Omar Khadr likely to sue Ottawa for millions for complicity in his torture

[rld]

You clearly don't understand the causation test.

 

[fuji]

You clearly don't understand the causation test.

"There is a sufficient connection between the government’s participation in the illegal process and the deprivation of K’s liberty and security of the person."

 

[rld]

You still don't understand the causation test.

It will actually be interesting to see if the case even goes forward now. The civil lawyer has been awful quiet since the plea.

 

[fuji]

Nothing, really, will happen until Khadr is repatriated, I think. Up until that point the govt. could argue that the SCC ruling leaves it to the govt. to decide on a remedy as it's a foreign affairs matter. Once he's repatriated and that objection is vapour I think you will see Khadr suing for millions, with a strong chance that he'll win.

 

[rld]

Nothing, really, will happen until Khadr is repatriated, I think. Up until that point the govt. could argue that the SCC ruling leaves it to the govt. to decide on a remedy as it's a foreign affairs matter. Once he's repatriated and that objection is vapour I think you will see Khadr suing for millions, with a strong chance that he'll win.

Actually, now he has plead the case his case, and damages if any, have crystalized. We know the alleged violation and the alleged outcome. Repatriation is neither here nor there now that there is a finding and a sentence.

 

[fuji]

Actually, now he has plead the case his case, and damages if any, have crystalized. We know the alleged violation and the alleged outcome. Repatriation is neither here nor there now that there is a finding and a sentence.

Unless the US renegs on the sentence and/or pulls some more bullshit and/or their SC overturns the farce. Given that they are making up the rules as they go in his case I wouldn't trust anythign they do or say until he's back on Canadian soil and out of their tyrannical power.

 

[Aardvark154]

Unless the US . . . .out of their tyrannical power.

I do hope Fuji that you make it a point never to visit either on pleasure or business the obvious epitome of evil in the world "

 

[fuji]

I do hope Fuji that you make it a point never to visit either on pleasure or business the obvious epitome of evil in the world "

The system at Gitmo is patently tyrannical, unlike the system in the US proper.

 

[rld]

Unless the US renegs on the sentence and/or pulls some more bullshit and/or their SC overturns the farce. Given that they are making up the rules as they go in his case I wouldn't trust anythign they do or say until he's back on Canadian soil and out of their tyrannical power.

All excuses not to move the case forward. With the plea, it has no legs. But time will tell. Personally I have no interest in paying to incarcerate their prisoners.

 

[fuji]

All excuses not to move the case forward. With the plea, it has no legs. But time will tell. Personally I have no interest in paying to incarcerate their prisoners.

Let's see what happens once he's repatriated. You will be wrong.

 

[rld]

Yes your vast years of litigation experience allow you to pontificate with such certainty.

I heard they were going to make you dean of the Lakehead Law School.

 

[fuji]

Yes your vast years of litigation experience allow you to pontificate with such certainty.

I heard they were going to make you dean of the Lakehead Law School.

Keep digging the hole, when the govt. settles with Khadr it's going to be delicious bringing these quotes back up.

 

[rld]

Keep digging the hole, when the govt. settles with Khadr it's going to be delicious bringing these quotes back up.

Knowing your m.o., even if the case is dismissed you will keep up the same banter. Your fanatical worldview cannot accept reality impinging.

 

[landscaper]

The government can not afford to settle with him, politically it would be a death knell for either of the major parties.

One other thing, do you actually think the repatriation deal would have been signed with a a waiver of some kind saying no lawsuit?

 

[dirk076]

Nothing, really, will happen until Khadr is repatriated, I think. Up until that point the govt. could argue that the SCC ruling leaves it to the govt. to decide on a remedy as it's a foreign affairs matter. Once he's repatriated and that objection is vapour I think you will see Khadr suing for millions, with a strong chance that he'll win.

Once free, he will leave Canada, with very good reason. Would luv to see the little fucker strolling through my town.

 

[fuji]

The government can not afford to settle with him, politically it would be a death knell for either of the major parties.

Then the courts will do it, and it'll be even more expensive for the taxpayer.

 

[fuji]

One other thing, do you actually think the repatriation deal would have been signed with a a waiver of some kind saying no lawsuit?

If the government tries to block his repatriation on that grounds he'll sue for that too, a court will order him repatriated, and the monetary award will only go up. I don't see that happening--Harper is trying to avoid the issue, not make it worse.

 

[fuji]

Once free, he will leave Canada, with very good reason. Would luv to see the little fucker strolling through my town.

I see you don't much believe in the rule of law.

 

[dirk076]

I see you don't much believe in the rule of law.

Sometimes the law is an ass. He doesn't deserve to live here and I don't believe Canadians want him to. Much like what happens to pedophiles put in with the general population of a prison. Don't think many people care when someone takes care of them either.

 

[landscaper]

If the government tries to block his repatriation on that grounds he'll sue for that too, a court will order him repatriated, and the monetary award will only go up. I don't see that happening--Harper is trying to avoid the issue, not make it worse.

If he signed off on his plea deal and a condition of that plea was no civil liability he does not have a leg to stand on.