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What are we to make of this (British Muslims jeer returning troops)

Aardvark154

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What are we to make of this sort of behaviour? Yes it appears to be a minority viewpoint, but where were "mainstream" South Asian Ancestry British Muslims to say this isn't how we feel?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...urderers-homecoming-parade-turns-violent.html

The Daily Mail

Muslim protesters brand war heroes 'murderers' as homecoming parade turns violent


A group of extremist Muslims prompted violent clashes at a homecoming parade for British troops today after they heckled soldiers and called them 'murderers.'

Members of the Muslim Against the Crusade group clashed with far right protesters as they shouted 'murderers, murderers, murderers' and 'British troops go to hell' as members of the 1st Battalion the Royal Anglian Regiment paraded down the streets of Barking, Essex.

The chants were drowned out by a large mob on the opposite side of the street who retaliated with jeers of 'Traitors' to the Muslim protesters.

The hour-long parade had been delayed due to growing tensions between the two sides, with anti-Muslim Against the Crusade protestors singing God Save the Queen and drinkers at a nearby pub hurling frozen pork sausages at the Muslims.

Moments after the soldiers passed through tensions reached boiling point and the anti-Muslim Against the Crusade campaigners broke through the barricades, charged across the road and traded punches with the Muslim throng.

Police quickly separated the mob, with one man wrestled to the ground, handcuffed and led away while the police made a ring surrounding the Muslim group.

They then had to hold back the anti-Muslim group as the Muslim Against the Crusade protesters made their way to a tube station.

Two men were arrested after the violence, for public order offences.

Local woman Dee McEvoy, 50, stood in front of the Muslims protesters, waving her two union Jack flags as the soldiers passed. She said: 'I'm here for the army and the British forces. The protesters are entitled to their opinion but they are taking it out on the wrong people. They should be taking it out on the Government.

'This is not the reception these boys and girls deserve. But it is democracy in action.' Earlier the Muslim group was attacked by a barrage of eggs.

One member of the Muslim Against the Crusade group used a megaphone to shout: 'This is a protest against parading in a Muslim area. We love death the way you love life.' He branded British soldiers as 'butchers' and 'despots'.

The Muslim protesters chanted 'Democracy' as they had an uneasy stand-off against a mob, some waving St George's Crosses, Union flags and an English Defence League flag.

Anti-Muslim Against the Crusade protesters sang 'I'll be English 'till my dying day,' and jeered 'We pay your benefits'.

Further down the street onlookers, who had arrived simply to pay their respects to the soldiers, were disgusted by the scenes.

The girlfriend of a Royal Anglian soldier killed in Afghanistan said the extremists should have been banned from attending the parade.

Lance Corporal Scott Hardy, 26, from Chelmsford in Essex, was killed in an explosion near Musa Qala on Tuesday March 16, just weeks before he was due to return home.

Lance Corporal Hardy's partner Charlene Byrne, 24, said: 'It's absolutely disgusting. I know this kind of thing has happened before in Luton but I don't understand how it has been allowed to happened again.

'It's terrible that this group has got away with it. Obviously not everyone supports what's happening in Afghanistan, there are people who are very angry about it, but they shouldn't take it out on the soldiers.'

Emily Penson-Clark, who took the day off work to support the soldiers with her young daughter and parents said: 'I think the protesters are filth. I'm here to support our troops. They put their lives on the line for us. I've got three words: Help for Heroes.'
The soldiers remained undaunted by the abuse, and marched through the town centre with fixed bayonets, accompanied by the Minden Band, a Colour Party and two guards of 70 officers and non-commisioned officers.

The Freedom parade stopped briefly in Barking Town Square where the Mayor, Councillor Nirmal Singh Gill, General Sir John McColl and the Queen's deputy Lieutenant Major Anthony O'Hagan took a salute and inspected the troops.
 

dcbogey

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What are we to make of this sort of behaviour? Yes it appears to be a minority viewpoint, but where were "mainstream" South Asian Ancestry British Muslims to say this isn't how we feel?
It is what it is. I don't think for a minute that I have my finger on the pulse of what the "mainstream south asian" thinks or feels, nor frankly do I care. This strikes me as one bunch of morons protesting, while another group voiced their counterpoint.
 

Aardvark154

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It is what it is. I don't think for a minute that I have my finger on the pulse of what the "mainstream south asian" thinks or feels, nor frankly do I care. This strikes me as one bunch of morons protesting, while another group voiced their counterpoint.
But MAC claim that their goal is to remake the U.K. in their image. If we are going to be told that most Muslims don't think like this, where are they to say so publicly?
 

Don

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Didn't this happen in the US with returning soldiers from Vietnam getting jeered by their own people?
 

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Didn't this happen in the US with returning soldiers from Vietnam getting jeered by their own people?
Sadly it did
 

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The protesters are only after one thing: Publicity. They care not if their facts are incorrect, if they offend anyone or any other group or anything else. As Don King once said "I don't care what they say about me as long as they spell my name right".
If these protesters would listen I would point out to them that here in the West, armies and the police for that matter, do not participate in politics, as they do in the Moslem countries where most of them were born. Here the government directs the police and military according to laws (as flawed a system as that may be). In their homeland the government must have the support of the military and police to stay in power. Therefore they would never dare protest against the army in their homeland, and certainly not during a military parade.
Their very act of protest is a confirmation of our way of life. I know its tough to put up with this and as someone retired from the military, I would have been livid to witness this in person.
Maybe we should offer them all free airfare to the Moslem capital of their choice where they could recreate the same protest against the local army or police and test my theory?
 

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The protesters are only after one thing: Publicity. They care not if their facts are incorrect, if they offend anyone or any other group or anything else. As Don King once said "I don't care what they say about me as long as they spell my name right".
If these protesters would listen I would point out to them that here in the West, armies and the police for that matter, do not participate in politics, as they do in the Moslem countries where most of them were born. Here the government directs the police and military according to laws (as flawed a system as that may be). In their homeland the government must have the support of the military and police to stay in power. Therefore they would never dare protest against the army in their homeland, and certainly not during a military parade.
Their very act of protest is a confirmation of our way of life. I know its tough to put up with this and as someone retired from the military, I would have been livid to witness this in person.
Maybe we should offer them all free airfare to the Moslem capital of their choice where they could recreate the same protest against the local army or police and test my theory?
That is all great in theory, but on the battlefield, the government has little control and many crimes and acts of barbarity are committed by individuals.
 

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What is going on here is that there is a rapidly growing sub-culture in England that has no loyalty or allegiance to their resident homeland but, instead is loyal to Islam and all Islamic countries.

They feel that it is justified when Islamists attack non-Muslim civilian targets such as blowing up a subway, yet any retaliatory action by non-Muslims is an atrocity.

This sub-culture doesn’t mind enjoying the freedom and prosperity that their new homeland affords them. They don’t mind cashing their welfare cheques while they plot the country’s destruction.

It’s just like a bunch of fleas trying to kill the dog.
 

rama putri

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What is going on here is that there is a rapidly growing sub-culture in England that has no loyalty or allegiance to their resident homeland but, instead is loyal to Islam and all Islamic countries.
People, it's NOT a sub-culture. It's rapidly becoming main culture, if not already. Sigh.
 

Don

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To me, that was when America still had a conscience.
Well I thought it was disgusting. Don't spit on the soldiers who served. If you disagreed with the war, protest to the government. Of course, as someone who has served his country, I am biased
 
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