Spring Rolls is Thai food, not Chinese food. I think the title may bother someone. How about that - "In my opinion, Chinese are one of the best business men"
In my opinion, Chinese are the best business men
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Spring rolls is Chinese (chow mein, black bean stir fries, etc), Thai (curries, pad thais), Viet (pho, spring rolls) , and some lame americanized dishes (brocoli and oyster sauce, tango mango chicken)... They provide good service and atmosphere, but the food is just not that good (except for their spring rolls).
I think the jury's still out on whether they're good businessmen. The chinese in china have for the most part traded on their vast, cheap populations, their willingness to degrade their environment (the pollution even in Beijing is horrendous, this info. I get from a close chinese business associate), and their somewhat questionable mercantilism. Take away these factors, let them compete on quality and not price, then we'll see if they can reach the japanese and germans (not canucks; we sell rocks, trees and oil and that's about it). Anyway, as people I like the chinese very much, I have to say. I like them better than english canadians.
Everyone is so sensitive. This is what is wrong with the World. I guess it is also wrong to depict Muhammad in the media.
Your simple mind cannot see that monkey is used in this context because they have the characteristic of imitating. This indicates that people cannot hide who they really are by having material things. This is a proverb. You should do some thinking for a change.
I would agree... a person is really no better or worse based on their appearance or what they own. If I won the lotto max, and bought all armani suits the next day... would I really be any different/better?
Back to the topic at hand, anyone that's taken a business course will tell you that there's three main types of competition for any product. A) Provide the same product at a lower price B) Provide more for the same price C) Provide a suitable alternative. The chinese consumers and business men generally opt for B, and sometimes A.
For consumers.... Chinese consumers, while they're all driving bimmers, and dressed in LV, they NEVER pay full price. They also don't buy on credit, which puts them way ahead of the game. They're trying to maximize their dollars, and are willing to comprimise quality and service for quantity quite often. Ultimately, the customers want their product fast, and cheap. The 'non-asians' want it all and are willing to pay for it, and even put it on credit if they can't afford it right now.
From the business side... They know what the consumers want. This is why when you go and eat in chinatown, they'll skimp on the service and decor. There is generally minimum staff, they don't talk to you because that just slows them down and raises costs, they don't provide extra anything, the decor and service doesn't promote sitting in there taking up valuable space, you often have to write down your own order. But again, its all quick and cheap. 'Non-asians' are generally taken aback/disgusted by the way things are done, but that's just their style, and if they ever changed it they'd lose their base customers.
I don't want to sound like a stereotyper, but the Chinese and Jews are very similar in their value systems. They generally hold education as very important, in addition to family, hard work and upward social mobility. The Jews receive their teachings and value system from the Torah, while the Chinese have their roots in Confucius. Chinese and Jews are generally despised throughout the world, all throughout history. They generally do very well, where ever they are. For example, there were roits against the Chinese in different parts of Southeast Asia; the Chinese, being the minority, owned a lot of businesses and properties throughout places like Vietnam, Laos, The Philippines, Thailand, Indonesia, etc. and the local populations have rioted against them in the past. And so today, upward social mobility brings respect and fear from the other races.
You are not capable of finding the source so here you go:
Lucian, The Ignorant Book Collector 4 (tr. H.W. and F.G. Fowler):
πίθηκος γὰρ ὁ πίθηκος, ἡ παροιμία φησί, κἂν χρύσεα ἔχῃ σύμβολα.
An ape is still an ape, says the proverb, though his trappings be of gold.
Claudian, Against Eutropius 1.303-306 (tr. Maurice Platnauer):
humani qualis simulator simius oris,
quem puer adridens pretioso stamine Serum
velavit nudasque nates ac terga reliquit,
ludibrium mensis.
'Twas as though an ape, man's imitator, had been decked out in sport with precious silken garments by a boy who had left his back and quarters uncovered to amuse the guests at supper.
Spanish Proverb:
Aunque la mona se vista de seda, mona se queda.
Although the monkey dresses in silk, she remains a monkey.
Erasmus, Praise of Folly 17:
iuxta Graecorum proverbium, simia semper est simia, etiam si purpura vestiatur.
According to the proverb of the Greeks, an ape is always an ape, even if it's dressed in purple.
This applies to all humankind. You are who you are. Why would you want to change that anyway? Be true to yourself. Material things do not make who you are. If you think like that you are the one thinking that they are different.
Like Master_Bates said:
What juanbrujo is guilty of is not realizing how PC this world is now. That quote is an old, common one around the world. A primate is seen as the closest relative we have in the animal kingdom to us and the old proverb was around long before PC got into vogue.
Being politically correct is ridiculous.
I cannot say Merry Christmas because I might insult non Christians and atheists. I have to use Happy Holidays.
I cannot call a janitor a janitor. I have to call him a custodial engineer and a garbage hauler is a sanitation engineer.
I cannot call someone deaf. I have to use the term hearing impaired.
I cannot call someone blind. I have to use the term visually impaired.
I cannot call someone handicap. I have to use the term physically impaired.
I cannot say Anno Domini (AD). I have to use the term Common Era (CE).
I cannot even call God a him because some women will be angered.
I cannot call a teacher incompetent because a teacher's union will be all over me. However, it is OK to say that all Priests are pedophiles even if the vast majority is not like that. The difference is that the Priests will not fight back.
And let's not forget the famous ones:
I cannot use the word Indian. I have to use the term Native American.
I cannot use the word Black. I have to use the term African American.
People just divide themselves from others by using all these stupid terms.
not so
Historically, Europeans are the best business people, especially Dutch and British, then Americans. So are Jews and Japanese. They are all unethical and exploited Chinese, Indians and aboriginals! Chinese are historically corrupt, like to blow their money to show off, and arrogant - not willing to accept new ideas and technology - which lead to the downfall of their civilization while Europeans and Japanese rose to powers. It is only now that they realize they have to do anything to "catch up" that makes them very frugal, industrious and would go great length sometimes even exploitation. But no matter how Chiense businessmen exploit, it cannot compare to how Brits or Japanese exploited Chinese in the late 19 and early 20th century. The payback time has only begun!
Historically, Europeans are the best business people, especially Dutch and British, then Americans. So are Jews and Japanese. They are all unethical and exploited Chinese, Indians and aboriginals! Chinese are historically corrupt, like to blow their money to show off, and arrogant - not willing to accept new ideas and technology - which lead to the downfall of their civilization while Europeans and Japanese rose to powers. It is only now that they realize they have to do anything to "catch up" that makes them very frugal, industrious and would go great length sometimes even exploitation. But no matter how Chiense businessmen exploit, it cannot compare to how Brits or Japanese exploited Chinese in the late 19 and early 20th century. The payback time has only begun!
We have to remember that in Toronto we see the more ambitious of any people - those who leave home to make a better life for their family. This skews our perception of their race as a whole, we don't see the lazy or satisfied of them as often because they remained in their country.
I don't have any problem with what I wrote.
I am expressing my opinions and others can either agree or disagree. I am only talking about the Chinese in a business context.
wrong! the british empire forced opium on the quing dynasty starting the century of humilation with western powers having colonies in china called concessions. infact when europe was still primitive china and others places on other continents where more advanced
Labelling Chinese as "monkey" is not being honest, "as matter of facts" & non-PC but rather absolutely disrespect to others.
