Flotilla Choir presents: We CON the world

[fuji]

Wait, is that the same UN that has Sudan on the Human rights council? The same Turkey that Says they have no problems with what is going on in Darfur? The same Palestinians that...well you know.

To be fair Sudan's term on the UNHRC has expired, but yes.

It is essentially useless to talk about "the UN" as the UN is comprised of both credible organizations like UNSC or WHO, and ridiculously biased groups like UNRWA and UNHRC. As a rule the General Assembly and anything closely connected to it is utterly and completely useless due to the one-vote-per-banana-republic rule it operates under. Only organizations with substantial autonomy like WHO (largely run by doctors rather than politicians) or UNSC (limited to serious countries) produce anything useful.

 

[flubadub]

T Only organizations with substantial autonomy like WHO (largely run by doctors rather than politicians) or UNSC (limited to serious countries) produce anything useful.

And here's what the WHO has to say:

1 June 2010 ¦ JERUSALEM -- The World Health Organization renews a call to allow for the unimpeded access into the Gaza Strip of life-saving medical supplies, including equipment and medicines, as well as more effective movement of people in and out of the territory for medical training and the repair of devices needed to deliver appropriate healthcare.
Hundreds of items of equipment have been waiting to enter Gaza for up to a year, procured by WHO and other organizations, says Mr Tony Laurance, head of WHO's office for Gaza and the West Bank. These items include CT scanners, x-rays, fluoroscopes, infusion pumps, medical sterilization gasses, laboratory equipment, UPS (uninterrupted power supply) batteries, and spare parts for support systems like elevators.
"It is impossible to maintain a safe and effective healthcare system under the conditions of siege that have been in place now since June 2007," Mr Laurance says. "It is not enough to simply ensure supplies like drugs and consumables. Medical equipment and spare parts must be available and be properly maintained."

http://www.emro.who.int/palestine/reports/advocacy_HR/advocacy/WHO%20-Press%20statement-June2010.pdf

 

[fuji]

Sure, the question is how to do that without providing Hamas access to radioactive materials and bomb making equipment. Everyone agrees it should happen--how is the hard part.

 

[basketcase]

Another issue with Turkey complaining about Israel's actions (while ignoring the problems in their own house).

G20 Girls, Turkey: Killing for ‘honour’

She lived in fear. She ran to the police for help. But, in the end, nothing saved 16-year-old Medine Memi from a barbaric death — buried alive in a pit underneath her family’s chicken coop in remote southeastern Turkey.

Memi was allegedly one of the 200 or more female victims of honor killing each year in Turkey. Her death, in 2009, highlights dangers for girls in the Kurdish community who dare to defy their conservative-minded families by wearing form-fitting clothes, uncovering their hair or socializing with young men outside the home.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/torontog20summit/article/823746--g20-girls-turkey-killing-for-honour

 

[flubadub]

Sure, the question is how to do that without providing Hamas access to radioactive materials and bomb making equipment. Everyone agrees it should happen--how is the hard part.

Looks like Israel is allowing the aid in finally, here's what Al Jazeera had to say about it:

Nicole Johnston, Al Jazeera's correspondent in Gaza, said it would take a few days for the aid to reach its destination.

"The main sticking point had been Israel's unwillingness to allow construction material and cement into the Strip, they are usually banned items in Gaza as Israel is afraid of Hamas building bunkers.

"It is important to remember this aid is only a drop in the ocean compared to the needs of Gazans.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2010/06/2010615174353785239.html

Imagine that, Israel not letting cement in.
But I thought Fudgey said they let cement in whenever it was needed.

And looks like the flotillas goals are being met, the blockade and closure will be eased. What couldn't be done politically is being achieved by the flotilla, at great personal cost.

Also on Tuesday, Israeli media reported that the country's security cabinet were to meet to consider the possibility of easing the blockade on the Gaza Strip.

Both the public channel and Channel 10 private TV said that Binyamin Netanyahu, Israel's prime minister, under strong international pressure, had decided to "considerably" ease the blockade and to take steps to that end on Wednesday.

A senior Israeli official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said only that the 15-member security cabinet would "examine on Wednesday matters related to the Gaza Strip."

 

[fuji]

LBut I thought Fudgey said they let cement in whenever it was needed.

Misspelling my name is childish and shows your mental age. What I said was they let cement in when the delivery and construction are supervised by a UN body.

And looks like the flotillas goals are being met, the blockade and closure will be eased. What couldn't be done politically is being achieved by the flotilla, at great personal cost.

I think the closure will be eased, I doubt the blockade will. Nobody in their right mind would think that Hamas should be able to import whatever it wants.

Flub, what's your opinion of Hamas? Momma Theresa?

 

[flubadub]

Misspelling my name is childish and shows your mental age.

Any different then referring to me as Flubby?

 

[gryfin]

Are you playing with a full deck, lickspittle? You did this yourself in #35. Given the borderline gibberish you've been posting, this inability to recognize your own actions calls into question your grasp on reality.

Misspelling my name is childish and shows your mental age.

Earlier in this thread:

Can't you read, flubby? This was a speech he gave the same day as the flotilla raid and he simply used his appearance there as a moment to comment on it. He does not comment in any way on the jurisdiction of the ICC over Israel.

 

[fuji]

Sorry you named yourself "flubadub" I thought "flub" and "flubby" would be acceptable, I'll quit using it as I meant no insult and didn't realize that one was perceived.

 

[fuji]

Flubadub, what's your opinion of Hamas? Momma Theresa?

 

[flubadub]

Flubadub, what's your opinion of Hamas? Momma Theresa?

Momma Theresa, I don't have an opinion on.

Hamas has some good and some bad.
They are less corrupt than the PA (good), more theocratic (bad), keep some things in order (good), take part in infighting (bad), are possible war criminals (Goldstone, quite bad), are the present democratic representatives of Gaza (good).


What's your opinion on 'crimes against humanity' on a population that is comprised of 46% children?

 

[fuji]

You and Goldstone both under-estimate just how bad Hamas are. They don't just "take part in fighting", they do everything in their power to kill as many Israeli civilians as they can. They only reason why they aren't more successful are the restrictions, blockades, and security fences imposed by Israel. Hamas would, if they could, kill every single Jew in Israel.

They say so in their founding charter. They say so on a regular basis. They say so even in the TV shows they produce for children.

When they say they are willing to accept a cease fire with Israel they always go on to say that it's so they can re-arm and re-group for the ultimate destruction of Israel.