Of course this has nothing to do with Islam. I mean look at the track record of most muslim countries. They are such great people, especially towards women. There are no mercy killings, stonings, state run terrorism, fair trials, due process, illegal acts of terror in any muslim run country. LOL.I'm sorry, but I find your post racist and insulting. The attack had nothing to do with Islam.
State run terrorism? Sorry, the US, and by extension Canada, has a history of state terrorism. Pinochet, the Contra's, support for Saudi Arabia, Marcos. Due process and fair trials? Gitmo Bay basically shoves your argument out the window. And how about how easily we give up the right to free speech in this country if someone is saying something that we don't want to hear? Just ask the 900 peaceful protesters during the G20, some of the women were strip searched and had internal cavity searches done by male officers, and no facilities were made available to contact lawyers. And the West has a history of extrajudicial killing. And what about the KKK in the US? And don't forget that during my lifetime that it was a legitimate defence to bring up a woman's sexual history and how she was dressed during a rape trial.Of course this has nothing to do with Islam. I mean look at the track record of most muslim countries. They are such great people, especially towards women. There are no mercy killings, stonings, state run terrorism, fair trials, due process, illegal acts of terror in any muslim run country. LOL.
It has everything to do with Islam. They hate when their children gravitate towards anything western. They hate movies, they hate coke a cola, they hate the freedom women enjoy. One boy was brave enough to embrace western values because he liked to watch football, and he paid for it with his life..
All good points. The difference being the majority of citizens in both the US and Canada recognize all of those actions to be wrong. We don't support them. But, to be Islamic is to put your faith in a certain set of beliefs, which in this case include an intolerant stance towards other beliefs, sexism, etc. How can you say you are Islamic if you don't believe in that which is decreed by your own religion? Can you be Christian, but not believe in God? We say Islamic beliefs are lunacy because they condone inhumane acts, and people who support those acts must also be lunatics. I don't support the KKK. I don't support Gitmo practices. I don't support the arresting of peaceful protesters as my posts obviously show. And I don't support the white male police officer who killed his wife (I don't think the police handbook does either). I think you are confusing the issues.State run terrorism? Sorry, the US, and by extension Canada, has a history of state terrorism. Pinochet, the Contra's, support for Saudi Arabia, Marcos. Due process and fair trials? Gitmo Bay basically shoves your argument out the window. And how about how easily we give up the right to free speech in this country if someone is saying something that we don't want to hear? Just ask the 900 peaceful protesters during the G20, some of the women were strip searched and had internal cavity searches done by male officers, and no facilities were made available to contact lawyers. And the West has a history of extrajudicial killing. And what about the KKK in the US? And don't forget that during my lifetime that it was a legitimate defence to bring up a woman's sexual history and how she was dressed during a rape trial.
Seeing as our society condemns such acts, but the Islamic world only frowns upon and offers a slap on the wrist (in case of males anyway), my educated guess would be that your guess is pretty far from the truth. However, reported cases might be higher in the western world.While we may not have mercy killings, we have rape and incest. And probably a much higher incidence than in the Islamic world, but that is just a guess. When was the last time you read about a father keeping his daughter prisoner in an underground room as a sex slave and murdering his own child/grandchild? Or how about some sex offender that kept a sex slave for 20 years while the parole system ignored the warning signs.
Agree with you here. The capitalist system has some major flaws. But so do all economic, social, or political systems we've seen come to the fore.Or how about a Western culture that puts an emphasis on the domination of nature for profit? The Exxon Valdeez and the PB problem are signs of institutionalized not giving a shit about anyone or anything else other than the bottom line. Why is it that in the US they pay basket ball players and Hollywood actors millions of dollars, but refuse to give medical treatment to those that can't afford it.
Islam is an intolerant religion by definition, and therefore part of the problem. However, I agree with the rest of your statement. Closed-mindedness is a problem. But you can't automatically assume someone is closed-minded because they don't see things the way you do. Your way is not the "right" way, it is only "a" way.The real problem is not "Islam", but the closed minded racist jerks on both sides of the table that would rather hate and kill then learn about someone different.
I'd usually let Roadshuttle defend himself, but thought I'd comment on this anyway. There are quite a few incidents that show the flaws of Islamic belief, and he chose to point some out. I'm sure he is quite aware that western society has its flaws as well. But for the most part our ideals do not embrace our flaws.Roadshuttle, I have no idea how old you are, but you have a hell of a lot of growing up to do.
Oh, and for the record, the Arab world drinks Pepsi. Any company that does business with Israel is generally boycotted. Israel has Coke, Saudi Arabia has Pepsi.
Which theistic religion is not intolerant by definition?..........................................................................
Islam is an intolerant religion by definition, and
therefore part of the problem.
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Most religions aren't accepting of other beliefs, it's true. But, it's not quite the same thing. Ever heard of the Verse of the Sword? It basically states that Muslims must fight anyone who chooses not to convert to Islam. Not many religions or movements go that far.Which theistic religion is not intolerant by definition?
Totally agree with your argument here. People should not use the expression "Islamic Lunacy" because terrorism has nothing to do with Islam. Those are just extremist bastards! just like in any other religion or society.State run terrorism? Sorry, the US, and by extension Canada, has a history of state terrorism. Pinochet, the Contra's, support for Saudi Arabia, Marcos. Due process and fair trials? Gitmo Bay basically shoves your argument out the window. And how about how easily we give up the right to free speech in this country if someone is saying something that we don't want to hear? Just ask the 900 peaceful protesters during the G20, some of the women were strip searched and had internal cavity searches done by male officers, and no facilities were made available to contact lawyers. And the West has a history of extrajudicial killing. And what about the KKK in the US? And don't forget that during my lifetime that it was a legitimate defence to bring up a woman's sexual history and how she was dressed during a rape trial.
While we may not have mercy killings, we have rape and incest. And probably a much higher incidence than in the Islamic world, but that is just a guess. When was the last time you read about a father keeping his daughter prisoner in an underground room as a sex slave and murdering his own child/grandchild? Or how about some sex offender that kept a sex slave for 20 years while the parole system ignored the warning signs.
Or how about a Western culture that puts an emphasis on the domination of nature for profit? The Exxon Valdeez and the PB problem are signs of institutionalized not giving a shit about anyone or anything else other than the bottom line. Why is it that in the US they pay basket ball players and Hollywood actors millions of dollars, but refuse to give medical treatment to those that can't afford it.
The real problem is not "Islam", but the closed minded racist jerks on both sides of the table that would rather hate and kill then learn about someone different.
Roadshuttle, I have no idea how old you are, but you have a hell of a lot of growing up to do.
Oh, and for the record, the Arab world drinks Pepsi. Any company that does business with Israel is generally boycotted. Israel has Coke, Saudi Arabia has Pepsi.
