My Havana Trip Report

[big dogie]

I to have recently returned from a week in Havana, I slept with 7 different woman and it was a fantastic trip. One of them was a pro that worked my hotel, a couple of girls I brought back to my hotel with a fee paid to the front desk. One was my maid, hey she was very cute, I think I got a reputation as the two nights before the people in the next room called to complain about all the noise coming from my room, I think this is what intrigued my maid, so of course I did my best to forward Cuban relations. The rest of the girls I meet at night clubs, I gave all the girls $100 as I wasn't there to bargain away their self respect. These woman take GFE to a new level and in fact I think real feelings developed in some instances. I can't get my mind off a couple of the girls. I don't think there is any reason to worry, but what would happen if you were to knock one of these ladies up?


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[Don Draper]

I don't think there is any reason to worry, but what would happen if you were to knock one of these ladies up?

Are you planning on keeping in touch with them? Addresses? Phone numbers? Possible E-mails?

 

[big dogie]

Possibly, but life changes when you return to the grind...

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[ExoticSpirit]

The rest of the girls I meet at night clubs, I gave all the girls $100 as I wasn't there to bargain away their self respect. These woman take GFE to a new level and in fact I think real feelings developed in some instances.

From the posts at ISG, I knew that all the girls were quoting $100 at the clubs but they could be bargained. The target figure was $60 to $70 according to all the gents at ISG so I offered the girl I like the best $60 straight up and told her if she accepted, we would be off. She took it and I still got GFE.

What was the arrangement at your hotel? At the Cohiba, I was told that $40 to the front door man would do it - and no $100 registration to front desk either.

 

[Don Draper]

From the posts at ISG, I knew that all the girls were quoting $100 at the clubs but they could be bargained. The target figure was $60 to $70 according to all the gents at ISG so I offered the girl I like the best $60 straight up and told her if she accepted, we would be off. She took it and I still got GFE.

What was the arrangement at your hotel? At the Cohiba, I was told that $40 to the front door man would do it - and no $100 registration to front desk either.

From what I'm reading in a lot of these posts is that the process of meeting a girl and spending the night with her is a lot more difficult than it has to be.

Admittedly, my M.O. is different than most other guys. Firstly, you can pay a hotel $60.00+ just to register a girl for one night or slip a guard $40.00+ so he can sneak her up to your room. Why not just rent a great apartment for $25.00- and keep the rest of the cash to party?

Secondly, I have never met a girl in a club simply because they're all on the make anyway. That's why they go to the club in the first place. I despise the 'negotiation process' and want nothing to do with it. I'm much more a fan of the GND and non-pro's so I can meet a girl in Cuba anyplace, anytime. These are the types of girls who would be mortified to ask for any $, for anything. They'll always get their gift bag with toiletries, girl stuff, clothing and of course $. At least $50.00 if not more depending on the circumstances of the day. The contribution is always, always at MY discretion. I have bought girls eyeglasses, braces, uniforms, shoes and groceries for their families. It's all a pittance compared to what we make here in North America.

The sweetness of these girls is what touches my heart the most. I don't want the 'Jineteras' out hustling in the night. I want the 'Estudiantes', girls who would normally spend the evening at home helping their Mothers with household duties. When I'm with them, I am the entire center of their attention. It's that entire, feminine attentiveness that I treasure deeply.

There are more of these girls than there are night club barflies. Although there is no future with any of these girls, one week spent with me will set them up for an entire year where they'll have new clothes, get a little spoiled and not go hungry.

And before you say: "My Spanish isn't good, Don", keep in mind that I know a lot of guys who work the same way as me and speak virtually no Spanish at all.

Perfect example of a girl I met in La Habana recently:

http://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/9631-cuban_girl_music4mix.jpg

 

[GPIDEAL]

I to have recently returned from a week in Havana, I slept with 7 different woman and it was a fantastic trip. One of them was a pro that worked my hotel, a couple of girls I brought back to my hotel with a fee paid to the front desk. One was my maid, hey she was very cute, I think I got a reputation as the two nights before the people in the next room called to complain about all the noise coming from my room, I think this is what intrigued my maid, so of course I did my best to forward Cuban relations. The rest of the girls I meet at night clubs, I gave all the girls $100 as I wasn't there to bargain away their self respect. These woman take GFE to a new level and in fact I think real feelings developed in some instances. I can't get my mind off a couple of the girls. I don't think there is any reason to worry, but what would happen if you were to knock one of these ladies up?


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Where I'm going, I'm told you can easily get an overnight date for that kind of money if not less. As for paying the fee, it isn't necessary if you book a double size room (or King I hope).

What kind of room did you book?

p.s. There's no way I'm gonna fall in love, but I hope I meet someone that looks like Eva Longoria.

 

[GPIDEAL]

Don, does your guide include picking up the senoritas?

 

[Don Draper]

Don, does your guide include picking up the senoritas?

I don't have a guide when I go to Cuba. I work alone, brother.

 

[ExoticSpirit]

And before you say: "My Spanish isn't good, Don", keep in mind that I know a lot of guys who work the same way as me and speak virtually no Spanish at all.

Perfect example of a girl I met in La Habana recently:

http://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/9631-cuban_girl_music4mix.jpg

I hope I can operate at your level one day Don. Actually for me, if I go the non-pro way, I find that it would be hard for me in a way that if I put in any emotional investment in, it would really suck knowing that there will be no future after the week. It's almost like doing a charade for that week. Hate breaking hearts. At least with a pro, I know that she doesn't really care about me so I won't have to put in any emotional investment on her either.

 

[big dogie]

Don,
My first trip to Cuba and I got a good deal $365 + Taxes for Air + Hotel + Transfer to and from airport, I booked to late so had to fly out of Veradero. Last few nights spent in a casa, my profile was increasing so I wanted to be a little more on the down low. I was Nailing 8's and 9's and I can't complain about anything, perhaps I could have done better, but I had a great week.

GPIDEAL,
Registering guests is a big deal in Cuba, it's not that the room is big enough. One night I had to pay $32 to the front desk and the next night $20 to security, I was on holidays and my only priority was having a good time not saving a few dollars.

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[Don Draper]

At least with a pro, I know that she doesn't really care about me so I won't have to put in any emotional investment on her either.

That's precisely why I stay away from pro's, because other than your wallet, they don't even care what your name is. You might as well just jerk off.

A girl who grabs your arm with both of her hands when walking, who has a great meal with you while you both listen to music, who is hanging onto your every word and runs to you when she sees you waiting for her down the block, that means something to me.

If there isn't the slightest of emotional connections, I want none of it. The sex is genuinely passionate and the time is cherished.

 

[ExoticSpirit]

If there isn't the slightest of emotional connections, I want none of it. The sex is genuinely passionate and the time is cherished.

Wouldn't the emotional connection drain you if you know that anything further as for long term is not likely to happen? It would for me ...

 

[Don Draper]

Wouldn't the emotional connection drain you if you know that anything further as for long term is not likely to happen? It would for me ...

It's no different than meeting a girl in bar and taking her home for the night here in 416 or whatever city you might live in. It's no different than countless encounters since teenage years in Montreal, Osaka, Barcelona, New York, Shanghai or Paris that only last during the time that you're there. Parting promises of: "I'll e-mail you tomorrow" or "I'll see you in a couple of months" that you know will never happen.

It's no different than encounters that you're prepared to enjoy for an unlimited amount of time when suddenly she announces that she's moving on for whatever her reasons are.

These episodes are a fine dance. Most of the time the man leads but sometimes you trip or stumble but you get up and do it again. Maybe with the same partner, maybe a new one. Some you want to keep dancing with all the time, others maybe just once.

Most of them have been passionate and memorable. I wouldn't trade it for the world and most of them have added richly to my emotional content. Very few have drained it. The previous experience always prepares you for the next one. The balance is always in my favor. If you're listening, you'll find music in a woman's beauty wherever you go.

That I can promise you!

 

[ExoticSpirit]

Most of them have been passionate and memorable. I wouldn't trade it for the world and most of them have added richly to my emotional content. Very few have drained it. The previous experience always prepares you for the next one. The balance is always in my favor. If you're listening, you'll find music in a woman's beauty wherever you go.

That I can promise you!

I sort of understand now. Like an international Casanova type of lifestyle. Do any of the women try to prolong the relationship or communicate after you have left their country?

 

[Don Draper]

Like an international Casanova type of lifestyle. Do any of the women try to prolong the relationship or communicate after you have left their country?

Although the moniker of 'Casanova' is a flattering one, in no way whatsoever does it apply to me. It seems to me that the mythology of Giacomo Girolamo Casanova de Seingalt is much more interesting than the actuality of it. Much like Helen of Troy's beauty, (I'm sure she was a very beautiful woman) it's more interesting to refer to her as: 'The Face that Launched a Thousand Ships' rather than simply saying: 'she's really beautiful'.

There are several things I truly love in this life: food, music, poetry, futbol, film, art, travel and women. Whenever a combination of some or all of these is possible, that is wonderful thing. I started travelling in my late teens. At first it was nearby, as in North American cities then progressively into Latin America. There is a gene of Catalan/Castillian within my family so the language comes with few difficulties for me. Eventually, my European roots called me back and my love for Asian femininity drew me to that continent as well.

I find it is very easy to meet women anywhere else other than North America. In particular, Toronto women are some of the coldest, non-approachable women I have very met. There is no viable reason for this, it is simply fact. I now only concentrate my efforts on women whose English is their second language. I have met with great and constant success using this method. When in a foreign city, it is much more pleasurable to be in the company of an attentive woman. I'm sure any man will agree. Any combination of a friend/relative introduction to simply saying 'Hello' in a coffee shop.

A woman's acceptance or rejection of my invitation has no direct consequence on my confidence. I know that I'm more outgoing than the average man and pay great attention to detail. Women love detail. I am not defined by how many women have accepted my advances or how many have declined. I have been in the company of lovely, graceful women more so than most of my friends and colleagues. My attraction for a woman is mine, it doesn't belong to her. I am what I admire, not what admires me. If she chooses not to accept it, that's her business. If she doesn't, as sure as the sun rises tomorrow, another woman will. I have proven that to myself time and time again. The woman that accepts my sincere invitation will have a great memory to treasure, as will I.

Yes, many of the women attempt to keep in touch. Some only for a few weeks, others contact me years later. I got an e-mail from a lovely, young lady in South America a few days ago. I had not spoken to her in over three years. For some reason or other, I was still on her mind. As she always will be in my memory of my only visit to Machu Picchu, along with her.

When I was younger, I was always overly concerned with how a greeting from me would be received by a young lady who wasn't expecting it. As time passed, I have realized that most women don't mind at all and are quite flattered by it. I haven't done badly at all over the years but all the same, I let a few moments escape me that I should have captured. But then again, too few to mention.

La Habana is one of the warmest and most inviting places in the world for open invitations. I can count on one hand the times my invitations were declined. As to how many times they've been accepted...I have actually lost count and wouldn't even venture to guess.

Femininity is a Divine, Graceful Virtue. I so admire it in women of all races and creeds. Asian and Hispanic being MY particular favorites. Treasure this when in the presence of. It will create a life long memory for both parties involved.

 

[desperado]

I sort of understand now. Like an international Casanova type of lifestyle. Do any of the women try to prolong the relationship or communicate after you have left their country?

You will find that many people that you meet in Cuba would like to communicate with you after you leave. I'm not always sure why. I guess contact with the outside world gives them hope.

 

[The Fruity Hare]

You will find that many people that you meet in Cuba would like to communicate with you after you leave. I'm not always sure why. I guess contact with the outside world gives them hope.

Their hope is to have someone to take care of them, whether in Cuba, or to spirit them away to a better life in another country. I met a girl a few years ago, she was in a group of Cubans at a small "holiday camp" near our resort. She was with her boyfriend, so I didn't talk to her more than a casual greeting several times and gave her some chocolates. One of the guys in the group had asked for my address to keep in touch. After 2 years or so, the girl wrote to me, stating that she had broken up with her boyfriend and asked if I was returning to Cuba that summer. I never did get back there.

Most recently I met a "nice" girl. She lives in a small town, doesn't work and spends the days watching the clock, the hours and minutes tick by hoping to leave the island. Most of them have nothing to look forward to in Cuba, so if they maintain contact, they may be hoping to find their ticket out.

I can't say I blame them, however as Don said, they have been lied to all their lives and doing so becomes second nature to them. If you think you know a girl in Cuba, generally you are wrong. They are great actresses and will let you believe what you want. Their future, and sometimes their families, depend on it.

 

[ExoticSpirit]

Their hope is to have someone to take care of them, whether in Cuba, or to spirit them away to a better life in another country. I met a girl a few years ago, she was in a group of Cubans at a small "holiday camp" near our resort. She was with her boyfriend, so I didn't talk to her more than a casual greeting several times and gave her some chocolates. One of the guys in the group had asked for my address to keep in touch. After 2 years or so, the girl wrote to me, stating that she had broken up with her boyfriend and asked if I was returning to Cuba that summer. I never did get back there.

Most recently I met a "nice" girl. She lives in a small town, doesn't work and spends the days watching the clock, the hours and minutes tick by hoping to leave the island. Most of them have nothing to look forward to in Cuba, so if they maintain contact, they may be hoping to find their ticket out.

I can't say I blame them, however as Don said, they have been lied to all their lives and doing so becomes second nature to them. If you think you know a girl in Cuba, generally you are wrong. They are great actresses and will let you believe what you want. Their future, and sometimes their families, depend on it.

I often wonder if they really want to leave the island. Yes, I know that living a better lifestyle elsewhere is important but once they are in a foreign country away from relatives, family and friends, I wonder just how long they can last, unless maybe it's Miami where there's at least a large Cuban American community. But for say up here in freezing Canada, that could be another story ... maybe they will quickly learn that money isn't everything after all when all their loved ones are so far away and the end result will always be us who paid dearly for nothing in the end.

 

[big dogie]

I am the son of immigrants, I don't have the balls that my parents have to leave the comfort of home for a better life and more opportunities in an other land. I'm sure that would be the case for some Cuban's some would seize that chance other would be to timid.

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[ExoticSpirit]

I am the son of immigrants, I don't have the balls that my parents have to leave the comfort of home for a better life and more opportunities in an other land. I'm sure that would be the case for some Cuban's some would seize that chance other would be to timid.

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Or maybe the idea at first might be good but reality might soon set in after several weeks in a foreign land with no friends or family except for the new hubby.