I got denied by the U.S. Customs..Any help?

tboy

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Wow, relax Bro, you're the one with the criminal record......... If you check,both Canada & the US will have similar restrictions with respect to allowing entyr of persons with a previous criminal record.
You were just lucky in the past, but it has now caught up with you.
Face up to it, and get it sorted out.
What YOU said dude....the audacity of bitching about another country not changing it's rules to suit an individual from another country.....one with a criminal record no less!!!

To the OP: guess you shouldn't have broken the law back in '97 then eh?

There is an organization called amesty international or something that can purge your record so you can travel again.

BTW: I have to ask: was this crime in '97 committed in the US? If so, you're fucked. YOu won't be getting back in there......
 

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Something doesn't add up here. Did you have your lawyer ask for your fingerprints and photos to be purged? A non-conviction charge from 35 years ago should not be showing up. Had the US found out about this previously? It's possible they downloaded it into their system before the charge was removed from the CPIC database. But a non-conviction charge should not show on the system.

It also sounds like he was fishing and you were being coy so he knew something was up. Did you actually see the printout with your charge on it?
Actually, this last part makes sense...you have to remember they're trained to notice things like someone being evasive.....
 

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Honestly I hate crossing the US border. It is such a PITA even for someone with a 100% clean record like me. I just do not feel welcome in that country by the border services. My next trip I booked a flight specifically to not services the US. I can understand being given the third degree if I was actually STAYING in the US, but if you are just connecting, WTF.. just keep me in a secure area while I get to my next flight.
 

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Honestly I hate crossing the US border. It is such a PITA even for someone with a 100% clean record like me. I just do not feel welcome in that country by the border services. My next trip I booked a flight specifically to not services the US. I can understand being given the third degree if I was actually STAYING in the US, but if you are just connecting, WTF.. just keep me in a secure area while I get to my next flight.
and yu would be the first one to bitch about being put into a cell
 

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Honestly I hate crossing the US border. It is such a PITA even for someone with a 100% clean record like me. I just do not feel welcome in that country by the border services. My next trip I booked a flight specifically to not services the US. I can understand being given the third degree if I was actually STAYING in the US, but if you are just connecting, WTF.. just keep me in a secure area while I get to my next flight.
Well, their job ISN'T to make you feel welcome, their job is to stop undesireables from entering their country. Unlike here where we welcome anyone, even those with terrorist connections.....
 

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I have no first-hand experience, but a friend of mine lives in the US, and every time her brother wanted to visit he had to apply to US authorities several months in advance, declaring his criminal record for weapons-related offences.

He was able to enter the US, but could never do so on a whim.
 

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I have no first-hand experience, but a friend of mine lives in the US, and every time her brother wanted to visit he had to apply to US authorities several months in advance, declaring his criminal record for weapons-related offences.

He was able to enter the US, but could never do so on a whim.
No offence but can you blame them? Weapons offences? he's lucky he gets in at all......
 

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No offence but can you blame them? Weapons offences? he's lucky he gets in at all......
I suspect he is freaking because his wife did not know about his criminal past and now his China trip is in question. My guess he already paid for it.
 

The Fruity Hare

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I suspect he is freaking because his wife did not know about his criminal past and now his China trip is in question. My guess he already paid for it.
Looks like you are mixing two different stories together. Although they are similar, tboy was quoting another situation.
 

The Fruity Hare

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To the OP: guess you shouldn't have broken the law back in '97 then eh?

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Something for you to also keep in mind. If I remember correctly, you were the one who wanted to teach someone a lesson for grabbing a spouse's ass. That's often how these things start.

A punch can quickly lead to an escalation of the situation, and these are the repercussions you face later as a result.

It's good advice to give, but also to take.
 

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Whynot888 if USCBP did not provide you with forms or links here are two:

Information on Criminal Ineligibility
http://www.consular.canada.usembassy.gov/criminal_ineligibility_visa.asp

Form I-212 Application for Permission to Reapply for Admission Into the United States After Deportation or Removal
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/us...nnel=db029c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD



Also, as mentioned before by Keebler Elf in #16 speak with a Lawyer who deals with U.S. Immigration Law before filling out the forms.
 

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In terms of the US, you're pretty much fucked. Why didn't you get a pardon???

Now the US has you on their system and they will never take you off, even if you get a pardon (they say they don't recognize pardons). Even if you get wiped off the Canadian system, the US has now downloaded it into their system where it will stay forever. You're now red flagged and can expect to be stopped every time you try and enter. Be aware, it's a criminal offense NOT to declare your criminal record when entering the US. The first time you were able to say you didn't know but now they have it on their system that you've been caught and next time they won't be so lenient. Now they will say you're trying to "sneak" into the US without declaring your criminal record.

You should apply for a Canadian pardon and then apply for a US waiver. At least you can say to the US that you've obtained a Canadian pardon (which means you've been "clean" for, IIRC, the past 5 years).

You're likely going to have a tough time with the US because you have an assault conviction. You could be denied a waiver based on that. Without a waiver you are ineligible for entry into the US. They will likely flat out deny you entry. The waiver is the process by which you get an exemption from the bar. People with criminal records are automatically barred from entry to the US unless you have a waiver. If you keep "sneaking" in, you'll get caught and they may give you a permanent ban (i.e., no waivers for you).

The best advice I can give you is to go speak with an immigration lawyer PRONTO. You'll get better info and a path forward from them.
Keebler is 100% on the money with this post and every post he has made on this topic

I am speaking from experience as I have been in the same situation as you.
 

The Fruity Hare

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From the above I believe Papa got it right.
tboy was quoting Anymn who was relating a situation that involved someone other than the OP.

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Originally Posted by Anynym
I have no first-hand experience, but a friend of mine lives in the US, and every time her brother wanted to visit he had to apply to US authorities several months in advance, declaring his criminal record for weapons-related offences.

He was able to enter the US, but could never do so on a whim.

No offence but can you blame them? Weapons offences? he's lucky he gets in at all......
 

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Well, their job ISN'T to make you feel welcome, their job is to stop undesireables from entering their country. Unlike here where we welcome anyone, even those with terrorist connections.....
I have traveled to many places, the attitude in the US is not the best, the lines are really long. There are ways to do it better. And it is even worse if you are not Canadian and have to be finger printed. Much rather bypass it if I have the option and many, many people I know feel the same way. Unless it is MUCH cheaper, I choose to not take the US connection.
 

nottyboi

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and yu would be the first one to bitch about being put into a cell
So how would you react to being jailed? I suppose you would be happy about? I suppose you feel at home in a jail cell. That says a lot about you. :p
 

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I have traveled to many places, the attitude in the US is not the best, the lines are really long. There are ways to do it better. And it is even worse if you are not Canadian and have to be finger printed. Much rather bypass it if I have the option and many, many people I know feel the same way. Unless it is MUCH cheaper, I choose to not take the US connection.
Good for you, explain the better ways Mr Security Expert or STFU.
 

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So how would you react to being jailed? I suppose you would be happy about? I suppose you feel at home in a jail cell. That says a lot about you. :p

If I demanded to be placed in a holding area rather than go through customs I would expect it would be a cell.

My advice is when is a foreign country follow their rules and requests
 
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