Sex workers legal for the handicapped

Big Rig

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I heard that the government pays sex workers to do the handicapped


Is this true :confused:

How is it legal


Are they nurses
 

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Now that is a health care benefit.
 

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I heard that the government pays sex workers to do the handicapped


Is this true :confused:

How is it legal


Are they nurses
Not in this country.... sweden maybe. But not in canada.

Unless its a disabled gov't official, then its a necessary tax write off.

Cheers!
 

Big Rig

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I've never heard of this, and I have a few regular clients who are disabled.
Then your opinion should be rather strong


There should be such benefits WTF a whole life with no sex

What a cruel and inhumane government policy

Your clientèle are the lucky ones as they got money, even though they have to break the law

A lot of these handicapped live in poverty as they have no capabilities to earn income

My neighbor is legally blind and in a wheelchair and she has no money to join Variety Village which is a gym for the disabled :(

I suppose massages are covered, which may be the only close human contact they ever get outside of their Parents if they have not abandoned them

I like to think some nice RMT will stretch the rules and give a penis massage
 

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Then your opinion should be rather strong


There should be such benefits WTF a whole life with no sex

What a cruel and inhumane government policy

Your clientèle are the lucky ones as they got money, even though they have to break the law

A lot of these poor people live in poverty

My neighbor is legally blind and in a wheelchair and she has no money to join Variety Village which is a gym for the disabled :(
My clients aren't breaking any law by hiring my service. Prostitution isn't illegal in this country, although some aspects of the industry (solliciation, bawdy house, living of the avail, etc.) are. By hiring an independent sex worker to come over to their place, they aren't breaking any of those laws.

But yes, poverty is one among the many obstacles that people with disabilities have to live with. Not only when it comes to hiring a sex worker.
 

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I heard that the government pays sex workers to do the handicapped


Is this true :confused:

How is it legal


Are they nurses
yes its true. though the program is limited to veterans and those injured on the job. The former are funded through veterans affairs and the latter through wsib.
 

Big Rig

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yes its true. though the program is limited to veterans and those injured on the job. The former are funded through veterans affairs and the latter through wsib.
WSIB that is the government !

So if the sex worker comes to the house that is legal I guess :confused:

I wonder if they are nurses or RMT I mean they must have some qualifications if the government is to pay them as well they need to be trained for such special needs

Curious if it is just handjobs and a massage
 

Big Rig

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They aren't called sex workers they have a different name. we have discussed this at some of the sex worker meetings.

This is rather interesting, we are more advanced then I thought we were

Do you know what the qualifications are

I mean if they are handicapped .... you could do damage if you moved them the wrong way

Someone needs to tell the Archbishop and local Mullah to get this stopped !
 

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Then your opinion should be rather strong


There should be such benefits WTF a whole life with no sex

What a cruel and inhumane government policy

Your clientèle are the lucky ones as they got money, even though they have to break the law

A lot of these handicapped live in poverty as they have no capabilities to earn income

My neighbor is legally blind and in a wheelchair and she has no money to join Variety Village which is a gym for the disabled :(

I suppose massages are covered, which may be the only close human contact they ever get outside of their Parents if they have not abandoned them

I like to think some nice RMT will stretch the rules and give a penis massage


Wow, this post goes to show the "well meaning" often are the most misguided. To address the original issue no there is not such coverage extended to the disabled. As noted by some, it IS covered in Holland. They live up to the idea that sexuailty is part of health and extends to all. In this country we profess the same but don't aid in achieving it.

Now as for the rest of your post. Firstly, your neighbor does not represent everyone with a disability. Also a life with a disability does not ALWAYS equal a life without sex. While it is true that many see a wheelchair and assume there is a lack of function, this is not always the case. I also think that stereotype is perpetuated by what we see on T.V. ect. Rarely are the images of disability we see, sexualized or even desireable. In the minds of many sadly sex and disability are still mutually exclusive. The more the old images or ideas of what "disabled" is or means shifts, the more people's thinking will too. I come up against this all the time. It is frustrating and hurtful to know a whole part of you is being discounted or overlooked. It feels as though you aren't seen as a sensual, capable being. I have spent my life being the "good looking guy in the wheelchair." I've never put much stock into it because the words are never tied to intent. Women say it as though they are the first to notice and it'll somehow brighten my life. It's never "You're hot, I want you!" its more like...."Hey you know, you're really good looking hun way to go!" Always sounds like they expected me to be some drooling mass of flesh. Invariably though if they consider going further they tend to over think the disability and panic. "What if it's weird, what If he needs help, what if I hurt him, what if he sleeps in an iron lung?" Believe I'm baffled by the things otherwise rational people think. Anyway my point is they build up the unknown into something it simply isn't and doing so...they disengage out of fear. The ironic bit is, if I express anger or frustration at this I'm suddenly "the bitter disgruntled cripple" even if I'm in the right.

I remember when I was younger and was first noticed by an able bodied girl. I was happy because I really thought, it was a step. If I'm getting noticed at 16, surely by 20 the chair won't even matter anymore and I'll be taken on my merits. Sadly I encounter the same now as I did then. This part of why I started using services. I still really struggle with it. In a way I feel I've surrendered and done the thing people expect someone in my position would do. That old idea of "What else is he going to do/get?" In a way I feel I'm contributing to that thinking. Still, at a certain point I knew I had to do something.

As I've touched upon in my other posts for me this isn't a "hobby" It's not about getting off, or positions, and full menu's. Sure I enjoy the act but any SP that's been here would tell you there was a lot more to it for me. I have to also say, it was particularly frustrating and perplexing to see I faced some of the same judgement I found in public when calling agencies ect. I'm still puzzled at times with the logic here. Seeing a guy who wants to fuck you every which way after partying is ok but....a guy in a chair is out of your comfort zone? When I hear this from an agency I know exactly what I'm up against. Either the lady is stricken by what she THINKS she'll encounter, or she's previously seen a client who did not take as good care of himself as I do, and so it was bad and coloured her opinion of the rest. I for one am just a normal guy who simply can't walk. There's no railings on my bed, no tubes in me, no loss of sensation. I moisturize and expholiate, I used to model. I can't tie my shoes but figured out a way to shave my balls. Whatever you expect or imagine, I'm not it.

As far as your point about poverty, alot of factors contribute to that. Yes sadly many disabled people exsist at or below the poverty line. The government is fully aware of this. This is why their talk of empowering and engaging the potential of the disabled rings hollow with me. There is a misguided belief that we get tons an tons of money. The reality is, the support many of us are on provides an exsistance not a life. In cases like mine, if I take a job I actually stand to loose more than I'd gain. I do not have the experience to put me in a higher pay bracket. My schooling was interrupted by sugeries ect so I've yet to finish the degee that might net me enough to cover all my needs. Yet if I stay on the system my chair repairs are covered, and my rent subsidized. See, you can't take a job just for the sake of work, you always have to think.....will I be able to cover everything?

I know I got off topic slightly but as you may imagine its a multi facted issue. Also I figure, the more you know....
 

Big Rig

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Also a life with a disability does not ALWAYS equal a life without sex.
Not always but...

You are just in a wheelchair

What if you are blind and in a wheelchair or if you are a parapalegic or ....

My point is some are in the position I described and for them paid sex should be part of OHIP


There is an organization that deals with the handicapped and sex issues and is run by the handicapped ... forget its name ... are you aware of it

Also are you saying red is wrong when he stated :

yes its true. though the program is limited to veterans and those injured on the job. The former are funded through veterans affairs and the latter through wsib
 

irishguy0323

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Not always but...

You are just in a wheelchair

What if you are blind and in a wheelchair or if you are a parapalegic or ....

My point is some are in the position I described and for them paid sex should be part of OHIP


There is an organization that deals with the handicapped and sex issues and is run by the handicapped ... forget its name ... are you aware of it
Again...I was merely pointing out that having a disability does not always rule out sex. My post also highlights that often the issue is NOT the presence or level of sexual function but the fact the vast majority over look them in that context. I think if society starts to regard the disabled as sexual, sensual beings a lot would change. As for the blind, I know many that have found and sustained great intimacy, same with para and quadrapalegics. The success comes when people stop seeing the barriers or the limits and start seeing potential and.....the person!

Sadly one group that even more overlooked, even completely marginalized is the severely severly disabled. The documentary I once saw on the system in Holland impressed me because it was inclusive of them. It showed SP's visiting residential hospitals ect. with these clients it wasn't so much even about sex or release. It was touch, connection, intimate touch. Just acknowledging THAT part of the too. It was really one of the coolest things I've seen and many of the SP's said it was the best part of their month coming there.
 

Big Rig

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Again...I was merely pointing out that having a disability does not always rule out sex. My post also highlights that often the issue is NOT the presence or level of sexual function but the fact the vast majority over look them in that context. I think if society starts to regard the disabled as sexual, sensual beings a lot would change. As for the blind, I know many that have found and sustained great intimacy, same with para and quadrapalegics. The success comes when people stop seeing the barriers or the limits and start seeing potential and.....the person!

Sadly one group that even more overlooked, even completely marginalized is the severely severly disabled. The documentary I once saw on the system in Holland impressed me because it was inclusive of them. It showed SP's visiting residential hospitals ect. with these clients it wasn't so much even about sex or release. It was touch, connection, intimate touch. Just acknowledging THAT part of the too. It was really one of the coolest things I've seen and many of the SP's said it was the best part of their month coming there.
While we are at it how about the mentally handicapped


Also are you saying red is wrong when he stated :

yes its true. though the program is limited to veterans and those injured on the job. The former are funded through veterans affairs and the latter through wsib
 

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While we are at it how about the mentally handicapped


Also are you saying red is wrong when he stated :

yes its true. though the program is limited to veterans and those injured on the job. The former are funded through veterans affairs and the latter through wsib
I've never ever heard seen or read anything to that effect. I can not definitively say you're wrong. However, if such funding exsists it is extremely progressive. I have trouble seeing that two institutions which routinely fight tooth and nail on what they actually pay out would be that liberal. Also, I think you'd find news would travel quickly and the same right would be asked for by other disabled groups. As for the mentally disabled, they are among those I was referring to as severely disabled and in fact, in many ways the MOST sexually marginalized.
 

Big Rig

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I've never ever heard seen or read anything to that effect. I can not definitively say you're wrong. However, if such funding exsists it is extremely progressive. I have trouble seeing that two institutions which routinely fight tooth and nail on what they actually pay out would be that liberal. Also, I think you'd find news would travel quickly and the same right would be asked for by other disabled groups. As for the mentally disabled, they are among those I was referring to as severely disabled and in fact, in many ways the MOST sexually marginalized.
Riley Royal also stated



They aren't called sex workers they have a different name. we have discussed this at some of the sex worker meetings.


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Big Rig,

Duely noted man, relax. You keep coming back at me like you're trying to prove some point. If it exsists, then bravo! Still What I've said here speaks to the issue at large.
 

Big Rig

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Big Rig,

Duely noted man, relax. You keep coming back at me like you're trying to prove some point. If it exsists, then bravo! Still What I've said here speaks to the issue at large.
Not trying to win an argument just curious is all

But maybe I do need to relax with a nice massage

Any recommendations:D
 
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