Ladder Theory - How to interact with woman

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If you are getting your fill of sex and companionship and satisfaction from a woman above butt ugly, why do you care about the ladder theory? I'd much rather fuck a 5 or 6 who matches my sexual wants, than a 10 who will only fuck missionary, only once a week and thinks her shit doesn't stink. Mind you, if I can boink a 10 who has the same sexual profile as me, I'm all for that...lol
 

james t kirk

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This is the best explanation of how women and men place each other on a 'ladder' type scale and how it affects every interaction you have with the woman.

The main message to take away from this is that you should never be friends with a woman. You should try to have sex with her or if refused, walk away from any relationship with her.

You should really try reading this - it has alot of truth to it.

Every time I have treated a woman very well, I have been treated poorly. Every time I have treated a woman poorly or made it a point to tell her I would not accept friendship with her - it was to involve sex or nothing at all - I have been treated very well.

http://www.laddertheory.com/
This link requires too much reading....
 

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Frank Sinatra summed it up better and more succinctly: "Treat a tramp like a lady and a lady like a tramp" That bit of advice will get you through life successfully with women.
 

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And Casanova said "...you tell a beautiful woman she's intelligent and an intelligent woman she's beautiful."

The link is childish but has a lot of truth to it, like it or not. No it is not universal of course, but it is more universal than we think. I disagree with GG though (although I appreciate his thoughtful analysis). I think the theory applies even to ugly people and normal people. Remember, most people know what circle they move in. An ugly guy may wank to the local hottie, but he is making a play for a woman who's actually in his league. So, the circle of women he moves around in may not be supermodels, but they are, in his mind, rankable. His top rung may be your middle rung, etc. Same for the normal looking women. A fat girl who works at 7-11 doesn't put the lawyer who recently made partner, at the top of her ladder. She puts the shift supervisor at the steel mill at the top of her ladder (he has a pension plan and medical benefits and drives a Camaro and bosses people around, swoon). And everything flows from there.

Childish stuff, some may think, but its human nature. Although the level of discussion here may appear sophomoric, people get their doctorates for studying and writing about this shit.
 

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Yet you are a fine example of the moral man posting on a prostitute review board ....BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA
i also haven't had sex in close to 5 years and i do nothing with the reviews other then read the bad ones cuz they are funny. i limit myself to the lounge because at times there are interesting and intriguing conversations. i am probably one of the few here that respect women above all else.
 

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If you are getting your fill of sex and companionship and satisfaction from a woman above butt ugly, why do you care about the ladder theory? I'd much rather fuck a 5 or 6 who matches my sexual wants, than a 10 who will only fuck missionary, only once a week and thinks her shit doesn't stink.
I cannot have sex with a 5 or 6. I think many, if not most men can, but I'm not one of them. I've gotten decent skull and handjobs from 6's and I've regretted it. There is no way that I could marry or have any type of ongoing sexual relationship with a 6.
 

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simone482, you mean no sex period??? or civilian sex. I have not had civilian sex in 9 years ( too short) . Thus doing something to correct THAT situation. At 5'4.5" , fed up with being 95% of the time the shortest guy in any dating meet-up group & thus seen as the token midget showing up!
 

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simone482, you mean no sex period??? or civilian sex. I have not had civilian sex in 9 years ( too short) . Thus doing something to correct THAT situation. At 5'4.5" , fed up with being 95% of the time the shortest guy in any dating meet-up group & thus seen as the token midget showing up!
Warning Warning! It's 4:30am in Germany. Hmmm! Wanker alert!

 

CapitalGuy

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Warning Warning! It's 4:30am in Germany. Hmmm! Wanker alert!
Oh stop it. He just had a major invasive surgery. His body does not need any sleep to recover from this. He's surely coming back from a night of wheelchair dancing at a techno club where Kraftwerk3D was headlining, followed by a couple hours at an FKK club where his newfound tallness got him a 20% discount with an 18 year old Moldovan hottie, and decided to check TERB before heading out on a day trip to the Mosel wine country. Sleep shmeep. Its surgery, baby - it increases your energy levels.
 

blackrock13

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Oh stop it. He just had a major invasive surgery. His body does not need any sleep to recover from this. He's surely coming back from a night of wheelchair dancing at a techno club where Kraftwerk3D was headlining, followed by a couple hours at an FKK club where his newfound tallness got him a 20% discount with an 18 year old Moldovan hottie, and decided to check TERB before heading out on a day trip to the Mosel wine country. Sleep shmeep. Its surgery, baby - it increases your energy levels.
My bad.
 

pua

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This is frikking common sense! Inventing a name like ladder theory is pure KJ = keyboard jockey. I agree with it, but I don't even bother reading it it's waste of time. Think about it, a woman want lots of men desiring her, but dont want to be fucked by all of them - then she becomes a whore and lowered her value. she only wants to be fucked by one, at least one at a time, and the rest of her worshipers trying to impress her and serving her. it's friggin common sense guys! If you become her worshiper you will have ZERO chance getting in her pants, no matter how good looking or how much money you have because she has "conquored" you so to speak, no need to fuck you. End of story. the only way to get in her pants is by being decisive like a man! fuck or nothing.

Having said that though... I have some female friends who I dont mind fucking, but given the circumstances they are more useful being platonic friends than lovers. But does not mean I do favours for them just trying to get in her pants, but it's more like mutually beneficial friendship.
 

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AND be at least 5'8". I have communicated to many p.u.a. that say for guys under 5'8" it is near impossible to provide any attraction value to women unless fabulously rich and/or famous.
Really? which PUA did you talk to? Of course height and looks will make the game easier, but that is not all. I thought majority of PUA's put focus on the techniques and language patterns rather than looks. Some even go extreme as dressed like a hobo and still manage to pick up women in public. I don't go that far, but I sure had successes when I looked like a mess. I think it is more about the energy you exudes than how you dress or look. But then there are always women who only judge you by the looks. But in my experience they are minority, and usually they also wear tons of makeups.
As for being rich helps game, it is also true, but in my experience, extreme minority of beautiful women are actually gold diggers. I've met beautiful female doctor whose husband is a construction worker, and gorgeous waitress who would not go for rich guys giving her big tips, and rather date a penniless art student.
 

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Really? which PUA did you talk to? Of course height and looks will make the game easier, but that is not all. I thought majority of PUA's put focus on the techniques and language patterns rather than looks. Some even go extreme as dressed like a hobo and still manage to pick up women in public. I don't go that far, but I sure had successes when I looked like a mess. I think it is more about the energy you exudes than how you dress or look. But then there are always women who only judge you by the looks. But in my experience they are minority, and usually they also wear tons of makeups.
As for being rich helps game, it is also true, but in my experience, extreme minority of beautiful women are actually gold diggers. I've met beautiful female doctor whose husband is a construction worker, and gorgeous waitress who would not go for rich guys giving her big tips, and rather date a penniless art student.
You are new here. Read Master cute-bald's collected works and you will soon enough realize that all that is required to pick up women, is to be taller than 5'8.
 

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I cannot have sex with a 5 or 6. I think many, if not most men can, but I'm not one of them. I've gotten decent skull and handjobs from 6's and I've regretted it. There is no way that I could marry or have any type of ongoing sexual relationship with a 6.
Ditto
If I could get it up with a six I'd be a male whore
 

afterhours

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This is frikking common sense! Inventing a name like ladder theory is pure KJ = keyboard jockey. I agree with it, but I don't even bother reading it it's waste of time. Think about it, a woman want lots of men desiring her, but dont want to be fucked by all of them - then she becomes a whore and lowered her value. she only wants to be fucked by one, at least one at a time, and the rest of her worshipers trying to impress her and serving her. it's friggin common sense guys! If you become her worshiper you will have ZERO chance getting in her pants, no matter how good looking or how much money you have because she has "conquored" you so to speak, no need to fuck you. End of story. the only way to get in her pants is by being decisive like a man! fuck or nothing.

Having said that though... I have some female friends who I dont mind fucking, but given the circumstances they are more useful being platonic friends than lovers. But does not mean I do favours for them just trying to get in her pants, but it's more like mutually beneficial friendship.
So basically we agree that a man cannot be a friend with a woman he finds attractive
A man either wants to fuck her or wants to use her ( which is not friendship) or finds her ugly
 

pua

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So basically we agree that a man cannot be a friend with a woman he finds attractive
A man either wants to fuck her or wants to use her ( which is not friendship) or finds her ugly
hmm... you are right. friendship is not same as someone you want to use... hmmm, this is getting deep...
 

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i also haven't had sex in close to 5 years and i do nothing with the reviews other then read the bad ones cuz they are funny. i limit myself to the lounge because at times there are interesting and intriguing conversations. i am probably one of the few here that respect women above all else.
So you consider not having sex with women as a sign of respect? WTF... that is one messed up set of values. You need to get past the whole "sex is dirty" thing...
 

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simone482, you mean no sex period??? or civilian sex. I have not had civilian sex in 9 years ( too short) . Thus doing something to correct THAT situation. At 5'4.5" , fed up with being 95% of the time the shortest guy in any dating meet-up group & thus seen as the token midget showing up!
nothing at all.
 

simon482

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So you consider not having sex with women as a sign of respect? WTF... that is one messed up set of values. You need to get past the whole "sex is dirty" thing...
no i don't think that at all. i haven't had sex because i am not an attractive guy lol. i had to go for massage therapy to a regitered massage therapist and the one time i had a woman do the massage she walked in saw me laying on the table and said "fuck not again" under her breath. your assumptions are sad and you should really stop trying to figure anyone out. in fact the sex that i used to have is quite weird.
 

nottyboi

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no i don't think that at all. i haven't had sex because i am not an attractive guy lol. i had to go for massage therapy to a regitered massage therapist and the one time i had a woman do the massage she walked in saw me laying on the table and said "fuck not again" under her breath. your assumptions are sad and you should really stop trying to figure anyone out. in fact the sex that i used to have is quite weird.
I think your assumptions are pretty sad. Why would disparage peoples ideas of sexual relationships when you are pretty screwed up from your own admission?
 
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