Times Article: UK high school teacher picked on by students, goes berserk.

alexmst

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Teacher Peter Harvey shouted 'die, die' as he hit misbehaving pupil with dumbbell

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article7108423.ece

A stressed teacher “went mad” and tried to kill a pupil by bludgeoning him with a dumbbell and shouting “die! die! die!”, a court was told yesterday.

The schoolchildren secretly filmed themselves teasing Peter Harvey, a science teacher, who snapped under the provocation and attacked the 14-year-old boy after dragging him from a lesson.

The teenager, who cannot be named for legal reasons, suffered a fractured skull and bleeding to the brain after being struck with the 3kg weight. He spent five days in hospital recovering from his injuries. After his arrest the 49-year-old science teacher told police he believed he had “killed the boy”.

The father of two denies attempting to murder the pupil and causing grievous bodily harm with intent, but has pleaded guilty to a lesser charge of causing grievous bodily harm.

Opening the case for the prosecution, Stuart Rafferty told the jury that the attack happened at All Saints Roman Catholic School in Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, shortly after Mr Harvey had returned to work after time off for stress.

Some of the pupils regarded him as a soft touch and tried to push the boundaries with him, but that does not justify what was to happen,” he said.

Nottingham Crown Court was told that Mr Harvey had been a teacher at the secondary school for 16 years, but his career had been disrupted in December 2008 when he told an education adviser he felt his actions “could not be trusted and he might cause harm to someone”.

He was sent home and visited his doctor before being signed off from school suffering stress and depression.

In April last year he returned to work where, Mr Rafferty said, he appeared “happy and well” with his symptoms under control. But while taking a year 9 class of 13 to 14-year-olds the attack took place.

“The victim took up a wooden metre rule and began a sword fight with it. He then took up a metal Bunsen burner stand and was waving it about.

“Mr Harvey chased him around the classroom, then the boy told him to, f*** off. That lit the blue touch paper.

“In a general description, he went mad, grabbed the boy by the collar and dragged him out of the classroom. Mr Harvey dragged the boy across the room, across the corridor and into a preparation room.

“He threw him to the ground and having armed himself with a 3kg dumbbell kept in there, began to hit the boy about the head. He struck him at least two blows and dealt him serious injury.

“At the time, or very shortly after, he was heard to say, ‘die! die! die!’”

Mr Harvey was said to have been kneeling over the boy raining down blows with the weight from shoulder height.

Another pupil had tried to drag the teacher away, but Mr Harvey hurled the weight at the pupil, just missing him, it was claimed.

Footage secretly filmed on a mobile phone by a female pupil captured the moment Mr Harvey lost his temper after the pupils had taunted him. He is heard shouting as pupils giggled before one said: “He’s being a bit of a psycho.”

The school’s CCTV system captured Mr Harvey dragging the boy across the corridor into a side room and later leaving the room with his fists clenched. Another teacher found the boy lying on the floor with “a gaping and heavily bleeding wound”.

Mr Rafferty added: “Whether the children that day were defiant, insolent or unco-operative, no right thinking person could think what happened to that boy was deserved or justified.”

Mr Harvey was found in the classroom in a “considerable state of stress” with his fists were clenched, his eyes narrowing and still shouting ‘die! die! die!”

He was taken to the headmaster’s office, making low howling noises and repeating, “I’ve killed the boy”.

Police arrested the teacher and he was taken to a local police station where he sat banging his head against a TV monitor.

He told officers that he could recall the boy being on the floor and striking him twice, then dropping the weight when distracted by a noise.

He said: “I felt as though I wasn’t there. It was as though I was watching television.” He admitted at that stage he thought the boy was dead.

The jury heard the teacher first became stressed two or three years earlier when he pushed a pupil who was abusing a teacher into a bush.

He told a colleague he had been “very tired for a year” and had become very negative and snappy.
 

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I remember back in high school one kid who sat in the row behind me who took delight in taunting the science teacher and acting like an ass. One day the teacher lost it and came over and grabbed the student (this was grade 9 as well) by his shirt collar and tossed him a few feet onto the floor. Next day a school assembly was called and the vice-principal said the boy's behavoir was unacceptable in taunting the teacher, and if he wanted back in the class he would have to apologize to the teacher and only if the teacher accepted the apology would he be allowed back in. As for getting tossed, he deserved it. The kid apologized and got let back in.

I've talked to teachers who say some kids drive them nuts and they wish the strap was allowed in school. Some kids intentionally provoke teachers for fun. Still, in the UK case that was crazy - if you're the teacher you can't kill the troublesome students off by bashing their brains in and leaving them for dead. Unacceptable.
 

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Reminds me of a couple of movies:
1) Blackboard Jungle
2) To Sir, With Love

A former "almost GF" turned down a promotion to teach high school because the students were too rowdy and they were bigger than her (she 5'2" 100 lbs). She stayed with her grade 3 class.
 

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Apparently the teacher has now raised the "Holocaust Survivor" defence
 

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You reap what you sow.

Ever since the nanny state has come fully into play, portraying children as perpetual victims, kids have been taking advantage and being monsters to their mentors. Let this be a cautionary tale: You respect your teachers, you don't push them, because one day, any day, they might snap and push back. I have zero sympathy for the student.
 

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You reap what you sow.

Ever since the nanny state has come fully into play, portraying children as perpetual victims, kids have been taking advantage and being monsters to their mentors. Let this be a cautionary tale: You respect your teachers, you don't push them, because one day, any day, they might snap and push back. I have zero sympathy for the student.
You're a smart one, aren't you? Did you actually READ the original news item. The kid had his head smashed in with a dumbell.

Does that mean I get to kill you for - say for example - cutting me off in traffic? Or making eyes at a girl I might be with?

I'm interested in what culture and century you actually live in? My guess is 13th Century Mongolia. You know, the time and place of Ghengiz Khan.
 

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Update: Teacher Peter Harvey found not guilty over dumbbell assault on pupil

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article7111814.ece

A teacher who beat a boy’s head with a dumbbell while shouting “die, die, die” walked free from court yesterday after being cleared of attempted murder because he was mentally unwell and had been tormented by the pupil.

In a case that raised doubts about whether there was sufficient help available for stressed teachers struggling with disruptive children, Peter Harvey, 50, was cleared after the jury deliberated for little more than an hour. He was also cleared of grievous bodily harm with intent.

The four-day case has also highlighted the problems caused by mobile-phone cameras and the possibility that children are more likely to misbehave in class if they know that they are being filmed. Only now can it be revealed that Judge Michael Stokes, QC, who welcomed the not guilty verdict as “common sense”, had questioned why the attempted murder charge had been pursued in the first place.

The science teacher admitted grievous bodily harm without intent. The 14-year-old pupil, a known troublemaker, had accepted that Harvey, who had struggled with mental problems for three years, appeared “possessed” when he snapped after the child told him to “f*** off”. The boy, part of a handful of children trying to goad the tutor as they secretly filmed him at All Saints Roman Catholic School in Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, suffered a fractured skull and bleeding to the brain.

The judge said that Harvey would not be jailed for grievous bodily harm. Instead, the teacher, who was suspended from his post and spent eight months on remand, faces a community order intended to tackle his problems.

While the boy’s family stormed out of Nottingham Crown Court as the verdicts were delivered, Harvey simply bowed his head. He later apologised for the “pain and damage” he had caused.
 

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Justifiable dumbbell attack. Not guity. He was severely provoked. Maybe this will knock some sense into that a-hole student.
 

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Does this surprise you?

I am waiting for CCTV to be installed in all classrooms with armed guards present.

2 wrongs do not make right; however, everyone has their breaking point. It would be very interesting to know exactly what the little angel did to drive this man to attack him. I wonder if the man felt threatened?

I also wonder if the young man learned anything from this?
 

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You reap what you sow.

Ever since the nanny state has come fully into play, portraying children as perpetual victims, kids have been taking advantage and being monsters to their mentors. Let this be a cautionary tale: You respect your teachers, you don't push them, because one day, any day, they might snap and push back. I have zero sympathy for the student.
Agreed!
 

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No, but teenagers can kill you because they are protected by the "Youth Some Crap" Act.

Funny how this story hits the news the after the "Sisters from Brampton" hit the news too.
 

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So there's your formula for getting away with attempted murder. Declare yourself unfit. Go on paid sick-leave holiday. Get assessed. Come back to work. Then snap at will.
 

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I had this one teacher who was emotionally unstable - she used to cry almost every day. Students would talk in class, ignoring her demands for silence - Cry. Students would lock the class room door and leave her outside - Cry. Etc etc...

Poor thing. She was a sweet little lady, just couldn`t handle her emotions.

You have a great ass!
 

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So there's your formula for getting away with attempted murder. Declare yourself unfit. Go on paid sick-leave holiday. Get assessed. Come back to work. Then snap at will.
Sounds good to me!
 

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Back in my days (the Dark Ages), the teacher would have taken that student to the woodshed and had a mano a mano talk with him. Back then we didn't have stabbings or shootings in schools like they do now. Isn't progress fantastic?

P.S. I hate that fucking C.G.A. TV commercial.
 

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Reminds me of a couple of movies:
1) Blackboard Jungle
2) To Sir, With Love

A former "almost GF" turned down a promotion to teach high school because the students were too rowdy and they were bigger than her (she 5'2" 100 lbs). She stayed with her grade 3 class.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9BQLaa8_oY 187 code for murder in L.A.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opB36bVcUMk&feature=related Dangerous Minds.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fLNSq4e2wY "Little Criminals" filmed in Toronto by the CBC tells the story of "Dez" who at the time was too young to be classified as a young offender! "Dez" died in a fire that he started. The "Homicidal Triangle" Bedwetters, Bestiality (abuse of animals) and fire setting.
 

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The great actor Sidney Portier appeared in both "The Blackboard Jungle" and "To Sir, With Love".:cool:

Lulu sang the song "To Sir, With Love".

"Those schoolgirl days, of telling tales and biting nails are gone
 

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What a pile of crap. You literally beat some little kid's head in and then you get sent home with no jail time.
 
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