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Could you go through life with only 15 things?

blueman

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http://www.scottberkun.com/blog/2010/the-man-owns-15-things/

Well known start-up founder and conference organizer Andrew Hyde (@andrewhyde) recently decided to sell most of his worldly possessions. He currently owns only 15 things. Look around your office or home, I’m sure you can see more than that number of owned items around you right now. I bet some of you have nearly 15 items on you, between clothing and what’s in your pockets.

I interviewed Andrew about his motivations and experiences as an American with so few things.
SB: Given our hi-tech, gadget obsessed, culture, minimalism is not the typical lifestyle a young American would be expected to pursue. How did you get interested in minimalism and what motivated you to make this change now?

AH: I dabbled over the last few years by taking a small backpack on 3 or 4 day trips. I was shocked in how much stuff I had. Even when I had packed my apartment, I was still shopping for more. It wasn’t about need anymore, it was just habit. Realizing that changed the way I looked at buying stuff. I just stopped.

I remember reading a post by Fred Wilson with the message of “when was the last time you didn’t spend any money in a day?” That made me think. I experimented from those thoughts. I left my wallet at home to see how I would ‘get by.’ Turns out, everything I spent cash on was pure comfort goods, and I could a week without spending cash besides groceries. My regular coffeeshop was more than understanding if I forgot my wallet, so were my coworkers and friends. It created a non confrontational way for me to really start aggressively saving.

This whole experience has taught me something very simple: debt kills dreams. Debt is cash, things and fear.
In one my favorite films, Fight Club, Tyler Durden says “the things you own end up owning you” which is likely a riff inspired by Buddhist or stoic philosophy. What do you think of this phrase? And given your current lifestyle, can you think of a different quote you’d offer in response?

The book is also fantastic, a must read for me. Although I love it, I have still never been in a fight. I love the message of the movie- relationships, not stuff, matter, and message runs community.

I don’t have much right now. 3 shirts, a pair of pants and shorts. Some odds and ends. I do some pretty interesting and amazing things everyday, and not once in the last month did I really want anything more.

It has turned by life from stuff centric to relationship centric.
To get down to 15 items must have taken serious thought. Can you describe the process you used? Did you do it all at once, or one or two items at a time?
The 15 items was a simple goal. I was trying to tell my friends that my life would fit into a backpack. It wasn’t until I turned my life into a number before the trip was official. I started with my clothing basics. 2 shirts, 1 pant, 1 short, 1 sandals, 1 sunglasses and underwear. I added a few ‘must haves’ for me like an iPad and camera. I added a backpack, toiletries kit, towel, and a few random things (pen, connector cable, chargers) and tried it out. After five weeks of the trip, there is more that I have not used in the bag than there is in the bag.

Given how few items you possess, has it changed how you look at your friends, family or other people you meet on your travels?
The weirdest thing is I don’t have a home to go back to (homeless, you could say). I see a guy who owns a bag like me and spends his days begging or with nothing to do. I choose to have a bag and travel around while there are many I have talked to that do not choose to live on the streets. The guy is surviving, and it is really sad to think we are both equal except I have more in relationships and bank accounts. That is hard to see.

It is pretty funny to see peoples faces when I show them by bag and tell them it is everything I own. People either get happy or confused. The happy ones challenge themselves to think if they could do it (with wonder) and the confused tend to tell me that I shouldn’t travel to ‘dangerous’ countries like Colombia.

One of my favorite interactions was at JFK. I talk to a lot more people now that I don’t have a job, it is just interesting to see what people are up to, where they are going, what they are living for. A middle aged guy said I was elitist for traveling. I was standing there with everything I owned on my shoulders, being called elitist.
 

red

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well thats easy if you don't have a job or kids.
 

afterhours

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Sure , 15 1 million dollar cheques is all I need :)
In fact I think I can beat this guy, I would only need a tropical island with a house and an airstrip, and a telephone
 

69Shooter

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Not something I'd want to do by choice but, if circumstances dictated I think I could. Of course, he had the "luxury" of picking the 15 items that he wanted!
 

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With so much time out and talking to a lot of strangers means he could be picking up a lot of chicks if he has game. I am not that extreme, but I'd rather choose to own a small flat and some basic life's necessity, and have time to pickup girls than working my ass off to own a huge masion like house and some fancy car, then have no time to pickup girls.
 

69Shooter

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With so much time out and talking to a lot of strangers means he could be picking up a lot of chicks if he has game. I am not that extreme, but I'd rather choose to own a small flat and some basic life's necessity, and have time to pickup girls than working my ass off to own a huge masion like house and some fancy car, then have no time to pickup girls.
Believe it or not, not everyone in the world is out looking to pick up as many chicks as possible!
 

mandrill

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I suppose one could, my question is why the *&^&%! does Mr. Hyde want to?
To write the stupid article, in order to get some publicity, in order to push his other services onto the public. Ho hum. 7 minutes down, 8 to go.
 

blueman

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http://andrewhy.de/

I would guess that this guy has quite a few bucks safely tucked away in a few accounts.

Regarding the thermos, it is simply not one of the 15 things.
 

Cobster

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Yes I could, very easily.
I'm done with catching up with the Jones' and placing any value on superficial shit.
 

SloCumHeat

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I left my wallet at home to see how I would ‘get by.’ Turns out, everything I spent cash on was pure comfort goods, and I could a week without spending cash besides groceries. My regular coffeeshop was more than understanding if I forgot my wallet, so were my coworkers and friends. It created a non confrontational way for me to really start aggressively saving.
As a "back-packer", with just 15 things in my pack, I could BUY that day's "groceries", which would amount to $5 to $10/day (food isn't that cheap).

If he's suggesting that the coffee shop, his co-workers, and friends were understanding that he had no money, and for them giving out freebies, then he might as well be "pan-handling".
 

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Wow, look at me and my 15 things. I'm ubercool and you're not because you have way more than 15 things and are personally eating up all the planet's resources. When I feel the need to be materialistic I just change into my other t-shirt. See I have two of them. Having only two t-shirts is ubercool. Hey, where are you going? Work? I don't work because working feeds the machine that is eating up the planet. I just sit on my friend's couch all day which I also use as a bed and post my deepest philosophical thoughts on my ubercool blog using my ipad, as long as I can also mooch off his wireless internet. Sometimes I will go down to Starbucks. I go to the counter and say that I only have 15 things and they are all like, "Wow dude, you are ubercool to only have 15 things" and then they give me a free non-fat latte because they secretly hate working for a phony we-care-about-the-planet-but-really-don't-because-we-take-up-so-much-space-with-our-infinite-locations-and-non-biodegradable-coffee-cup-lids sort of coffee shop. Then I sit in Starbucks mooching off their free internet drinking my free non-fat latte posting deep thoughts to my ubercool blog with my ipad feeling very superior to you all who have WAY more than 15 things. Next year I am going to rock your world by making another bold protest against materialism by giving up my other t-shirt. This is such a good latte. Do you know if they give free refills?
 

SloCumHeat

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. . . Sometimes I will go down to Starbucks. I go to the counter and say that I only have 15 things and they are all like, "Wow dude, you are ubercool to only have 15 things" and then they give me a free non-fat latte because they secretly hate working for a phony we-care-about-the-planet-but-really-don't-because-we-take-up-so-much-space-with-our-infinite-locations-and-non-biodegradable-coffee-cup-lids sort of coffee shop. Then I sit in Starbucks mooching off their free internet drinking my free non-fat latte posting deep thoughts to my ubercool blog with my ipad . . .
LOL, that's quite funny Thunderballs.

I admit that I have not read about Andrew Hyde or how he is accomplishing this.

Is he basically lazy, a free-loader, moocher, pan-handler? Or is he really trying to live off very little, say $10 / day.

Back in the day, this is akin to living off welfare. About $300+ for room, remaining 250/month to live day-to-day.
 

Asterix

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I'm still confused at the fact the he owns two shirts, but only one pair of underwear.
That and socks. I remember reading an article about what I guess you could call a professional homeless guy and he said one of the most important things you need are at least two pair of socks. He held down a fairly decent job while living on the streets, and said if you don't have them you'll start to stink real quick.
 

Anynym

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A house is more than 15 things right there. Let's say it has a door, with two hinges, (consisting of two hinge pins and four hinge plates), a door handle (which consists of several parts), a door frame, windows and window frames, floors, walls, nails, screws, drywall, cement, etc, etc.

Or would you choose to go without any hinges so you could get your count down?
 
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