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Sad Story todays Sun - Jamie Lynn

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I read the story in today's Sun about Jamie Lynn - an Oshawa SP who couldn't get out from under a handful of pimps over the years. About how she was repeatedly raped and abused by these men and how she is damaged now and seeking help - help that is not there -

She mentions the Asian Sex slaves that are force to work 24-7 and I can't even imagine the horror of their lives.

She talks about some incalls that she worked for where the girls were abused by the owner of the incall

The whole story is horrific. As most of you know I retired from the hobby a while ago but it is time we all look at what is going on around us. These girls are people - someones daughter, girlfriend, sister or wife. We need to be aware when they are not providing service because they want to be doing that and when they are not the only one benefiting from their oh so hard work.

At one time Metro police had Wendy Dennis who helped our girls that needed and wanted help - who is there now to help them?

Enjoy hobbying, but do it with a conscience and if there is a cry for help - don't let it fall on deaf ears.

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Brill

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Fuck that, I'm not going to feel bad about seeing escorts because some of them are abused by agency owners or clients.
 

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Link to article: http://www.torontosun.com/news/torontoandgta/2010/07/18/14750871.html


Fighting to escape the sex trade


By TAMARA CHERRY, Toronto Sun

She has been raped, beaten, robbed, tied up, manipulated, bought and sold.

A pimp told her that the world is a dark, cold place, only to find out that for her, it really is.

And now that this former escort wants out of the game that left her broken and lost, like so many others, she is realizing there are few places to turn — and, it seems, no one to trust.

“It’s not that you’re addicted to the job. You’re addicted to the money you were making. To go from making a minimum of $2,000 a week to making whatever welfare gives you is hard,” 21-year-old Jamie-Lynn (not her real name) says at the Oshawa apartment where she has been confined by fear since a life-changing encounter in May. “It’s just f---in’ hard, especially when something bad happens to you and you feel like you’re dead alone because of what you used to do, that everyone’s discriminating against you.

“There just needs to be more help.”

It was a call that vice cops across the Greater Toronto Area wait and hope for. But when Jamie-Lynn finally called York Regional Police Det.-Const. Stephen Yan to say she wanted out of the game, he had nowhere to send her.

There was no number to call for immediate services specifically geared toward those seeking help out of the sex trade. No one to understand the way the game chewed her up and spit her out. No one to get her into school, a straight job, something that can help pay her rent so she doesn’t have to move.

“If she stays up all night and sleeps through the day, you need someone who stays up all night and sleeps during the day,” says Det. Thai Truong, who heads up Yan’s team. “Someone just to guide them, almost like a parent they never had. It’s the simple things.

“You’ve got to get them back to where they were before all this,” Truong says. “They need a big brother or big sister. They need somebody for every little thing.”

It has been nearly 12 years since Jamie-Lynn moved to Canada from Australia with her mother and brother and nearly 12 years since she was first raped — by a man who lived in her north Oshawa apartment building, a man she considered a friend, she recalls.

Her second rape came a couple years later, but she can’t talk about that one.

And her third, well, we’ll get to that.

“I’ve been cutting my wrists for years,” she says. “Physical pain’s easier to deal with than emotional pain.”

Two years ago, the waitress at former Pickering strip club Palace East noticed how much money the dancers were making and, with her gymnastics background, decided she would give it a try. It wasn’t long before a pimp at the club convinced her to work for him out of Markham hotels.

He took all of her money, but paid her car bills, bought her clothes and gave her money when she needed it.

“The world is a dark, cold place and without us (him and the other women working for him), you won’t survive,” she recalls him saying.

As it goes with this game, Jamie-Lynn couldn’t leave her pimp without forking over a leaving fee.

He wanted to sell her to another pimp for $10,000, but when that pimp refused to pay that much, he granted Jamie-Lynn her freedom for $3,000.

It wasn’t long before she found another pimp — a man working out of a condominium-based escort agency who took 40% of her earnings. That working relationship ended when Jamie-Lynn saw him hit one of the other escorts, she says.

She was working for her third pimp — who took 50% of the cut — at Toronto’s Westin Prince hotel when two men robbed her at gunpoint in November 2009. She figures now that they were after her pimp because he was shot while driving in Markham the following month.

“Then I was independent (without a pimp) and boom, got raped. Woo-hoo.”

There is no shortage of sarcasm as Jamie-Lynn tries to take the edge off the six or so hours of horror she endured May 20. Like when the john raped her without a condom: “That was just f---in’ wonderful.”

She had been booked by a client in Guelph for six hours. As she walked up the steps to the split-level home, boom.

“I was knocked out for three hours, woke up tied to a bed, butt naked. He raped me twice that I know of but I don’t know how many times he raped me when I was knocked out. Yeah, good times.”

She was beaten, and thrown into the attic where her hands and wrists were scraped and burned as she wiggled free from the binding ropes, she says.

Not knowing how to lower the ladder, Jamie-Lynn jumped out of the attic, ran to a bedroom and called 911.

She was found by her attacker, beaten some more, had packing tape sealed over her mouth and was thrown down the stairs into the basement, she says.

She knew the police knocks when she heard them. Seconds later, she and her fractured skull were in the arms of an officer and her alleged attacker was in police bracelets.

As of last Friday, her 33-year-old alleged assailant remained in custody on charges of aggravated assault, sexual assault, forcible confinement and — after further investigation — possession of child pornography, according to Guelph Police.

When Jamie-Lynn tried to return to the business, she found herself sobbing in a hotel room and afraid for her life.

“I knew that me staying in the industry was just going to get worse and I was going to end up dead. I had to get out,” she says.

And so she called Det.-Const. Stephen Yan, the officer she had come to trust after someone threatened her life earlier this year. Jamie-Lynn had grown accustomed to texting Yan whenever she went to meet clients so he would know she was safe. The officer knew maintaining these lifelines could be the key to getting her out of the game.

Yan introduced Jamie-Lynn to Lynn Cysouw, peer coordinator with the Prostitution Awareness and Action Foundation of Edmonton, in June when Cysouw was in Newmarket for the preliminary hearing of a man accused of forcing a young Edmonton woman into prostitution.

Cysouw’s organization, which provides the around-the-clock services for sex workers that experts say is lacking in Ontario, is nearing the end of a three-year federal grant provided through Status of Women.

Yan and Cysouw were aware of Streetlight Support Services in Toronto, an agency whose website says is meant to “help anyone who wants to exit” the sex trade.

Jamie-Lynn made no secret of the fact that she wanted out. Over the last month, she called the agency and left at least two voicemail messages. She even mentioned the rape. But nobody returned her calls.

When she finally heard from them — after Cysouw called them on her behalf — Jamie-Lynn was told that the Bloor and Bathurst Sts. agency had been closed for two weeks for the G20 summit, she says.

Executive director Inas Garwood did not return the Toronto Sun’s calls.

The attack in Guelph felt like a dream Jamie-Lynn couldn’t wake up from, she says. “And every night now, I have the exact same dream of exactly what happened and it ends with me waking up after seeing different ways that he kills me every night.”

It is this torment that has twice driven her to attempt suicide over the last month, she says.

“It’s very sad. I feel for (Jamie-Lynn) and her situation,” says Cysouw, who has been supporting her over the phone from Edmonton. “There’s a lot of judgment and shame that comes with that lifestyle and when you’re exiting, it’s hard to find people who will understand it and not label you.”

Cysouw says she left Ontario last month saddened by how “untouched” this province is when it comes to helping women like Jamie-Lynn.

Toronto-based SexTrade101.com trauma counsellor and director Natasha Falle runs a peer support groups and mentoring program for sex workers and those trying to leave the trade.

“There’s all these organizations that help empower people to be a prostitute and refer to this as a liberating job choice, but there’s very few services to help people get out,” Falle says. “You get turned away or people don’t take you seriously or care, you assume that that’s what all the people are, because that’s what you’ve been brainwashed into in the (sex) business anyway, that these people don’t care, that you’re all alone to take care of your problems.”

That’s certainly how Jamie-Lynn feels. And she knows she’s not the only one.

When she was working as a prostitute posting ads on websites like Craigslist, she got calls from several young women looking for help. With no where else to turn, these women would call the number she posted because their pimps restricted their access to the

Internet, allowing them to only go online to post ads.

“There are so many girls who are in worse situations than me,” Jamie-Lynn says. “Like all the Chinese girls (that called me) are forced to work 24-7 — 24-7.”

She gave Yan’s number to some of the women and drove out to others to take them to a safe place herself, she says.

Jamie-Lynn has weekly appointments with Durham Family Services and a rape crisis counsellor, but says she needs someone like Cysouw who can relate to where she’s been and support her as she moves forward — someone who can help her change her name, get into school, enroll in boxing classes, volunteer at an animal shelter, find a straight job.
 

SecretRendezvous

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I do feel for the girl and all that are in her situation, but I have to say, being out in Oshawa, she was not pimped by any agencies owners I know of in the last 10 years. If you can search CL, like she did, then she could go to reputable places. TERB itself has been around for more then 10 years.

I am not saying in anyway what has happen to her is her fault or there should be no way out for these girls, but I do question the how much truth and investigation went into this article and how much sensationalism was put in there as well.

While I agree the hidden and underlying theme to this is that places need to be set up to help these girls out of the business if they want out. But these girls have to realize that it is not going to be easy. Just because they were working girls does not mean they should get more from welly to help them out.

An example of a proper exit plan is Harlie. She was with me for a year and we have been planning together her exit plan. To make sure she had enough to adjust to new living, for her to get into school and get the loans needed to cover, to make sure she had enough for rent and bills until her new civie job kicked in and gave her enough to now live off of.

That is just one example. It can be done, but not as easy as most girls would like. At some point all girls in this business will need to take accountability and responsibility for themselves and get out. More help would be nice. Services for counseling etc, but to just say it is hard to go from 2K a week to welfare...... that is a pill I just can't personally swallow.
 

larry

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How is this any different from changing jobs? I mean, leaving aside any forced aspects? When I read the story and saw that her only alternative was welfare, it burned me up. she could just save some money, get a job at timmies, heck, get two jobs. welfare!!!!
 

Dewalt

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yeah the industry sucks for some people who dont' make informed decisions to enter it. sure her pimp was taking 40 % of her money but that is less of a percentage than agencies and lets face it, what she had left over was CASH and probably 90k.

The people I really feel sorry for are the rest of us who slave away, particularly the ones in minimum wage jobs.
 

johnny

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Hard for me to feel sorry for someone that made $2000 a week. The problem is alot of these women will not go from making $2000 to $5000 a week to making $12 or even $20 an hour. They get to used to the big money and then its hard to come back to earth and make an average persons salary. so whats the governmetn to do? they should give them more cash.
If i got paid between 2 and 5 thousand a wek doing something that wasnt healthy for me, it woudl be hard for me to get oout of that business too.
anyone here ever have their salary cut by 3 quarters and be happy with it?
 

SecretRendezvous

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40% is industry standard in Toronto. Off of $250/hour girls make $150.

In Durham it is about the same. Some places use to take half, but that died off about 5 years ago.

I only take 30% and offer more then any agency out here.

Pimps to me take more then half. A pimp leaves a girl no money. That is how they keep these girls.

So as I said, I question how much actual investigation was done. I feel for the girl. I would never treat any of my ladies like that. There is no way she would be MIA from me for 6 hours, and no way would she get raped at my place. One of the reasons we have more then one girl at location. I have many security systems in place to ensure theses things don't happen, but I really wonder who this girl was, why she worked for the people she did. How she was not able to work for a good agency or even learn enough to help her going indy. I wonder if there was drug issues, etc. She was a cutter, and so I know I would not have hired her. Some of these things could have made things worse for her as her personal issue may have made it harder for her to get work with a safe and reliable agency.

These are just assumptions of course.
 

K Douglas

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I'm very careful about who I choose to hobby with - independent escorts are my first choice and occasionally will use a reputable agency. I cannot condone this type of behaviour in the least bit. Pimps are scum of the earth. My heart goes out to Jamie Lynn, I hope she can recover from this.
 

jaygood

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How is this any different from changing jobs? I mean, leaving aside any forced aspects? When I read the story and saw that her only alternative was welfare, it burned me up. she could just save some money, get a job at timmies, heck, get two jobs. welfare!!!!
A sad story indeed. The thing is, the psychological damage was done at an early age. So people question why she made these choices without looking at then onsets - was initially raped 12 years before and according to the story, was abused in some way or another through most of her life (she is only 21).

I think it is easy for someone who has not experienced this type of trauma to say " why doesn't she just go work at Timmy's" without having any understanding of the problems she is going through and is faced with at such a young age. Funny, people are like sheep and follow paths that are familiar with and feel "comfortable" or akin to. I think that in no way should this be a reflection of how the industry is run but rather a imaage of thise desperate with no knowledge of where to turn.

I am not sure how a young, very young woman can just go and work among people who have not been through even half of what she has been through and relate to them.


The fact that she cuts herself show obvious psychological problems.

Super, where does it say that she- herself, made 2000 per week??
 

majicstick

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I don't understand this pimp business! Why have a pimp or "boyfriend"? It's just really hard to have any sympathy for women like this. On one hand it's just tragic because how desperate must a girl be to stay with these abusers when they don't have to, but then on the other hand, theses girls make choices and want the easy way out. Yes, the welfare thing is just ridiculous.Maybe some SP's could explain as I have no idea.
 

lovedoc

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I don't understand this pimp business! Why have a pimp or "boyfriend"? It's just really hard to have any sympathy for women like this. On one hand it's just tragic because how desperate must a girl be to stay with these abusers when they don't have to, but then on the other hand, theses girls make choices and want the easy way out. Yes, the welfare thing is just ridiculous.Maybe some SP's could explain as I have no idea.
With all the reputable agencies in Toronto, why not apply for one who will take care of their best interest and not their handlers?

My conclusion, the pimps get them when they're young and vulnerable, reprogram their circuits where fear and security becomes their reality....that's the pimp business in a nut shell.
 

SkyRider

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More reasons why Canada should legalize brothels. A place where ladies can work in safety from both pimps and the law.
 

tool_man05

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It's like an SP recently told me, it's easy money! That's the draw. Even ones that have good paying civilian jobs succom to the lure of the money and easy work hours. Lots of free time.
 

Mr. Piggy

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It's like an SP recently told me, it's easy money! That's the draw. Even ones that have good paying civilian jobs succom to the lure of the money and easy work hours. Lots of free time.
It's not just easy money, it's tax free as well.
 

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I try to research carefully and don't want to see anyone who's not into it, for whatever reason, and I certainly wouldn't repeat with them if so.
Mikehorn's phylosophy is the same as mine. Further, I always try to have sufficent a conversation with agency women to see if something seems untoward. However, at the same time I don't believe this should be an excuse for not notifiying the agency of poor service merely because there is a remote possibility that . . .

The “hobby” has been a “hobby horse” of the Sun for at least the past two or three years I wonder what got them off on this “crusade.”.
 
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