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hardy2003

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Gryfin, just shut up and stop being so obsessed. It's humour!!!! Can't you laugh at anything besides the first hour of Schindler's List?
 

flubadub

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Yes, Gryfin, it's a parody. Well done parody at that, and bang on.
Bang on like a four shots to the head and one to the chest.
As happened to a 19 year old American on board.

Tasteless and racist.
First kill the humanitiarians then make a funny video about it.
Way to argue your case, Israel.
 

fuji

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Bang on like a four shots to the head and one to the chest.
As happened to a 19 year old American on board.

Tasteless and racist.
First kill the humanitiarians then make a funny video about it.
Way to argue your case, Israel.
Yeah, the armed "humanitarians" who beat soldiers and take them hostage. Those "humanitarians".

Looks like they made you abandon reason and believe that the hamas is momma theresa.
 

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Yeah, the armed "humanitarians" who beat soldiers and take them hostage. Those "humanitarians".

Looks like they made you abandon reason and believe that the hamas is momma theresa.

Right, because their ship was being boarded and man's natural instinct is to defend himself.
Illegally boarded btw.
 

hardy2003

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You guys seriously need to get laid. Flubadub, I've always found Zionists to be more sex-positive than Southern racists. Southern racists do have better sunglasses though. You Islamo-Nazi supporters have no sense of humour. I guess that's why there's a lot more Jewish comedians than Islamo-Nazi ones. Imagine these guys as comics. Two Jihadists walk into a Gay bar...on yells Allah Akbar!!! Other ones says: "not yet Achmed! let's visit glory holes first!!!!!"
 
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Israel acted well within the confines of international law and maritime practice in enforcing a legitimate blockade of the Hamas forces in the Gaza Strip. Moreover, in halting the flotilla, the Israeli forces involved in the incident began with restraint. International Waters are of no account, if it is clear that the ship is clearly heading towards a blockaded area... the US Navy for instance, has been known to halt and inspect suspected North Korean ships bound for Iran on the high seas on numerous occasions.

Blockades and interdictions are common, and have been so for decades since the Second World War (where unrestricted violence was frequently used). The normal convention is to open communications and demand the ship 'heave to'; if it fails to comply a shot from a large caliber gun or a burst from a machinegun is fired across its bows. If the ship still refuses to comply; this is repeated -- albeit the shot is aimed more carefully and comes closer to the ship. If the ship still refuses to halt, it is warned once more before a shot is fired at its bridge. If it still refuses to heave to, the blockading force has the right to sink it. Once a ship has hove to or slowed down, it may be boarded by personnel from the blockading force.

The Israelis offered another choice to the flotilla (which was refused) and otherwise seems to have behaved with restraint. It is not clear if the ships came to a dead stop or proceeded towards Gaza and a slow pace, but it is abundantly clear they were not sunk!

It is also abundantly clear that the passengers and crews of the boarded ships offered potentially lethal violence -- using "improvised" weapons that had been carefully stowed beforehand. A crate of dishes dropped on someone's head from 6m overhead does not seem as malevolent as shooting them, but a crushed skull is a crushed skull regardless. High pressure hoses and swung chains directed at somebody climbing a rope ladder from a zodiac boat are also potentially lethal.

Canadian and US naval personnel boarding ships (as they regularly do) brandish submachine guns and shotguns; the Israelis came aboard with paintball guns only to be reminded of an unwelcome truth. Metre long metal rods and knives do not seem as lethal as modern assault rifles, but they are in close confines in the dark. This is a calculation that was made ahead of time by many of the so-called peace activists. Many police bulletins remind officers -- often using graphic photographs -- that somebody with a knife within arms reach is equally deadly to a man with a handgun; a man armed with a paintball gun is in very serious danger.

The restraint that the IDF personnel showed on boarding the vessels of the flotilla was directly responsible for the loss of life that ensued when the protestors' pre-planned brawl erupted. Next time, the IDF should behave in a manner more consistent with those used by other navies (including those of Canada) in similar circumstances -- display your firepower and don't hesitate to use it. It saves lives in the long run.
 

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interesting comments, although prediccble in the extream, HARDY 2003 has a point.

The big thing here is a quote from somebody ( paraphrased)

When they start laughing AT you you are in serious trouble.
 

fuji

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Right, because their ship was being boarded and man's natural instinct is to defend himself.
Illegally boarded btw.
No-one has put forward a credible argument why it's illegal, Israel has a right to blockade under Article 51. What's your natural instinct when the police pull you over, do you jump out with an iron rod and beat the police officer?
 

gryfin

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No-one has put forward a credible argument why it's illegal, Israel has a right to blockade under Article 51. What's your natural instinct when the police pull you over, do you jump out with an iron rod and beat the police officer?
The blockade is a war crime. The 560 page Goldstone Report provides the evidence and the relevant War Crimes legislation. It recommends Israel be taken to the International Criminal Court.
 

fuji

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The blockade is a war crime. The 560 page Goldstone Report provides the evidence and the relevant War Crimes legislation. It recommends Israel be taken to the International Criminal Court.
You are lying. You already know that the only agency in the world that can legally determine whether the blockade is legal or not is the UN Security Council.

The Goldstone report is a flawed piece of propaganda, I've already explained to you before why it's discredited:

1. It was produced by a UN "agency" that even the reports authors admit is hostile towards Israel

2. It was given a mandate that denied any other conclusion but that Israel was the aggressor

3. It was staffed by completely biased people--members of activist organizations that are hostile towards Israel, several of whom had already previously published letters calling Cast Lead a war crime

4. It did not have sufficient information to conduct any kind of investigation whatsoever, as Israel refused to provide it with any information

It's a bunch of horse shit.
 

Cobster

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Your #1 is funny Fuji, considering Goldstone himself comes from an influential Jewish background.


He railed both sides fairly equally, of course Israel doesn't like it because they were probably hoping that someone whose mother was Jewish would lean towards their side, but he didn't.
That has to hurt huh?


#5 is funny, because Israel refuses to do a lot of things and you're right, providing information is one of them (and it happens a lot) - case in point, the flotilla raid and them not releasing information or tapes from those recording on the boat.
 

flubadub

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You are lying. You already know that the only agency in the world that can legally determine whether the blockade is legal or not is the UN Security Council.

The Goldstone report is a flawed piece of propaganda, I've already explained to you before why it's discredited:

It's a bunch of horse shit.
I can hardly wait to see how those argumenst play out at the ICC.
 
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