Perhaps this is a bit unfair to Fuji. It is true that Fuji never gives up regardless of the merits of his position. However, Fuji does respond with facts and arguments and I think there is often merit to them. I cannot imagine Fuji ever arguing that opinions without understanding the facts of an issue are worth anything.
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Awesome. Let me give you a project and you can reveal to all Terbites just how much (or little) you know about facts and effects of policy.Perhaps this is a bit unfair to Fuji. It is true that Fuji never gives up regardless of the merits of his position. However, Fuji does respond with facts and arguments and I think there is often merit to them. I cannot imagine Fuji ever arguing that opinions without understanding the facts of an issue are worth anything.
Let's begin with some facts: A policy to welcome new immigrants into Canada.
"Canada plans to welcome between 240,000 and 265,000 new permanent residents in 2010."
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/DEPARTMENT/media/releases/2009/2009-10-30.asp
What are the effects of this policy of admitting 265k immigrants into Canada in 2010?
Answer this question any way you please but make your answer as complete as possible. This is an opportunity for our resident economist 'someone' to enlighten all Terbites.
How did I know you wouldn't be able to back up your talk.For the sake of Blackrock’s entertainment, I suppose I should respond. See the first part of post 106, posts 108 and 118.
There you have it folks - our enlightened economist someone can't answer a simple factual question regarding policy and economics.
His answer was for me to refer to this:
Post #106
Post #108If it makes you feel good to believe that, so be it. That is why I said there is no print in arguing with someone who already knows what they want to believe. You have proved my point.
Post #118Whatever. You know what you want to believe. I’ll try not to confuse you with anymore facts.
Pathetic.As I said before, believe whatever makes you feel good. I promise not to try to confuse you with anymore facts.
You've been exposed Mr. Economist.For my response, see post 128.
Repetition of nonsense is your only defense.
Don't defer any longer Mr Ecomonist!
Let me give you a project and you can reveal to all Terbites just how much (or little) you know about facts and effects of policy.
Let's begin with some facts: A policy to welcome new immigrants into Canada.
"Canada plans to welcome between 240,000 and 265,000 new permanent residents in 2010."
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/DEPARTMENT/media/releases/2009/2009-10-30.asp
What are the effects of this policy of admitting 265k immigrants into Canada in 2010?
Answer this question any way you please but make your answer as complete as possible. This is an opportunity for our resident economist 'someone' to enlighten all Terbites.
Let me give you a project and you can reveal to all Terbites just how much (or little) you know about facts and effects of policy.
Let's begin with some facts: A policy to welcome new immigrants into Canada.
"Canada plans to welcome between 240,000 and 265,000 new permanent residents in 2010."
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/DEPARTMENT/media/releases/2009/2009-10-30.asp
What are the effects of this policy of admitting 265k immigrants into Canada in 2010?
Answer this question any way you please but make your answer as complete as possible. This is an opportunity for our resident economist 'someone' to enlighten all Terbites.
It isn't astrophysics!
Let me give you a project and you can reveal to all Terbites just how much (or little) you know about facts and effects of policy.
Let's begin with some facts: A policy to welcome new immigrants into Canada.
"Canada plans to welcome between 240,000 and 265,000 new permanent residents in 2010."
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/DEPARTMENT/media/releases/2009/2009-10-30.asp
What are the effects of this policy of admitting 265k immigrants into Canada in 2010?
Answer this question any way you please but make your answer as complete as possible. This is an opportunity for our resident economist 'someone' to enlighten all Terbites.
Let me give you a project and you can reveal to all Terbites just how much (or little) you know about facts and effects of policy.
Let's begin with some facts: A policy to welcome new immigrants into Canada.
"Canada plans to welcome between 240,000 and 265,000 new permanent residents in 2010."
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/DEPARTMENT/media/releases/2009/2009-10-30.asp
What are the effects of this policy of admitting 265k immigrants into Canada in 2010?
Answer this question any way you please but make your answer as complete as possible. This is an opportunity for our resident economist 'someone' to enlighten all Terbites.
You really seem to have a lot at stake in pushing anti immigration views on us. But I commend you on bringing facts into the discussion.Awesome. Let me give you a project and you can reveal to all Terbites just how much (or little) you know about facts and effects of policy.
Let's begin with some facts: A policy to welcome new immigrants into Canada.
"Canada plans to welcome between 240,000 and 265,000 new permanent residents in 2010."
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/DEPARTMENT/media/releases/2009/2009-10-30.asp
What are the effects of this policy of admitting 265k immigrants into Canada in 2010?
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Please explain why my beliefs are completely retarded
I find the tone of your original post is really scare mongering. A favourite strategy of the neo-cons in the USA and Canada. But I do see a link in some of the issues you have brought up.<edit>
2) I foresee continue unabated 3rd world immigration (Asian, India, EE) to 1st world nations and bringing with them lots of cultural baggage (honor killings, Allah Akbar etc, you name it). We will live in a vast sea of multiculturalism where we don't speak the same language as our neighbors or go to the same banks because there is no English on the entrance signs. How does this make us stronger or better?
3) Individual and national debts are out of control, and programs that can never be paid for (e.g. Health Care) are coming to a head. Few people are going to enjoy any sort of retirement like grandpa did. People who are broke as fuck are still running around buying the latest $300 electronic gadgets. Where will these people be when they get old?
4) Culturally, we're at a crossroads. Everywhere I look, I see people who have no understanding of history or sense of self - they don't appreciate how priviledged they are and why. They have no direction and squander much of what this great society offers them. These types of people often believe that liberalism is the antidote to all of society's ills when much of what ails society has been the destruction and de-construction of conversvatism.
1.) Approximately 250,000 new permanent residents for Canada in 2010. I am not alarmed by this. I think your reaction to it is way over the top (see your #2 above). Honour killings are very rare and something that the vast majority of these new permanent residents are opposed to. I think there is strength in diversity, so to answer your question, I think it makes us stronger. I don't see a "vast sea of multiculturalism" nor am I threatened with the thought of neighbours who haven't learned English immediately. You make it sound like Chinatown is expanding its borders and threatens to take over the GTA. The majority in the "vast sea" will learn English and 100% of their children will learn English or French.
2.) National debt is not out of control. On the contrary, it is at a much lower rate of our GDP than its been for a long time. That is one reason our $ is doing so well relative to the US$. Individual debt, well, its high, but not out of control either. Do you have any stats that compares individual debt of permanent residents with that of Canadian citizens? I bet it a lot lower for permanent residents. So more permanent residents would actually help individual debt, right? I do think that as a society we overconsume. At least we can agree on that. I hope you aren't trying to blame the immigrants for that.
3.) In #4 above, you complain that people have no appreciation for how priveleged they are. The many immigrants I know do have a very good appreciation for the privilege Canadians enjoy. Wow! Can all your perceived problems be solved by increased immigration?
4.) Our society has a very low birth rate. There is a demographic bulge in our population that is often referred to as the baby boomers. We are now approaching retirement. Thanks to the hard work of immigrants, there may yet be some kind of a pension plan in the future. The same is true of health care. Our aging population is going to need more health care. We need more young and productive people support this bulge as we age.
That's the way I see it, anyway.
No need. He's doing just fine.blackrock13 is welcome to answer on your behalf if you want to save face.
Sorry Blackrock, I ment that response for the other poster.See post 132 for my response.
They say that the Devil is in the details. Indeed. Indeed...
In case you missed it:
Let me give you a project and you can reveal to all Terbites just how much (or little) you know about facts and effects of policy.
Let's begin with some facts: A policy to welcome new immigrants into Canada.
"Canada plans to welcome between 240,000 and 265,000 new permanent residents in 2010."
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/DEPARTMENT/media/releases/2009/2009-10-30.asp
What are the effects of this policy of admitting 265k immigrants into Canada in 2010?
Answer this question any way you please but make your answer as complete as possible. This is an opportunity for our resident economist 'someone' to enlighten all Terbites.
In case you missed it:
Let me give you a project and you can reveal to all Terbites just how much (or little) you know about facts and effects of policy.
Let's begin with some facts: A policy to welcome new immigrants into Canada.
"Canada plans to welcome between 240,000 and 265,000 new permanent residents in 2010."
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/DEPARTMENT/media/releases/2009/2009-10-30.asp
What are the effects of this policy of admitting 265k immigrants into Canada in 2010?
Answer this question any way you please but make your answer as complete as possible. This is an opportunity for our resident economist 'someone' to enlighten all Terbites.
