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Just got back from a nine day trip to Cuba. Since I got some good info from this board, I thought that I would contribute my share so at least my observations can hopefully help others.

Flight arrived in Havana and customs went through better than expected (especially after hearing from a fellow passenger about how one can get delayed with them going through your luggage). I was pretty well waved through.

Taxi out of airport was $20 CUC as expected. Local currency was easy enough to get right at airport. Had booked a casa through Cuba Junky website in advance. When I got there, some guy came up to me at the building door and claimed he worked there. He then asked me for $1 for milk for his baby. When I gave him $1 and some change, he then took off. That's when I realized I just got duped. Oh well, a good lesson for me.

The casa owner finally showed up and told me through an interpreter that my reservation was bumped since she found another person who was willing to stay a longer term than me. But fortunately, she didn't leave me hanging as she introduced me to her neighbor down the hall who was willing to rent me a room. This room actually turned out to be an entire apartment for even less than the price of my original reservation. The optional cooked meals were also less too so I was happy.

This new casa owner then confirmed with me that it was okay to bring back a girl but I had to register her. When I asked what if I came back in the middle of the night, she said it was okay to wake her up as the registration of any girl was for the mutual protection of both the casa and me.

I walked all along the Malecon and all the way from Vedado where my casa was, to old Havana and back. Didn't get any local girls approaching me at all. I opted not to visit any nightclub so early in my trip yet since I still wanted to see if it was possible to meet local non-pros on the street or at a cafe. I never did see much action at any of the cafes I went to and the Vista Allegre that I was advised to check out seemed to be under renovations.

After two nights at the casa, I went out of town for a couple of days for diving where there was no chance of any girl action because of this location's remoteness. I won't get into details of this diving place but did make it back into Havana for an event where I got complimentary rooms paid for at the Melia Cohiba hotel.

Again, no action from local non-pro girls at all, at least for me. Only thing was that I got one guy outside the hotel who wanted to set me up with girls but I never felt comfortable with this method. He did say that it wasn't a problem with hotel security if I paid his 'friend' $40.

I later checked independently with one of the doormen afterwards and was confirmed that it was indeed possible to arrange for a girl to get to my hotel room if they arranged it. Didn't discuss a bribe fee though.

On my final evening, I decided to go to Salon Rojo which was suggested by this board for weeknights and this was confirmed by the hotel doorman I talked to as well as a good choice (although the doorman did say he could arrange girls too). I liked the idea of seeing all the choices directly at once at a club so I went to Rojo. Got there for 10 pm on a Wednesday night and it was dead. Paid a $10 cover and the band wasn't to go on until 1 am. But by about 10:30 pm, the girls started to pour in.

To my surprise, the majority of the girls were blondes (fake blondes that is). A few of them approached me and gave me the quotes. Some said that my hotel would be a problem while others said all I had to do was pay the hotel security $50. None wanted to register at the hotel saying that it was too expensive an option for me (at about $100 extra for the hotel). I think they didn't want their names to appear on the hotel registration. Anyway, I did find it strange that some girls were reassuring me about the hotel security bribing option while others claimed that hotels would be impossible for chicas.

All girls offered a casa as an alternative for $30, taxi for $10 and starting price for them at $100. When I told them $100 was too much, pretty well all of them left for other possible customers. But pretty soon, the bar seemed like there were about a 2 to 1 ratio for girls to customers and I didn't see any guys leave with any of the girls.

I spotted one black haired girl I liked so one of my new male bar mates waved her over for me. Her name was something like Yanella or Yanello or something. She quoted the same figures and said the hotel was a problem but offered a casa that was within walking distance to the Cohiba. I told her that I was willing to do this option in broken Spanish if she was willing to take $60 - she didn't speak any English. I told her that we could leave right away. I added that if she doesn't accept $60, I am sorry that we could not do a deal. She agreed to my offer!

She called her taxi since she said that the use of a private car was the only way to avoid police harassment - not sure if this was true or not. I asked her if it was an amigo and she said yes but reassured me that it would be safe. About ten minutes later, it was time to go.

She instructed me to walk outside the club first and move along towards the corner to the Hotel National. We were not to take any of the licensed taxis outside. Moments later, a car pulled up in front of me and the back door opened. My ride had arrived and she was already sitting in front. When I got in, she blabbered something and reached back for my hand to again reassure me that things were okay.

When we got to the casa which was a highrise apartment, I paid her driver friend the agreed $10. An older man unlocked the building main door while a younger man waited in the lobby to take us up. She told me to give the $30 to this younger guy while we were in the elevator.

The casa was a very small apartment that seemed to consist of a hallway, a small narrow kitchen that we had to go through and then to a bedroom. The bathroom was not even there as it was outside on the floor's hallway - since I asked to use it. Got to see real high-rise Cuban living I suppose.

Inside the bedroom, she asked me to start disrobing (I'm guessing all this since she was saying everything in Spanish) while she did too. Once in bra and panties, she wanted the $60 payment. Since I was in her turf, I was okay with this. Then she wanted another $10 for a taxi. I assume it was for her to get back to the Rojo. At this point, I thought what the hell, I'm okay with this just so we can get the transaction going since I already had taken her down from $100 to $60 even though I thought that this was not too cool since it wasn't mentioned before.

After I paid her the extra $10, she started to blow me while I was still standing. After several minutes, this 21 year old motioned me to lie on the bed. She then climbed on and kissed me all over including the lips while she rode me (with a condom on of course).

After some nice moments, I motioned her to switch and lie down so we could do mish position. This position was nice too and I finished with this. She had some nice moaning and kissing throughout so I guess it was sort of GFE. Don't know what the Cuban standard was since this chick would be my only experience during my trip.

After we got dressed, she led me to the elevator. She stayed up on the floor while I was the only one who went into the elevator when it arrived. The older man unlocked the main building door and asked for $1. I was okay with this as I asked for the direction towards my hotel.

All in all, it was a good experience with a hottie. I knew from past reports that the pros at the Salon Rojo would be hard core so I wasn't expecting a type of semi-relationship experience that one would get with a non-pro over a few days. I didn't have the time left on my trip nor the Spanish skills to pull it off. I just wanted to get at least one decent lay with hot looking chick without going through a costly bad experience or having something from my hotel room stolen from me. So things worked out well even though I would have liked 1-2 more encounters with other girls during my trip.

I don't plan to return to Cuba anytime soon as there are other places in the world to visit. Although culturally interesting, I hated the fumes, the heat, the food and the broken sidewalks of Havana. I'm glad that I went and experienced Cuba as well as this one Salon Rojo girl but time to move on. It was a decent experience, maybe even a bit above average as a monger but so far for me, the best single one for me was still in Montreal. Cuba, like most other countries, didn't offer me quite enough to want to go back in the future. Hope this report is useful.
 

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Thanks for the imput as I just started to follow cuz I'm stuck with a month of vacation time and looking to get away and your previous post everyone responding made cuba sound so good for single guys to chill at. But if those prices are cdn I could get that here for a half hour. You paid 60 for the girl but add ons like taxi and all that crap were 40.

Was speaking english hard over there, cuz that's all i know.
 

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Thanks for the imput as I just started to follow cuz I'm stuck with a month of vacation time and looking to get away and your previous post everyone responding made cuba sound so good for single guys to chill at. But if those prices are cdn I could get that here for a half hour. You paid 60 for the girl but add ons like taxi and all that crap were 40.

Was speaking english hard over there, cuz that's all i know.
I would say yes. I certainly wouldn't spend much time down there unless one knew a good command of Spanish. I'm not going back down there anytime soon.
 

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Unfortunately the glory days of Cuba are gone. Back in the 1990s you could simply smile at a girl walking by and you would be set. The pros wanted $20 but other girls just wanted to be taken out for a night on the town.
 

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Unfortunately the glory days of Cuba are gone. Back in the 1990s you could simply smile at a girl walking by and you would be set. The pros wanted $20 but other girls just wanted to be taken out for a night on the town.
And now the police are really cracking down on any local-tourist interactions in public. This makes things much harder.
 

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Back in the 1990s you could simply smile at a girl walking by and you would be set. Girls just wanted to be taken out for a night on the town.
I still find that to be the case. I nice smile and an invitation to a gorgeous babe and I'm set for the night.

Granted, my Spanish is better than average so I know that helps immensely.
 

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I still find that to be the case. I nice smile and an invitation to a gorgeous babe and I'm set for the night.

Granted, my Spanish is better than average so I know that helps immensely.
Yes, this guy I met who married a Cuban down there said he speaks mostly Spanish to his wife. I did meet a few ladies in the tourist areas who were not pros, ie, normal girls, and they spoke decent English. I would need more time to pursue anything with them but then again, don't know if it's worthwhile and that much better in terms of relationships compared to our own domestic North American women.
 

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I would need more time to pursue anything with them but then again, don't know if it's worthwhile and that much better in terms of relationships compared to our own domestic North American women.
There is no comparison with North American women and that of other races and cultures. Once you have experienced a relationship with an European, African, Asian, Middle Eastern or Latin American woman, you'll confirm how cold, uninteresting and unromantic North American women are.
 

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There is no comparison with North American women and that of other races and cultures. Once you have experienced a relationship with an European, African, Asian, Middle Eastern or Latin American woman, you'll confirm how cold, uninteresting and unromantic North American women are.
Don, what are your thoughts on Cuban or other foreign women as potential wives to bring back to Canada?
 

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Don, what are your thoughts on Cuban or other foreign women as potential wives to bring back to Canada?
Don't even bother... They will be here for 2 months and then they will make some excuse like you're mean etc... marriage fraud... I know a few individuals men who married cuban women and cuban women themselves who have partaken. It's not worth the paper work as well, in lawyers fees etc... It s much cheaper if you will fly down many times a year, stay at her place and voila. What will she do once here? She is not qualified for anything for the most part... She will be bored etc... Keep them down there, if one strays you'll find another one, who knows maybe a better one.
 

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Don't even bother... They will be here for 2 months and then they will make some excuse like you're mean etc... marriage fraud... I know a few individuals men who married cuban women and cuban women themselves who have partaken. It's not worth the paper work as well, in lawyers fees etc... It s much cheaper if you will fly down many times a year, stay at her place and voila. What will she do once here? She is not qualified for anything for the most part... She will be bored etc... Keep them down there, if one strays you'll find another one, who knows maybe a better one.
Would this imply that if one is looking for a serious relationship after monger days are over, then we are stuck with our local Canadian women (assuming that the Cubans and other foreign women are no better)? If this is the case, then this really sucks.
 

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Would this imply that if one is looking for a serious relationship after monger days are over, then we are stuck with our local Canadian women (assuming that the Cubans and other foreign women are no better)? If this is the case, then this really sucks.
Firstly, one must consider and weigh the fact that Cuba (along with its women) is a completely isolated entity outside of Latin America. In fact, they're not even accustomed to using the term "Latino" since their internal propaganda has always skewed them to think that Cuba is the 'Be-All-End-All' and there is no need for anything else. Castro's revolution has put the island in such a dire situation for half a century that all he could do was spin control in order to keep his population in check. According to his administration, the less a Cuban citizen knows about the outside world, the less questions the citizen will ask. Ignorance is Cuban bliss as far as Castro is concerned. A communist regime puts absolutely no emphasis on religion. Now, like it or not, religion is the foundation for core values of ethics and morals in most societies. Hopefully, once a person reaches adulthood, you can distinguish between 'Mythology' and 'Clarity'. This is a whole other topic of conversation but it has a part in our discussion. Cubans, for the most part, have lived a hard, uncompromising, difficult life for 50 years now. They are so used to being fucked over, lied to and deceived that now that's simply just how life works. We are spoiled here in North America where lines of morality are drawn with hard, clear lines. Not so in Latin America and much less so in Cuba.

One of many examples: A friend of mine met a girl in Cuba and lightning struck. They fell in love and he kept sending her $ monthly and traveled 3 or 4 times a year to visit her, each time bringing gifts and $ for her and her family. During this time span of about two years, he proposed marriage and started the legal paperwork necessary. Another 18 months and $2,000.00 later she was married to a Canadian and lived here in Toronto. Castro will sell any of his citizens if you pony up the cash, amigo. She left him after around 3 months and took up with a group of Cuban friends. She didn't leave my friend for another man, she just wanted her liberty. When my friend tracked her down and demanded she recognize his efforts and come home as his wife, she replied: "You're the lucky one. You got to fuck a 23 year old babe whenever you wanted. You were catered and looked after all that time. You had a good period of time with me. Most guys don't get to fuck women like me so what are you complaining about? What makes you so special? You had a very good ride, enjoy the memory, stop complaining and get on with your life. I am.".

My friend will never get married again. Worse than that, his trust in women, all women, is now completely gone. I did warn him but he didn't want to listen. Immediate, hot passion got the best of him.

The other side of the proverbial coin has other friends and relatives of mine hooking up with women in Mexico, El Salvador, Panama, Colombia and Peru. All these matches are now in the 10 year range and successful. The only conflict being that some of my friends are not catholic and therefore put up with the creepy, antiquated process of this cult once a week. The trade off is a feminine, doting, sexy wife who cooks great and is an exemplary mother. Is the trade worth it? My friends say yes. I'll go to my grave a single man but I'm overjoyed for my friends and cousins. I love being the 'Cool Uncle' the children run to and having the wife always trying to set me up with her friends.

Latin America is a Patriarchal, Macho dominated world where femininity is rewarded and many Old-World values still survive. Even a progressive thinking, modern woman won't let 'her man' leave the house with a wrinkled shirt or hungry. A boyfriend/husband/spouse gets the same attention from a woman that she gives her Daddy. I've experienced many of these relationships and have no complaints. I've abandoned them due to my own vile, selfish reasons. It was never the girl's fault, let me assure you.

Now, I'm European born/North-American raised. The 416 is a mecca of lovely, enticing and intriguing women from all over God's Green Earth. With the passing of time and sampling of cultures, it saddens me to say that North American women are the coldest and most calculating creatures I've ever had the experience to be involved with. It seems North American women have sadly confused the term 'Femininity' with 'Submission'. They fail to see how much admiration they're missing out on. I find that the connection with these two countries being so young is a direct tie-in to no sense of history or culture. The women from the other corners of this world are by far more interesting, romantic, sexy and attentive. In particular, I have learned that the match with me and Asian women is heaven sent. Perhaps it's the height (I'm very tall), perhaps it the European romantic nature I inherited (you can be over-the-top romantic with Asian women and they only want more. Asian men are a romantic disgrace), perhaps it is my 'Lust for Life' that entices them. No matter, the combination works and I will continue to savor it for all it's worth. My present S.O. is always the best looking woman in whatever room we're in. I praise her Asian beauty and femininity every chance I get.

I hope this discourse has provided some sort of insight into the topics inquired. In the end, if you meet a woman that 'Thrills Your Soul', you owe it to yourself to explore the opportunity.

The most valuable thing in life is the Time we have. The worst thing to have in life are Regrets.

Stay Cool Forever!

Don Draper
 
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My friend will never get married again. Worse than that, his trust in women, all women, is now completely gone. I did warn him but he didn't want to listen. Immediate, hot passion got the best of him.
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I really feel for your friend. I think no matter if it was a domestic or foreign woman, I would have an iron clad prenup. I think one of the benefits of hearing such stories is that if we are smart, we should not let passion cloud our judgement into doing anything hasty.

Well, I still would like to visit Rio ...
 

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I have said it too....Have the ladies come for a visit....In fact pay for them to go home onc or twice a year.....DO not let them live with you more than one year!!! No commonlaw...no marriage.....until you know she LOVEs you!!!
 

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I have said it too....Have the ladies come for a visit....In fact pay for them to go home onc or twice a year.....DO not let them live with you more than one year!!! No commonlaw...no marriage.....until you know she LOVEs you!!!
Is this even possible in terms of travel regulations, particularly for citizens of Cuba?
 

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Is this even possible in terms of travel regulations, particularly for citizens of Cuba?
Yes it is possible. They will have to apply for and be granted a Temporary Resident Visa, which may be denied for many reasons. They will have to get a passport, go through medical and police checks, provide proof that there are sufficient ties back in Cuba that they will be compelled to return, etc. All of which they won't be able to afford so you will be paying. You will have to issue a formal invitation and likely be interviewed by immigration. There are sources on the internet where you can read the details of the process.
 

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Yes it is possible. They will have to apply for and be granted a Temporary Resident Visa, which may be denied for many reasons. They will have to get a passport, go through medical and police checks, provide proof that there are sufficient ties back in Cuba that they will be compelled to return, etc. All of which they won't be able to afford so you will be paying. You will have to issue a formal invitation and likely be interviewed by immigration. There are sources on the internet where you can read the details of the process.
Kudos to revolver for being aware and knowledgeable of how a foreign travel systems functions. People outside the North American box are more up to speed on what they need to know to live their lives.

It always disconcerts me to see how North Americans are so unaware of how things work outside their little box, never realizing how lucky and spoiled they are to be able to travel anywhere they want.
 

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I will be going to a 4 star resort in Miramar Cuba next month with experienced dudes. We will each have our own room. Apparently, the local gals are allowed to our hotel without extra fee (unless you share a room with someone already or have a single). I'm told the honorarium for a gal a day is $50 to $80, maybe $100 tops. I won't disclose where I'm going for now. I would never bring a gal back, but my friend is thinking of retiring down there years from now. For now, I'm a bit leery but thankful that I'm going with these guys who've been down there at least half a dozen times, know drivers, and the clubs where there are ample, young and 'solid' babes.

I still have faith in the lovelies from Toronto though. I may like traditions, but I'm not an old-fashioned guy.
 

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Kudos to revolver for being aware and knowledgeable of how a foreign travel systems functions. People outside the North American box are more up to speed on what they need to know to live their lives.

It always disconcerts me to see how North Americans are so unaware of how things work outside their little box, never realizing how lucky and spoiled they are to be able to travel anywhere they want.
I agree. I've only researched on travel for myself to places outside NA but never had the slightest interest on immigration policies (since I don't have any foreign relatives I am interested in bringing here - unlike some of my friends here who do). But now with this option, it opens up a whole new area I haven't explored before.
 
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