Is my friend in trouble??

[VikkiBlue]

Wow, that story reminds me of a girl that was dating a cuban guy. She made several visits to Cuba and one time met his family, they guy introduced his wife as his "sister". I guess you can imagine how the story ended. I think we all take for granted how people from around the world view our Canadian lifestyle.

This is a fact. I can remember when I was on holidays in Jamaica a fella we had hired to drive us to Negril from OR said "You people are so rich you get to go to the movies...I have to rent!" LOL!!!!!

If they think this is paradise...wow...

I think the media has something to do with it...especially all these rock videos.

 

[Aardvark154]

I remember a guy who sponsored an Eastern European gal...he treated her like a queen...then one day about a year and a half after "settling in" she advised him that she was married and her husband was on his way over.

Sponsored, in what way?

For a Business visa or one of the old (no longer issued) Dancer Visas, or for a spousal visa? If the later it would seem that this SCREAMS visa fraud as well as Bigamy- and should have been reported. I'm not getting something here.

 

[Aardvark154]

Wow, that story reminds me of a girl that was dating a cuban guy. She made several visits to Cuba and one time met his family, they guy introduced his wife as his "sister". I guess you can imagine how the story ended.

Hopefully with the man imprisoned and later deported back to Cuba - permently bared from entry to Canada. For course this doesn't change the pain of you friend, but. . .

 

[lapdoggy]

Your friend is beyond a doubt "screwed".

 

[jetfuel]

Hopefully with the man imprisoned and later deported back to Cuba - permently bared from entry to Canada. For course this doesn't change the pain of you friend, but. . .

I believe that he was using her for money, probably viewed her as a ATM. After several trips and money spent on his house repairs, I think she saw the light.

 

[afterhours]

Sponsored, in what way?

For a Business visa or one of the old (no longer issued) Dancer Visas, or for a spousal visa? If the later it would seem that this SCREAMS visa fraud as well as Bigamy- and should have been reported. I'm not getting something here.

In Canada, the Criminal Code (2007) at ¶290 (extract only): "Every one commits bigamy who in Canada, being married, goes through a form of marriage with another person...."

so if sponsor goes overseas to marry (as they all do since it's impossible to get a visa for fiance in this fucking country), no bigamy is committed according to Canadian law

on the other hand, if a sponsored spouse did not indicate her first/actual spouse on her application, that person cannot be sponsored as her family member ever again. (That goes for any relative by the way, including even biological children).

and of course a person can be deported for submitting false info to immigration (i.e. misrepresenting material fact) - if she is not a citizen yet. If she is, they generally would not bother.

 

[afterhours]

No offence Bruce...but usually once the person gets "settled" into Canada...their family is not far behind.
I remember a guy who sponsored an Eastern European gal...he treated her like a queen...then one day about a year and a half after "settling in" she advised him that she was married and her husband was on his way over.

I guess the most important thing that can be said about all of this is...trust is the key. However, unfortunately in this day and age...what is trust?

I think if you surreptitiously record all her conversations with parents/friends during some period of time and get it translated and carefully review it - that would go a long way in establishing trust

 

[lapdoggy]

In Canada, the Criminal Code (2007) at ¶290 (extract only): "Every one commits bigamy who in Canada, being married, goes through a form of marriage with another person...."

so if sponsor goes overseas to marry (as they all do since it's impossible to get a visa for fiance in this fucking country), no bigamy is committed according to Canadian law

on the other hand, if a sponsored spouse did not indicate her first/actual spouse on her application, that person cannot be sponsored as her family member ever again. (That goes for any relative by the way, including even biological children).

Very interesting to say the least!Not that I'll need the info,cause I have specialized radar in this type of situation.

 

[afterhours]

Very interesting to say the least!

yeah, it's pretty interesting how often the law operates in counter intuitive and funny way

 

[The Fruity Hare]

Hopefully with the man imprisoned and later deported back to Cuba - permently bared from entry to Canada. For course this doesn't change the pain of you friend, but. . .

I believe I read on a board where many Canadians shared their stories of being duped into marriage by Cubans that they are rarely if ever deported back to Cuba even when found guilty.

 

[afterhours]

I believe I read on a board where many Canadians shared their stories of being duped into marriage by Cubans that they are rarely if ever deported back to Cuba even when found guilty.

I loved that board where fat ass Canadian bitches screwed by Cuban gigolos bitched about the law that was meant to herd Canadian men towards Canadian fat ass bitches by limiting Canadian men's ability to marry foreign women

 

[lapdoggy]

I loved that board where fat ass Canadian bitches screwed by Cuban gigolos bitched about the law that was meant to limit Canadian men's ability to fuck foreign women and herd them towards Canadian fat ass bitches

What the flying fuck are you saying?That you have a mental hate for"fat assed bitches"?Gawd there needs to be some type of screening process on here for hating psycho's such as yourself.Keep on the subject at hand.

 

[Aardvark154]

I believe I read on a board where many Canadians shared their stories of being duped into marriage by Cubans that they are rarely if ever deported back to Cuba even when found guilty.

Probably because Cuba is such a democratic paradise, and they raise that issue at the deportation hearing.

 

[afterhours]

Probably because Cuba is such a democratic paradise, and they raise that issue at the deportation hearing.

then of course you can only find a good young specimen in such a place. Spaniards or French are not in any hurry to marry Canadians.

 

[mmouse]

they have already been intimate during there 5 year on again off again courtship.

So he hasn't fucked her yet?

The arrangement seems fine to me. From his point of view, he is focused on the prize - defloration, and a cute younger partner that he could never source locally. From hers, she wants full commitment - i.e. marriage - before that happens.

 

[Malibook]

So he hasn't fucked her yet?

"They have already been intimate" would indicate to me that he has fucked her.

Perhaps she will just use this guy until she finds someone better who will give her what she wants.
Maybe she will keep on stringing him along even after she finds someone else.

 

[richaceg]

if he pays the whole tuition fee and doesn't get anything out of it, he's not screwed yet, but he's bound to be screwed. wait til the girl gets her degree, finds a job and finds a better looking man with money. then let's say yeah, your friend was screwed with his penis tucked inside his pants.

 

[thompo69]

In Canada, the Criminal Code (2007) at ¶290 (extract only): "Every one commits bigamy who in Canada, being married, goes through a form of marriage with another person...."

so if sponsor goes overseas to marry (as they all do since it's impossible to get a visa for fiance in this fucking country), no bigamy is committed according to Canadian law

It always helps to read a little further:

290. (1) Every one commits bigamy who

(a) in Canada,

(i) being married, goes through a form of marriage with another person,

(ii) knowing that another person is married, goes through a form of marriage with that person, or

(iii) on the same day or simultaneously, goes through a form of marriage with more than one person; or

(b) being a Canadian citizen resident in Canada leaves Canada with intent to do anything mentioned in subparagraphs (a)(i) to (iii) and, pursuant thereto, does outside Canada anything mentioned in those subparagraphs in circumstances mentioned therein.

Then there is always s.293:

293. (1) Every one who

(a) practises or enters into or in any manner agrees or consents to practise or enter into

(i) any form of polygamy, or

(ii) any kind of conjugal union with more than one person at the same time,

whether or not it is by law recognized as a binding form of marriage, or

(b) celebrates, assists or is a party to a rite, ceremony, contract or consent that purports to sanction a relationship mentioned in subparagraph (a)(i) or (ii),

is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years.

 

[afterhours]

It always helps to read a little further:

...............................
Then there is always s.293:

good try, but it doesn't fly
we were talking about a foreign national who was married in her country and who then remarried the Canadian in that same foreign country
it would always be a foreign national who is a bigamist, not the Canadian as in your example.

polygamy is not gonna stick either, because Canada has no jurisdiction over stuff that happens overseas, subject to very limited number of exceptions

 

[thompo69]

good try, but it doesn't fly
we were talking about a foreign national who was married in her country and who then remarried the Canadian in that same foreign country
it would always be a foreign national who is a bigamist, not the Canadian as in your example.

If the Canadian is aware that the foreign national is already married, then yes, they are violating s.293(1)(b) of the Criminal Code.

polygamy is not gonna stick either, because Canada has no jurisdiction over stuff that happens overseas, subject to very limited number of exceptions

I had assumed that we were talking about people who got married in another country and then returned to Canada.