Why is it we have Finite Resources for Health Care but Unlimited Money for War?

[WoodPeckr]

Kucinich writes an excellent piece that glaringly highlights the sick warped pathetic priorities held by our selfish, myopic Corporatist friends on the right! Thank you, Dennis.....

Kucinich: Why is it we have Finite Resources for Health Care but Unlimited Money for War?

http://kucinich.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=153461

Washington, Nov 6 -
Following a statement on the Floor of the House of Representative, Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) today made the following statement:

“Why is it we have finite resources for health care but unlimited money for war?

“The inequities in our economy are piling up: trillions for war, trillions for Wall Street and tens of billions for the insurance companies. Banks and other corporations are sitting on piles of cash of taxpayer’s money while firing workers, cutting pay and denying small businesses money to survive.

“People are losing their homes, their jobs, their health, their investments, their retirement security; yet there is unlimited money for war, Wall Street and insurance companies, but very little money for jobs on Main Street.

“Unlimited money to blow up things in Iraq and Afghanistan, and relatively little money to build things in the US.

“The Administration may soon bring to Congress a request for an additional $50 billion for war. I can tell you that a Democratic version of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan is no more acceptable than a Republican version of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

“Trillions for war and Wall Street, billions for insurance companies... When we were promised change, we weren’t thinking that we give a dollar and get back two cents.”

 

[luckyjackson]

Kucinich would make a great Pres...too bad he's too short to get elected.

 

[Gyaos]

Kucinich would make a great Pres...too bad he's too short to get elected.

His wife is too tall. Yes, he says it like it is. But when he became mayor of Cleveland, that city tanked. So I don't get it, he talks a terrific talk and is right, but then no one votes for him.
Money just doesn't want to go to those who want to make it. Only to those who loose too much of it, then make too much of it. I want to be the latter.....make too much of it.

I will say that if Obama wants $50 Billion for Iraq, he should not be re-elected. He said he was going to end it. No change Obamanomics. Michelle Obama must be a real bitch when she's angry.

Gyaos Baltar.

 

[OddSox]

According to the list at http://www.visualeconomics.com/how-countries-spend-their-money/ the US spends 19.3% of its budget on military, and 19.3% on health care.

Some of the other countries are interesting:

Iran at 21.74% military vs 11.5% health.
Pakistan at 23.14% vs 1.4%

The UAE reportedly spends over 45% of its budget on military, and 8.7% on health...

 

[Gyaos]

The UAE reportedly spends over 45% of its budget on military, and 8.7% on health...

LOL. What military? They mean the camel squad? Visual economics source comes from a gunball machine, their numbers are all wrong. Completely wrong. They know diddly.

Gyaos.

 

[WoodPeckr]

What's so ironic is how GOPers claim to be christians while supporting policies of greed?!??!?!?! Unlimited money for Corporate interests while letting folks and children die by the thousands yearly for lack of Healthcare!

Makes you wonder what Jesus would have to say to these GOP Pharisee/christian Hypocrites!...

 

[OddSox]

LOL. What military? They mean the camel squad? Visual economics source comes from a gunball machine, their numbers are all wrong. Completely wrong. They know diddly.

Gyaos.

Perhaps. But consider the measurement they're using - percentage of gov't budget. UAE has no government to speak of - they don't need one. It is entirely plausible that the camel squad takes up 45% of their budget...

 

[Gyaos]

Their Dubai city in the middle of nowhere money laundering scheme is the 45%. A farce. Never trust anyone with a table cloth on their head.

Gyaos.

 

[mb12ca]

Kucinich writes an excellent piece that glaringly highlights the sick warped pathetic priorities held by our selfish, myopic Corporatist friends on the right! Thank you, Dennis.....

Kucinich: Why is it we have Finite Resources for Health Care but Unlimited Money for War?

http://kucinich.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=153461

Washington, Nov 6 -
Following a statement on the Floor of the House of Representative, Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) today made the following statement:

“Why is it we have finite resources for health care but unlimited money for war?

“The inequities in our economy are piling up: trillions for war, trillions for Wall Street and tens of billions for the insurance companies. Banks and other corporations are sitting on piles of cash of taxpayer’s money while firing workers, cutting pay and denying small businesses money to survive.

“People are losing their homes, their jobs, their health, their investments, their retirement security; yet there is unlimited money for war, Wall Street and insurance companies, but very little money for jobs on Main Street.

“Unlimited money to blow up things in Iraq and Afghanistan, and relatively little money to build things in the US.

“The Administration may soon bring to Congress a request for an additional $50 billion for war. I can tell you that a Democratic version of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan is no more acceptable than a Republican version of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

“Trillions for war and Wall Street, billions for insurance companies... When we were promised change, we weren’t thinking that we give a dollar and get back two cents.”

I actually agree with you on this one.

 

[MarkII]

Rhetoric aside, The original question posed in this thread is a very good one. We keep hearing of mis-management at EHealth and OLG. Tthat would have alone made a substantial contribution to health-care in Ontario alone.

Makes me wonder how many contracts in the military are questionable? Although they seem to take forever in making up their "collective" minds. The aging Seaking's are a good example of that.

Learned one thing a long time ago. The only reason the sun comes up every morning is NO government is involved.

 

[Aardvark154]

From a Canadian perspective not only is this rather more open, both legally as well as philosophically, but further is it even true when the entire regular force infantry will fit into Maple Leaf Garden with room to spare.

From a U.S. perspective, it is even more straight forward. National Defence is clearly spelled in the U.S. Constiution, even in the preamble, as a Federal issue. However, nowhere, in the U.S. Constitution is health care mentioned, and the only way it can be sandwiched into being a Federal issue is through the Commerce Clause and the 14th Amendment. To put it mildly a bit of a strain.

 

[someone]

From a Canadian perspective it is a bit more open, both legally as well as philosophically.

From a U.S. perspective, however, it is much more straight forward. National Defence is clearly spelled out even in the preamble of the U.S. Constitution as a Federal issue. However, nowhere, in the Constitution is health care mentioned, and the only way it can be sandwiched into being a Federal issue is through the Commerce Clause and the 14th Amendment. To put it mildly a bit of a strain.

Under section 91 (7) of the BNA act, the military is clearly a federal area of responsibility. That is why if you are driving a military vehicle (for example) you don’t need a civilian driver licence (although when I was in the military, we found that very few civilian cops knew this).

Under 92 (7) health care is clearly provincial. However, nothing stops the federal government from using money to get provinces to adopt specific health care policies.

 

[Aardvark154]

Under section 91 (7) of the BNA act, the military is clearly a federal area of responsibility. That is why if you are driving a military vehicle (for example) you don’t need a civilian driver licence (although when I was in the military, we found that very few civilian cops new this).

Under 92 (7) health care is clearly provincial. However, nothing stops the federal government from using money to get provinces to adopt specific health care policies.

Thank you for making my point even more forcefully.

 

[blackrock13]

.... because the world hates the US, for whatever legit or make believe reason, and is out to get them from all corners of the globe, or maybe because the MIC is in every corner of the Union and to go against it means losses of jobs or votes, or both.

Not too hard to figure.

 

[WoodPeckr]

.... because the world hates the US, for whatever legit or make believe reason, and is out to get them from all corners of the globe, or maybe because the MIC is in every corner of the Union and to go against it means losses of jobs or votes, or both.

Not too hard to figure.

Neocons (the Fucking Crazies as Colin Powell called them) and the MIC have always had an incestuous symbiotic relationship where they sickly feed off each other. These two and policies they promote, are the main reason so many countries hate the USA....

 

[blackrock13]

Neocons (the Fucking Crazies as Colin Powell called them) and the MIC have always had an incestuous symbiotic relationship where they sickly feed off each other. These two and policies they promote, are the main reason so many countries hate the USA....

Nah, it's been that way since Dwight D., and enough of both administrations have been through the Oval Office that both can lay claim to that plan's success.

 

[danmand]

Nah, it's been that way since Dwight D., and enough of both administrations have been through the Oval Office that both can lay claim to that plan's success.

It is very naive to expect that the strategies of a great power will change because
another president is elected.

henry Kissinger once remarked that the foreign policies of Russia had not changes
from the Tsar to the soviet union.

 

[blackrock13]

It is very naive to expect that the strategies of a great power will change because
another president is elected.

henry Kissinger once remarked that the foreign policies of Russia had not changes
from the Tsar to the soviet union.

It's not a question of naivety, I don't expect that practice to change at all, as it's been a part of the fabric of The Halls of Power way too long.

 

[danmand]

It's not a question of naivety, I don't expect that practice to change at all, as it's been a part of the fabric of The Halls of Power way too long.

I was agreeing with you.

 

[blackrock13]

I was agreeing with you.

I know. I'm just answering the next question from the usual suspects in advance.