why do non-chinese people get chinese characters tattooed on them?
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In my younger years, there is no way I would have ever said these things. But I'm a little older, and look around and I see Canada de-evolving, especially in regards to racism. I think the younger generation is becoming increasingly racist, I think CTV globemedia, and their affiliates (i.e. MTV.ca, MUCH, etc.) promote racist programming, alienating everyone else, while promoting a played out Ambecrombie and Fitch emo pretentious stereotype, importing all their bullshit shows from the US, picking and choosing, rather than focusing on Canadian diversity, and this is getting eaten up by young kids who appear to be less tolerant of persons of color.Sounds like someone really did a number on you Winstar...
Simultaneously, Not only have I been around long enough to know the difference between when I am treated differently because of race, versus treated fairly (i.e. in academics, employment, dating etc.), but more importantly know when the change occurred.
Frankly it happened after 9/11. I am West Indian, but nobody would be able to make that distinction. I don't talk with an accent, and was born and raised here. Before that day, I was treated very nicely by Canadians, and the sky was the limit. Afterwards, I was treated (and still am) as a terrorist. I was born and raised here, and I didn't spend more than thirty years here, just to be reduced to and treated and identified as a terrorist. In comparison, I thought Americans would have treated me more harshly, but that hasn't been my experience. In comparable multicultural cities (such as LA, Miami, Boston etc.), I was treated very well. Hell, even in New York, where the attacks took place, the people were nicer to me. I live in Toronto, and people won't even sit next to me on the subway or bus, and I can't tell you how tired I am of seeing that look on their face of either 1) I probably smell like curry, or 2) Am a terrorist or one of my relatives are. When the country that was attacked treats me better than the country I was born in, something is very wrong.
I feel embarrassed, let down, and betrayed by the people who I never thought would ever treat me this way. There is no going back. After having white people in particular try to pick fights with me, body check me, stare me down, and abuse me because I am Brown, and they think that everyone Brown is a terrorist, I have grown so tired and weary of it. It isn't right. It's been close to ten years, and at the end of the day, in this country all it seems I am is a terrorist. Despite that fact that I invested so much of my time and life here.
Yes, someone pulled a number on me...it was the Canadian people. I am embarrassed and ashamed the way Canadians have acted in response to the way they treated their own Brown born and raised as a result of 9/11. I never thought Canadians would be capable of such utter ignorance and stupidity, but that isn't the case, and we can't go back ten years and erase that impression. 9/11 didn't just destroy a few towers in New York. It eroded our society. I remember that day well. I was crying when I saw the towers fall, to know that someone could cause such pain to people who didn't deserve it. I am crying now as I write this, and at the end of the day all I am seen by Canadians (more so by white Canadians that anyone else, and even by Canadians younger than me, who haven't been on this planet, or in Canada for that matter, longer than me.), is that I am a curry-eating terrorist
I find it hard to date here now, (before that was never the case) ergo, being on TERB. I find it hard to make friends or be included in anything and that wasn't the case pre 9/11, to find a job, to progress in any meaningful way in our society. When Canada won the Hockey game, I didn't feel joy or a sense of connection (which I should have), but felt alienated and disconnected, because at the end of the day, all I am is a terrorist in the eyes of Canadians, because I am Brown. I know I am not the only Brown person who has noticed this or feels this way. That completely devalues me as a human being and I am tired of it. How would you feel if you were here for more than thirty years, born and raised, and something happens, and the way your community perceives you is nothing more than a terrorist, because of the colour of your skin? You would probably feel betrayed and let down, and feel like the country and city has de-evolved in regards to racism, by about 60 years.
I want to leave, and plan to do so soon. After experiencing this, I no longer have the trust in the Canadians I thought I loved. What does this have to do with tattoos? Nothing, but yes Cycleguy007, you're right, someone really did a number on me. Now what I have written, is congruent in regards to how critical I am of Canadians and their behaviors, and people who do read my posts, will have an idea of why my perspective is the way it is.
I don't see any healing occurring in our society until Canadians, specifically White Canadians, stop blaming their Canadian born and raised for 9/11, It is too large of a burden for me or anyone else from these communities to carry, and is wrong and simply unfair. Until White Canadians start making noticeable changes in the way they behave towards Brown people, stop putting them down, reducing them to stupid stereotypes such as cab drivers, or convenience store clerks, and start to include them in sharing their experiences, parties, homes etc, we are never going to move forward. It's been ten years, and is this the best we can do? Our country just like the States needs to heal, and I don't know when or if that will ever happen. I don't want to spend another ten years here hoping that it will. I need to go someplace where the people understand this already, and it is isn't here.
Then again, Iran, Somalia, Congo, Zimbabwe, Haiti aren't necessarily my first choices if I do move, and there's no reason to move to places worse than Canada, Why would I do that? If I move, it will be somewhere better than Canada. I don't know many places but from the few that I do know, there are many places that are better and more socially aware and sensitive than here, including New York city. They are taking the steps to heal, and it's apparent, and speaks volumes to me about their character of spirit in regards to 9/11. If they can do it, why it is so hard for us to do it? I think the hearts here in Toronto have grown colder to Brown people, while New Yorker's hearts have grown warmer, and have really made a noticeable effort not to alienate their Brown communities. And it didn't take me long to notice that difference because it was apparent and like night and day. What does that say about Canada and Canadians?
I'm kidding about not posting beside you. We're ALL minorities here in Canada. We just have to make sure no one looks down on anyone else; and Toronto should embrace it's diversity as you say by showing more ethnic programs etc...
I recall during the Olympics, that "VisitBC.com" commerical was sooooo Anglo. It made me sick.
There was MJFox, Sex in the city Catral, and few others...all...you guessed it...Anglos....I thought Vacouver had a lot of Indians and Asians. Heck, I thought the capital of BC was Hongcouver!
As for your main argument. I think Canada is much better than it was as early/late as the 90s when TO was so Anglo....but now there's tonnes of Asians, South Asians, Russians, Persians.
I recall during the Olympics, that "VisitBC.com" commerical was sooooo Anglo. It made me sick.
There was MJFox, Sex in the city Catral, and few others...all...you guessed it...Anglos....I thought Vacouver had a lot of Indians and Asians. Heck, I thought the capital of BC was Hongcouver!
As for your main argument. I think Canada is much better than it was as early/late as the 90s when TO was so Anglo....but now there's tonnes of Asians, South Asians, Russians, Persians.
I'd have to agree... (BTW- she is Brazilian... is THAT OK?)
Hmmm, there seems to be a reoccurring theme here as well... **insert rasp berry smiley here**
Oh... and Oracle- I found one with a lil landing strip just for you! **insert thumbs up smiley here**
The whole Olympic broadcasting pissed me off. There's tonnes of visible minorities on CTV but not one was on the Olympic team. Closest we got was Nick Kypreos and he's whiter than snow, the day after a storm. Winstar don't give up on Canada - just read on thestar.com that 20-something chicks are scankier than ever!
Wholly f**k who cares. In Japan I saw people wearing clothing with all sorts of mangled English phrases. It was amusing, otherwise I didn't care. One kid had something tattooed on each cheek. Made no sense. It was a fashion statement. whoop-dee-do.
Hey Winstar, I truly wish you the best of luck in your search for a happier home, whether it be here or elsewhere. We all deserve to be happy.
BTW: I use to travel to NYC a lot and still have many friends there. Trust me there are tensions there as well. For example, just read up on Bensonhurst and Harlem.
You're just lucky to meet a handful of white women who could speak Mandarin Chinese. There are way more white men who could speak the language like the locals than the white women.
BTW, did you ask her whether she date any Chinese dude, be CBC or FOB? I wouldn't be surprised whatsoever if there's an uncomfortable silence for few minutes and then she gave PC answer....like she didn't care his color.
Unless she's Kevin Rudd's daughter type....
Sure but what I did recall is the overwhelming majority of the expat (White) kids took French, Spanish, Portuguese, even Italian and German as second language. Learning any oriental languages, Chinese in particular in that region is not a priority since a) many locals would try to communicate in English no matter what b) it's a big challenge for them to master those languages (writing and speaking) like the locals and c) they left the host countries once they finished Grade 12 and most never went back after college.
Maybe things change dramatically since China acts like the "real" superpower....not!
OTOH, the children of the missionaries have all the motivation to master the language like the locals since they want to convert as many locals as possible to be Christians. A number of those white ladies are very, very attractive but too bad I do not date those Christians for obvious reason.
No, it just sounds like he is a bit down on his luck when it comes to the white girls. Maybe was really interested in a white girl once but got shot down, or lost out to a white guy, and is bitter about it.Sounds like someone really did a number on you Winstar...
You forgot to include equal number of "yellow" men who would do the same thing to be able to live in Canada.
That makes a total of 1.2 Billion "yellow" and "brown" men who are really "interested" in white women...and I am not including the ME brothers.
Because they are stupid idiots. At least put a poem or a sentence so there is a story or meaning into it. Most of the time they have one or two characters and usually it's some stupid thing. I've seen this black bouncer dude have a tattoo on his neck, he probably thought it meant "soldier", but it was really "pawn". It was the character that you see for pawn on chinese chess. Also the same one you see when Jet Li kicks those soldiers asses. I could not help but laugh, but obviously when he was not looking...lol. I've also read a story about some guy getting the tattoo which he meant was cool but later found out it meant PMS. LOL. It's better not to have a tattoo. For women it's ok, but it's consider a tramp stamp now.
Thank you Rockslinger, I appreciate you saying that
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LMAFO!
I'm usually the guy white girls approach who want me to fuck them behind their white boyfriend's back. But believe it or not, I have never participated, because I believe what goes around comes around, I don't like being the cause of someone else's grief, especially in relationships, and at the end of the day, I don't want to be their exotic/ethnic plaything they accessorize their life with every once and a while.
I don't find it difficult to date girls in Canada in particular, in the sense of their interest, but I do find that they don't often bring me home to mom and dad either, and try and keep things on the downlow. This I don't like so much, but most of the time it's because their families are not as open-minded as they are, and it's hard to negotiate through that for both parties.
But by comparison, I do find it easier to date in other countries. It is only because I have experienced this distinction that I know how better it is elsewhere. The girls also tend to be nicer, genuine, honest and eager to please, and they don't treat you like you're disposable. They are really very genuinely happy to meet you, and you can see it on their faces. They're happy to be in your company, and appreciate sharing it with you, and nothing of this detracts from their femininity, or desire to be a strong woman. It's just that they don't carry all the negative baggage, sense of entitlement, or general negativity that Toronto girls seem to. As I have said many many times before, Montreal/French Canadian girls are amazing.
But I have noticed socially, things have deteriorated here from me, and I know it's because 9/11. I feel that I have been reduced to a terrorist stereotype, while the places outside of Canada I have been to make the effort to let me know that this isn't the case. I appreciate their effort, and at the same time it saddens me that the place I have called home for over thirty years has behaved this way. It's wrong to criminalize Canada's Brown community and reduce them to a terrorist stereotype. Our parents moved here for a hope of a better place, a place they trust to raise their kids in. The kids who were born here (like me) have always loved Canada. Except now, as I have grown up, and noticed the impact that 9/11 had on my personal life, in terms of the way I am treated and perceived here in Canada, put into context with the way I was treated in New York and various other areas throughout the States, and I know what's going on here is unacceptable.
Does anyone remember what Canadians did to Japanese-Canadian families during World War II? Canada put them into concentration camps. That is not the way to treat your citizens. I haven't read the Charter of Rights and Freedoms recently, but I am sure it doesn't say if you are Canadian you are entitled to the same freedoms as everyone else, unless you look like you belong to a race associated with terrorism, after which you will be treated like a terrorist. It is such a let down to have experienced this, and at the end of the day, regardless of the actual social inequities that occur normally in this country as a result of race, this type of treatment and behavior is unacceptable to me.
