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WhaWhaWha

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Between a rock and a hard place
Have not had a cold in more than 14 months. Finallylistened to the family. Got my first ever flu shot Friday Night. Raging cold since Saturday night. coincidence?
 

blackrock13

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Have not had a cold in more than 14 months. Finallylistened to the family. Got my first ever flu shot Friday Night. Raging cold since Saturday night. coincidence?
Yes, you may simply be having a reaction to the shot. Please define raging?
 
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If your cold doesn't get better in a couple days, best to see your doctor. It's a typical side-effect of flu vaccinations, your immune system should start sorting it out after 48-72 hrs if not see your md.
 

alexmst

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The shot requires your immune system to drop everything else and concentrate on sorting out the shot. Thus if it was fighting off a pre-cold (that is, you didn't feel sick because the immune system had the upper hand and you weren't comming down with it pre-shot) and you get the shot, you will get sick.

Anyway, my opinion on flu shots is don't get them. Thus spoke Zarathusrtra.
 

blackrock13

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The shot requires your immune system to drop everything else and concentrate on sorting out the shot. Thus if it was fighting off a pre-cold (that is, you didn't feel sick because the immune system had the upper hand and you weren't comming down with it pre-shot) and you get the shot, you will get sick.

Anyway, my opinion on flu shots is don't get them. Thus spoke Zarathusrtra.
What wall did you read this on? It's nonsense. Your immune system doesn't prioritize infections, although it may give some importance to main organs, but a systematic infection like the flu will not give rise to that. It tries to fight whatever comes down the pipe. Yes, it can get overwhelmed but that's it.
 

blackrock13

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happened the one time I got a flu-shot as well years ago. Haven't bothered getting another one since.
If you've never had a flu shot the chances are you will get a reaction. Duh!! There's no antibodies in your system even close to resembling what's been introduced by the injection and your bodies' going to hit it with full guns blaring.


I'm at the other end of the spectrum and because of the variety of injections I get, for reason already explained, I've been able to live/work relatively unaffected by things that cause large numbers of people to get really sick or worse.
 

Rockslinger

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I'm at the other end of the spectrum and because of the variety of injections I get, for reason already explained, I've been able to live/work relatively unaffected by things that cause large numbers of people to get really sick or worse.
One of my co-workers is a heavy smoker and she never gets sick. Her immune system must be bulletproof by now.
 

The Fruity Hare

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Got mine on Wednesday, had a little bit of muscle ache for a few days and that's it. I hadn't even planned to get it, was in the Dr.s office for another reason when he asked if I wanted it. He suggested i get the seasonal shot in December.
 

Rockslinger

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Got mine on Wednesday, had a little bit of muscle ache for a few days and that's it. I hadn't even planned to get it, was in the Dr.s office for another reason when he asked if I wanted it. He suggested i get the seasonal shot in December.
Did you get the H1N1 last Wednesday? Are you going back in December for the seasonal? Isn't that overkill?
 

blackrock13

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One of my co-workers is a heavy smoker and she never gets sick. Her immune system must be bulletproof by now.
..... but there's no way her lungs are normal for her age. They probably look like blue or swiss cheese The chances are she'll have a basic system breakdown and die quickly.
 

blackrock13

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Did you get the H1N1 last Wednesday? Are you going back in December for the seasonal? Isn't that overkill?
That's two different shots to handle two different situations, a relative new infection (H1N1) and a select group of seasonal reoccurring infections (whatever they've chosen for this season).
 

The Fruity Hare

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Did you get the H1N1 last Wednesday? Are you going back in December for the seasonal? Isn't that overkill?
I am in a high risk group, so the H1N1 was recommended now, and the regular flu shot apparently is scheduled for December. They are for two different viruses, so it doesn't appear to be overkill in this case.

Last winter I had the seasonal shot and pnumonia at the same type. My work environment is full of sick people, so I am better off to have whatever is available as a precaution.
 

blackrock13

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seasonal flu shots don't work
You of course, base this observation on many years of research and field study or are you just one of those conspiracy supporters. Is it just the flu shot that a waste of time or do you feel the same about all inoculations?
 

alexmst

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What wall did you read this on? It's nonsense. Your immune system doesn't prioritize infections, although it may give some importance to main organs, but a systematic infection like the flu will not give rise to that. It tries to fight whatever comes down the pipe. Yes, it can get overwhelmed but that's it.

This is what I meant:

"All vaccines put a particular germ (or a part of a germ) into the body, with the goal of stimulating the immune system to recognize it. That recognition allows the immune system to vigorously and promptly attack the germ if it ever enters your body in the future.

If your immune system is busy fighting a major war against, for example, a bacterial infection of your throat (like "strep throat") or your ears at the time you get a vaccination, your immune system may be distracted by the war it is waging, and not recognize the flu vaccine. It is better to wait until the immune system is finished fighting, and has the time and energy to recognize the flu vaccine. That way you increase the chance of the flu shot protecting you against the virus during the flu season."


Anthony Komaroff, M.D., is professor of medicine and editor-in-chief of Harvard Health Publications at Harvard Medical School. Dr. Komaroff also is senior physician and was formerly director of the Division of General Medicine at Brigham and Women's Hospital. Dr. Komaroff has served on various advisory committees to the federal government, and is an elected Fellow of the American Association for the Advancement of Science

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Anyway, I personally don't believe in getting flu shots unless one works in an environment where one is constantly around sick people all day. It is an individual decision and people are free to do as they wish.

My doctor told me a few years ago that if you have any cold, even a whiff of one, that you shouldn't get a seasonal flu shot as you more than likely will catch a cold after getting the shot. I have since your post researched this a bit and find differing online medical opinions as to the validity of this advice. Some soucres agree, many do not. The above quoted example was of the opinion that a mild cold is no reason to avoid a shot, but a more serious seasonal sickness is good reason not to get it. My doctor said he wouldn't give a flu shot to any patient of his who was exhibiting any symptoms of having a cold as he believed they would get worse.
 
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