What Can Israel Teach the U.S. About Airport Security?
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In the west, we refuse to do ethnic profiling in spite of the obvious fact that nearly all acts of terrorism are committed by one religion. Israel acknowledges the obvious and scrutinizes Arab/Muslim passengers differently. Also, while we are more concerned about scanning baggage, Israel is more concerned about people, looking for suspicious behavior.
It comes down to deciding which is more important, people’s lives or our liberal sensibilities.
It comes down to deciding which is more important, people’s lives or our liberal sensibilities.
ok so you profile and pull aside Arabs but what happens when a black guy from Nigeria gets on with a bomb? or is that too much of a complicated thought process for you to work through?
So what if they succeeded in making airports completely safe? Then wouldn't terrorists just attack other transit systems, hospitals, or schools?
The best security in the world hasn't bought Israel peace of mind and security of mind in their own country.
Lasting solutions lie elsewhere.
The best security in the world hasn't bought Israel peace of mind and security of mind in their own country.
Lasting solutions lie elsewhere.
The other way around. Israel could learn a thing or two from the PRC.Still, the mainland Han Chinese could learn a thing or two from Israel and IDF in particular when they try to control Xinjiang and Tibet by figuring out what works and doesn't work in the West Bank, Gaza Strips and the Golan Heights.
The Chinese strategy has been a combination of a carrot and a stick:
1. Carrot, invest billions in the Tibetan economy, create jobs for everyone, provide them a better life than they had
2. Stick, crack down HARD on anybody who complains
In the West Bank and Gaza Israel has done much, much less in terms of providing the good life. In fact, Israel has taken punitive steps designed to make the good life hard to obtain until the P's go along with whatever demand is being made.
There's a reason why you don't hear about Tibetan terrorists, probably 90% of them are happy, and the other 10% are in jail.
The Israelis cannot provide the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza with the good life, because along with it they would have to provide citizenship. Ever wonder why they annexed the Golan Heights, tried to force down the throats of the Arab Druze the idea of Israeli citizenship but never did the same to the West Bank and Gaza. Because it would mean the end of the "Jewish state". The Han Chinese never have to worry about this problem, in fact its the other way around with them assimilating the Tibetans.
The best security in the world was not intended to bring peace it was intended to prevent skyjacking and bombing of airplanes and it has met that objective. Every and I mean every person boarding flight in or out of Israel and all internal flights is personally screened regardless of the religion or ethnic background.
Peace will only come to Israel when it has a partner in the negotiations which is prepared to recognize its existence. Until then the best they can hope for unfortunately is to control their security and the level of violence etc. A very sad situation and one that will hopefully change.
you forgot to throw in the required comments about Auschwitz and Treblinka, sorry only part marks for you
So, what are these lasting solutions? Let's be frank here, almost every country that has Muslims, and some that don't, have problems. It is not just the West, ask the PRC, Russia, Phillipines and India for example. Even some Muslim countries have problems as well. Muslims were killing Muslims in Afghany (same in Iraq, Pakistan, Iran, etc.) before NATO arrived.
Thank you for that insightful comment. You should be very proud.you forgot to throw in the required comments about Auschwitz and Treblinka, sorry only part marks for you
Unfortunately your post consists mainly of thumb-sucking and is scant on facts.
Let me help you because I think you must have either just climbed out of a hole or just fallen off of the turnip truck.
The PLO recognized Israel's existence in the Oslo Accords on August 23 1993. That's 17 years ago Rip Van Winkle.
And if you believe there is any kind of equality in application of screening at Israeli airports you are one naive little bunny.
Thank you. Now that you have managed to dig up something from the archive which has been repudiated by Hamas and watered down to the point of non-existence by Fatah please give me some more recent evidence of the recognition.
As far as screening goes I have been to Israel many times and flown within the country many times and i have observed it on each occasion including as the subject of such screening on each and every occasion.
Or it might have something to do with the religious Buddhist attitude of the most Tibetans and their leader who espouses peace, even when others are attacking you.
how about the Palestinians do they have a right to recognition of a state of their own? or do they simply have to bow down and take the beating and humiliation that the Israelis have bestowed upon them the last 60 plus years? you want to talk about a peace partner, lets talk about Lieberman an extreme right wing racist, welfare settler loving lunatic, yeah there is a real negotiator.
ahem.. you mean create jobs and incentive for the millions of Han Chinese to immigrate to Tibet and make it more Han Chinese and overwhelm the Tibetan culture.
Actually that does sound a lot like Israel.
Where have you been. The Israelis have been trying to negotiate a peace which would involve the Palestinians having a state of their own for 20 years. What beating and humiliation are you talking about. Israel has no presnce in Gaza and the West Bank is for tjhe most part autonomous. There is disputed territory which Israel has always said it was prepared to negotiate. the humiliation which the Palestinians have suffered is as a result of their Arab neighbors keeping them in the refugee camps and the corruption within the PLO and Fatah. the Palestinians receive more aid on a per capita basis than any other group in history, most of which unfortunately winds up in the hands of the leaders. How did Arafat manage to accumulate several hundred million dollars while his people were suffering the humiliation you are speaking of.
That's an easy answer. Israel gave him the money through a secret bank account they held for him at Bank Leumi. All the time they were telling the world he was a terrorist, they were secretly financing him.
Looks like your side's been playing you for a sucker.
http://www.israelfaxx.com/webarchive/1997/04/7fax0404.html
Or to phrase it another way: While in Chairman Arafat's name Palestinian agents were murdering people around the world, and while Chairman Arafat was refusing to accept the right to exist of the State of Israel, he was accepting money from them.
Who was really the sucker?
Well, even you are entitled to a history lesson. Arafat did accept the right of Israel to exist (I must confess how funny it is when the Trained Seals use the phrase "the State of Israel", as if you yourselves don't really think it's a country and need to reinforce the message) in the Oslo Accords. The text is available everywhere.
Some of the biggest suckers (and quite sadly I might add) are the Israeli's who were killed by the money their own government funnelled to the leader of an organization engaged in a battle against them. Although, it was probably in the best interest of the ruling zionists to have dead Israeli's to parade in front of the world.
