And yes, in general guys steer what gets offered on the menu - I guess we disagree on this.

 

[FatOne]

I am suprised the girls don't insist on bareback. I have a very hairy back, it would be less disgusting if I left my shirt on.

 

[curiousmarriedmale]

I am suprised the girls don't insist on bareback. I have a very hairy back, it would be less disgusting if I left my shirt on.

LMAO - OMG that is priceless. Hairy backs of the world unite

 

[Viper66]

I read somewhere else that when contacting a new sp he asks if the offer bbfs. If they reply yes, he moves on as he doesn't want to take the risk even with a jacket on. I myself would not ask for it. I am very happy with a bbbj and then suiting up.
I'm glad I was told about this board. I've learned a lot already and the reviews are great help.

 

[burt-oh-my!]

There are degrees of risk, from protected sex (can still get skin diseases) to DFK, to bbbj, to bbfs.

Hell, there's also the risk of getting caught, law enforcement, getting mugged, ripped off. I wonder how many friggin diseases have been transmitted by bbbj and DATY? Esp now that there is a link between DATY and throat cancer?

My point being, don't fool yourselves and get all righteous about how dangerous bbfs is when the rest of our hobby is dangerous too. Personally, i once caught something from bbbj and I am pretty wary of that now. It was not a STD - it was some kind of urinary tract infection - oh yes, non-specific urethritis.

LONG LIVE THE HANDJOB!

 

[Gntlmn1953]

I think we may be talking about two different issues - those who upon reaching an SP are just asking the question, and those who actually are looking to play Russian Roulette with STD's. There is a discussion on another board where the guy discusses using the question as part of his process for screening SP's, i.e. if she answers "Yes" then he looks elsewhere, if she answers "No" he proceeds with the booking.

Anything that helps either the guys or SP's to avoid the dirt bags, assholes, dangerous people, etc, certainly makes this a safer community for the rest of us. Sometimes somebody gets rejected merely out of a "bad feeling" or a perceived inappropriate tone or comment and sometimes that results in huge discussions on the boards with lots of emotion and opinion being thrown about. However, what I would really like to hear in this case is, do SP's feel that this question is an appropriate way of screening - obviously asking the question is a double edged sword because even if the SP isn't one of those special people who indulge in such stupidity, she now may believe, rightly or wrongly, that the person asking is a dirt bag and end the conversation immediately.

It would be nice if some people could share ideas on ways that those of us who care about the community can screen out dirt bags and make it safer for all involved. Your comments?

 

[Ladyraven]

I think we may be talking about two different issues - those who upon reaching an SP are just asking the question, and those who actually are looking to play Russian Roulette with STD's. There is a discussion on another board where the guy discusses using the question as part of his process for screening SP's, i.e. if she answers "Yes" then he looks elsewhere, if she answers "No" he proceeds with the booking.

Anything that helps either the guys or SP's to avoid the dirt bags, assholes, dangerous people, etc, certainly makes this a safer community for the rest of us. Sometimes somebody gets rejected merely out of a "bad feeling" or a perceived inappropriate tone or comment and sometimes that results in huge discussions on the boards with lots of emotion and opinion being thrown about. However, what I would really like to hear in this case is, do SP's feel that this question is an appropriate way of screening - obviously asking the question is a double edged sword because even if the SP isn't one of those special people who indulge in such stupidity, she now may believe, rightly or wrongly, that the person asking is a dirt bag and end the conversation immediately.

It would be nice if some people could share ideas on ways that those of us who care about the community can screen out dirt bags and make it safer for all involved. Your comments?

I simply will not see ANYONE who asks for bbfs...